Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[jay]

As a west coast guy I use Trojan IND when I get a chance to sell industrial 
batteries.  They are made here in cali which makes warranty ( none to date) and 
delivery faster/easier.  

As to Rolls.  In the past warranty was a complete cluster #@% which is why I 
haven’t used them. Now its much better, and Steve H is doing a good job.

jay

peltz power


> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Tump  wrote:
> 
> The 5000 series are what we always recommend and install for my off grid 
> clients. 2 volt cells are the only way we go. Despite what folks believe, we 
> find it easier to handle the KS series then the L16.
> We have been using them for many years and as with ANY manu, they have and 
> had issues BUT.. we feel w/ proper system sizing, education of the client 
> & record keeping we have yet to have an issue w/ warrantee claims. That being 
> said we have had a long relationship W/Jamie Surrette and his supplier, Roy 
> Early and his crew at RAE Battery,  one of the best suppliers in our 27+ 
> years.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wrenches,
>> 
>> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra 
>> $$$?
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback,
>> Kris
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> Kris Schmid
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>> 864 Clam Falls Trail
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Kirk]

Actually I've had more early failures with their 2 volt S-series cells then the 
T12-250. But I now loath series-parallel strings, so I still put up with the 
rare 2 volt failure. 

Kirk Herander
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Howie Michaelson  wrote:
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> As a caveat, I would add that we do not use their T12250 batteries. For some 
> reason, they have not been nearly as reliable as any of their other batteries 
> we have used.
> Howie
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>> On Oct 22, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kristopher Schmid"  wrote:
>> Hi Wrenches,
>> 
>> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra 
>> $$$?
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback,
>> Kris
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[frenergy]

I have a 48 V pack of 2KS33P's  and have installed many of their batts for my 
customers.  You kind of need to qualify which series of batteries (4000, 
4500,5000) of theirs you are asking about.  If you're trying to do more than 
~1000 ahrs and need to avoid more than 2 strings, you'll be looking at their 
5000 series batteries.  The 5000's have a better warranty, cost more. last 
longer, though they seem to drop in voltage, under load a bit more than say 3 
strings of L-16s of the same capacity (comments welcome)...this can be an issue 
in some applications.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kristopher Schmid 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:15 AM
  Subject: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries


  Hi Wrenches,


  Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra $$$?


  Thanks for the feedback,

  Kris


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Kristopher Schmid]

Thanks everyone!

Your feedback is highly valued and appreciated.

Kris

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Howie Michaelson 
wrote:

> We use Rolls almost exclusively. We've had occasional failures, but in
> general they are very rugged, and stand up to a great deal of abuse
> (speaking from the perspective of being one of my own worst clients that
> way).
> Howie
>
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> On Oct 22, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kristopher Schmid" 
> wrote:
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>> Hi Wrenches,
>>
>> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra
>> $$$?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback,
>> Kris
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[penobscotsolar]

As with Tump, we have been using the KS series for over 20 years with
little issue. My own particular caveat is that we have now started to use
Crown as well and are finding them as rugged, easier to move (metal cases
with handles), with built in water miser caps, and a better warranty, and
with great success. I also echo Tumps sentiments with Roy at RAE. We have
been buying from him since our inception in 1988.

Daryl



> The 5000 series are what we always recommend and install for my off grid
> clients. 2 volt cells are the only way we go. Despite what folks believe,
> we find it easier to handle the KS series then the L16.
> We have been using them for many years and as with ANY manu, they have and
> had issues BUT.. we feel w/ proper system sizing, education of the
> client & record keeping we have yet to have an issue w/ warrantee claims.
> That being said we have had a long relationship W/Jamie Surrette and his
> supplier, Roy Early and his crew at RAE Battery,  one of the best
> suppliers in our 27+ years.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
>> Hi Wrenches,
>>
>> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the
>> extra $$$?
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback,
>> Kris
>>
>> --
>> Shine On!
>>
>> Kris Schmid
>> Legacy Solar, LLC
>> 864 Clam Falls Trail
>> Frederic, WI 54837
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Tump]

The 5000 series are what we always recommend and install for my off grid 
clients. 2 volt cells are the only way we go. Despite what folks believe, we 
find it easier to handle the KS series then the L16.
We have been using them for many years and as with ANY manu, they have and had 
issues BUT.. we feel w/ proper system sizing, education of the client & 
record keeping we have yet to have an issue w/ warrantee claims. That being 
said we have had a long relationship W/Jamie Surrette and his supplier, Roy 
Early and his crew at RAE Battery,  one of the best suppliers in our 27+ years.
On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

> Hi Wrenches,
> 
> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra $$$?
> 
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Kris
> 
> -- 
> Shine On!
> 
> Kris Schmid
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Howie Michaelson]

As a caveat, I would add that we do not use their T12250 batteries. For
some reason, they have not been nearly as reliable as any of their other
batteries we have used.
Howie

Howie Michaelson
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On Oct 22, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kristopher Schmid" 
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> Hi Wrenches,
>
> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra
> $$$?
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Kris
>
> --
> Shine On!
>
> Kris Schmid
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Howie Michaelson]

We use Rolls almost exclusively. We've had occasional failures, but in
general they are very rugged, and stand up to a great deal of abuse
(speaking from the perspective of being one of my own worst clients that
way).
Howie

Howie Michaelson
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On Oct 22, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kristopher Schmid" 
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> Hi Wrenches,
>
> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra
> $$$?
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Kris
>
> --
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Jerry Shafer]

Yes i have and i have been happy performance vs cost
Jerry
On Oct 22, 2015 5:15 AM, "Kristopher Schmid"  wrote:

> Hi Wrenches,
>
> Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra
> $$$?
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Kris
>
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[toddcory]

i have a set of their fc420's flooded, lead calcium... which is (imo) the 
perfect battery for grid tie with battery backup. i add water every other year, 
and equalize every 6 months. these are from 2008 and still going strong.
 
another system i have has a 1986 vintage set (made by "globe battery") and they 
are still working fine too, so maybe this is more about the specific battery 
chemistry than manufacturer?
 
todd
 
 
 


On Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:15am, "Kristopher Schmid" 
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Hi Wrenches,

Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra $$$?

Thanks for the feedback,Kris





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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Christopher Warfel]

They have been reliable. I think they are worth it.

Chris

On 10/22/2015 11:15 AM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them? Worth the 
extra $$$?


Thanks for the feedback,
Kris

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[RE-wrenches] Rolls batteries

[Kristopher Schmid]

Hi Wrenches,

Anyone using Rolls Surrette batteries?  Happy with them?  Worth the extra
$$$?

Thanks for the feedback,
Kris

-- 
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE
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