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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld Warranty Claims Through Sunpower

2024-01-10 Thread Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches

Wrenches,

A colleague is inquiring about how to proceed with Solarworld warranty
claims after its 2018 acquisition of the Solarworld brand.  If anyone can
provide successes or failures along those lines I would appreciate being
able to share that info with my colleague.  If I am able to determine more
detail elsewhere and anyone on this list would like to have that info
shared with them please let me know off-list.

Sincerely,
Sam

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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld 260W mono

2024-01-03 Thread Chris Daum via RE-wrenches

Hi folks:
 
I have a fellow looking for six of the Solarworld 260s.  If you got ‘em and 
wish to part with them, please contact me off list.
 
Happy new year!
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309 or 4321
406-777-4309 fax
www.oasismontana.com   
 
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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld modules sought

2023-11-01 Thread Chris Daum via RE-wrenches

Dear people:
 
I’ve got a fella looking for three each of the Sunmodule Plus 260 panels or 
Solarworld SW 260 mono panels.  Got anything?  I suspect used would be fine.  
Please feel free to contact me off list.
 
Thanks and stay warm!
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309 or 4321
406-777-4309 fax
www.oasismontana.com   
 
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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld Warranty

2022-07-11 Thread Rich Nicol via RE-wrenches

Hello Wrenches

Does anybody have a contact for whoever the 3rd party is that supposedly
will honor Solarworld warranties?  Also, have any of you pursued warranty
assistance due to issues with the Amphenol connectors (melting/arc faults)

I had thought the issue was only with Amphenol to MC4 connections but it
seems that Amphenol to Amphenol connections are also problematic. 

 

Thank You!
Rich

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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld modules, 280-285W -- Got any?

2022-03-04 Thread chris

Hi folks:
 
I have a fellow looking for four of the SW280s or preferably 285s.  Does anyone 
have any available?  If so, please contact me off list.  Thanks!
 
TGIF,
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309
406-777-4309 fax
  www.oasismontana.com 
 
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld Sunmodule Plus

2020-08-24 Thread Jason Szumlanski

Since I'm not finding anything, I'd like to open this up to any 60-cell
module with a 33mm frame depth, preferable BoW.


On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:10 AM Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> If anyone has a module around with black frame, white backsheet, I have a
> client looking for one to replace a shattered module. Optimizer system.
> Watt rating not critical.
>
> Please contact me off list.
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>
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> 
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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld Sunmodule Plus

2020-08-20 Thread Jason Szumlanski

If anyone has a module around with black frame, white backsheet, I have a
client looking for one to replace a shattered module. Optimizer system.
Watt rating not critical.

Please contact me off list.



*Jason Szumlanski*
Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld warranty coverage

2020-05-09 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf

Hi all,

Can someone please remind me what, if any, is the warranty coverage of SW
mods and from whom?

Mahalo,
marco
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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld

2019-12-19 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf

Aloha all,

 

Does anyone know who or what, if anyone, is covering the warranties of all
those many thousands of SolarWorld mods installed far and wide?

 

Thanks,

marco

 

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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld warranty

2019-08-21 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf

Hello all,

Is there any entity that is covering Solarworld warranties?

Thanks,
marco
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld SW 175

2018-05-03 Thread Rick Brown

Looks like GenPro Energy Solutions will be offering something comparable in 
June. If someone has a resource for used SW175s I’d still be interested.

Thanks,

rick brown




> On May 3, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Rick Brown  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking for a replacement for a single SW175. Anyone have a source for a new 
> or used one? I’ve looked through the usual channels.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> rick brown
> SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC
> Electrical & Solar Contracting Services
> www.SolShineEnergyAlternatives.com 
> 
> Check, Virginia 24072
> 540.808.9502
> 
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> VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762
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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld SW 175

2018-05-03 Thread Rick Brown

Looking for a replacement for a single SW175. Anyone have a source for a new or 
used one? I’ve looked through the usual channels.

Thanks!

rick brown
SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC
Electrical & Solar Contracting Services
www.SolShineEnergyAlternatives.com
Check, Virginia 24072
540.808.9502

VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660
VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762
VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer  
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld Sun Clips

2017-05-24 Thread Dana

Any suggestion on where I might find these little jewels Please  respond off 
line.

 



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P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jay
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:24 AM
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

 

Solar World Sun Clips are what I would use. 

 

Jay

Peltz power. 

 

 


On May 24, 2017, at 6:28 AM, AE Solar <autonomousenerg...@gmail.com 
<mailto:autonomousenerg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

With Solarworld/SnapNRack we run wires in the rail and use clips on the long 
edge of the frame when needed. SnapNRack has a clip that fits in the upper rail 
groove to hold wires down into it. The snap n rack part you are referencing (I 
think they call it 'box frame adapter') is good if you want to attach squirrel 
netting to the short edge of the panels, but it's bulky and expensive. I don't 
think it will do much for attaching wire clips.

Adam

 

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:11 AM Dana <d...@solarwork.com 
<mailto:d...@solarwork.com> > wrote:

I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array Technologies 
dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].

The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short end 
frame is this little kind of “I” beam that does not allow for any wire clips. 

I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of drilling 
the module frame?

SnapnRack has a ¾” thick clamp that creates a 7/8” min gap between the module 
columns that is rather unsightly.

Suggestions?

 



Dana Orzel   Great Solar Works, Inc. 

208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com 
<mailto:d...@solarwork.com> 

Idaho Contractor - # 028765  Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.biz 
<http://www.solarwork.biz> 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

2017-05-24 Thread Jay

Solar World Sun Clips are what I would use. 

Jay
Peltz power. 



> On May 24, 2017, at 6:28 AM, AE Solar  wrote:
> 
> With Solarworld/SnapNRack we run wires in the rail and use clips on the long 
> edge of the frame when needed. SnapNRack has a clip that fits in the upper 
> rail groove to hold wires down into it. The snap n rack part you are 
> referencing (I think they call it 'box frame adapter') is good if you want to 
> attach squirrel netting to the short edge of the panels, but it's bulky and 
> expensive. I don't think it will do much for attaching wire clips.
> Adam
> 
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:11 AM Dana  wrote:
>> I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array 
>> Technologies dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].
>> 
>> The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short end 
>> frame is this little kind of “I” beam that does not allow for any wire clips.
>> 
>> I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of 
>> drilling the module frame?
>> 
>> SnapnRack has a ¾” thick clamp that creates a 7/8” min gap between the 
>> module columns that is rather unsightly.
>> 
>> Suggestions?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dana Orzel   Great Solar Works, Inc.
>> 
>> 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>> 
>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765  Idaho PV # 028374
>> 
>> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.biz
>> 
>> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" 
>> 
>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

2017-05-24 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar


I think my "wattsuns" look fine with just wire ties and not really any
special effort. It does sound nice to go in the rail.
I can put a pix in here later when I get home if you ask? Not worried
about squirrels here but I would like to get some of the metal bird
protector (often seen at airports) to keep them from sitting up top and
doing their business. Anyone know who has it?

--Dave

> With Solarworld/SnapNRack we run wires in the rail and use clips on the
> long edge of the frame when needed. SnapNRack has a clip that fits in the
> upper rail groove to hold wires down into it. The snap n rack part you are
> referencing (I think they call it 'box frame adapter') is good if you want
> to attach squirrel netting to the short edge of the panels, but it's bulky
> and expensive. I don't think it will do much for attaching wire clips.
> Adam
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:11 AM Dana  wrote:
>
>> I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array
>> Technologies dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].
>>
>> The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short
>> end frame is this little kind of âIâ beam that does not allow for
>> any wire
>> clips.
>>
>> I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of
>> drilling the module frame?
>>
>> SnapnRack has a Â¾â thick clamp that creates a 7/8â min gap between
>> the
>> module columns that is rather unsightly.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Dana Orzel   Great Solar Works, Inc.
>>
>> *208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>> *
>>
>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765  Idaho PV # 028374
>>
>> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.biz
>>
>> *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  *
>>
>> *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

2017-05-24 Thread AE Solar

With Solarworld/SnapNRack we run wires in the rail and use clips on the
long edge of the frame when needed. SnapNRack has a clip that fits in the
upper rail groove to hold wires down into it. The snap n rack part you are
referencing (I think they call it 'box frame adapter') is good if you want
to attach squirrel netting to the short edge of the panels, but it's bulky
and expensive. I don't think it will do much for attaching wire clips.
Adam

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:11 AM Dana  wrote:

> I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array
> Technologies dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].
>
> The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short
> end frame is this little kind of “I” beam that does not allow for any wire
> clips.
>
> I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of
> drilling the module frame?
>
> SnapnRack has a ¾” thick clamp that creates a 7/8” min gap between the
> module columns that is rather unsightly.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

2017-05-24 Thread Kristopher Schmid

I use "fir tree" zip ties that will pop into the ground holes in the frame.

On May 24, 2017 8:11 AM, "Dana"  wrote:

> I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array
> Technologies dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].
>
> The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short
> end frame is this little kind of “I” beam that does not allow for any wire
> clips.
>
> I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of
> drilling the module frame?
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> SnapnRack has a ¾” thick clamp that creates a 7/8” min gap between the
> module columns that is rather unsightly.
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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld 285 watt end frames

2017-05-24 Thread Dana

I am installing SolarWorld 285 w modules for our new home on Array
Technologies dual axis trackers [we are in a canyon].

The side rails of the frames are typical with a flange however the short end
frame is this little kind of I beam that does not allow for any wire
clips. 

I am wondering what other folks have done in this situation, short of
drilling the module frame?

SnapnRack has a ¾ thick clamp that creates a 7/8 min gap between the
module columns that is rather unsightly.

Suggestions?

 



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-26 Thread Jason Szumlanski

I was fortunate enough to smell a rat and avoid the ASP fraudulent UL label
fiasco, and as a matter of policy I refuse to buy anything from anyone but
an established and respected distributor at a price that is realistic and
sustainable. Closeouts on discontinued wattages from reputable dealers and
bulk purchases from the manufacturer are reasonable risks, but that's as
far as I would go.

Incidentally, I'm servicing an Eaton/ASP PV250 inverter tomorrow that has
failed (again). The whole mess is a lesson to avoid "too good to be true"
prices. This poor system owner can't get anyone to help him...
understandably. I always tell consumers the ASP story to scare them
straight about low prices.

Jason Szumlanski

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Drake  wrote:

> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does anyone
> know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted distributor for
> bargain Solarworld modules?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drake
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-26 Thread Jerry Shafer

Wrenches
Sunpower had a theft and this is close to what l was told was going on
selling them, since Sunpower has the sn# there is no warranty with them
either.
Just a FYI
On Jan 26, 2016 1:02 PM, "Jason Szumlanski" <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> I was fortunate enough to smell a rat and avoid the ASP fraudulent UL
> label fiasco, and as a matter of policy I refuse to buy anything from
> anyone but an established and respected distributor at a price that is
> realistic and sustainable. Closeouts on discontinued wattages from
> reputable dealers and bulk purchases from the manufacturer are reasonable
> risks, but that's as far as I would go.
>
> Incidentally, I'm servicing an Eaton/ASP PV250 inverter tomorrow that has
> failed (again). The whole mess is a lesson to avoid "too good to be true"
> prices. This poor system owner can't get anyone to help him...
> understandably. I always tell consumers the ASP story to scare them
> straight about low prices.
>
>
> Jason Szumlanski
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Drake <
> drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> wrote:
>
>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does anyone
>> know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted distributor for
>> bargain Solarworld modules?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Drake
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-22 Thread Jay

Hi guys. 

Look not all of us are getting these emails. 

So please share what's going on ok

And my opinion is that if these are published emails with prices you can share 
them, especially if you think they are bogus parts. 

Jay

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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:33 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
> 
> Can they really get away with selling fake Solarworld modules? Is there no
> way to verify there manufacturer? It would seem that Solarworld would want
> to bust a company selling modules labeled with there name that weren't
> theirs.
> 
> If they are old stock at cheap prices, they might be good for some
> systems. If they are fake, then there would be no warranty and could
> likely have other issues.
> 
> Has anyone actually seen knock off modules or seen reliable information
> that documents their existence?
> 
>> What I've seen lately in my Spam box, advertised at the usual ridiculous
>> price, is for low wattage Solarworld modules.  We currently are
>> installing 285 and 290 watt models, and what was being offered were 260
>> and under.  Either they're knock offs, or someone is moving some really
>> old stock.
>> This would be a clever way for Chinese manufacturing to circumvent the
>> tariff I suppose.
>> 
>> R.Ray Walters
>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Solar Design Engineer
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2016 8:46 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>>> So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't
>>> encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What is
>>> the
>>> evidence that this is gong on?
>>> 
>>> I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt cheaper
>>> than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't know the
>>> companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They have
>>> definitely
>>> been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest end of the Chinese
>>> imports. When something seems too good to be true, it usually isn't.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
 Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
 You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, make
 the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
 
 I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar
 World
 and their predecessors!
 
 Later,
 Bob
 
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
> wrote:
> 
> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer
>> 
>> wrote:
>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
>> Jerry
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
>>>  wrote:
>>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does
>>> anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted
>>> distributor for bargain Solarworld modules?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-22 Thread Tom Duffy

Hi All

Solarworld themselves have offered us low pricing on containers of 250 or 260 
German manufactured modules, but no pricing like 30 cents a watt.

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Hi guys. 

Look not all of us are getting these emails. 

So please share what's going on ok

And my opinion is that if these are published emails with prices you can share 
them, especially if you think they are bogus parts. 

Jay

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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:33 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
> 
> Can they really get away with selling fake Solarworld modules? Is 
> there no way to verify there manufacturer? It would seem that 
> Solarworld would want to bust a company selling modules labeled with 
> there name that weren't theirs.
> 
> If they are old stock at cheap prices, they might be good for some 
> systems. If they are fake, then there would be no warranty and could 
> likely have other issues.
> 
> Has anyone actually seen knock off modules or seen reliable 
> information that documents their existence?
> 
>> What I've seen lately in my Spam box, advertised at the usual 
>> ridiculous price, is for low wattage Solarworld modules.  We 
>> currently are installing 285 and 290 watt models, and what was being 
>> offered were 260 and under.  Either they're knock offs, or someone is 
>> moving some really old stock.
>> This would be a clever way for Chinese manufacturing to circumvent 
>> the tariff I suppose.
>> 
>> R.Ray Walters
>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Solar Design Engineer
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2016 8:46 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>>> So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't 
>>> encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What 
>>> is the evidence that this is gong on?
>>> 
>>> I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt 
>>> cheaper than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't 
>>> know the companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They 
>>> have definitely been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest 
>>> end of the Chinese imports. When something seems too good to be 
>>> true, it usually isn't.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>>> Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
>>>> You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, 
>>>> make the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
>>>> 
>>>> I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar 
>>>> World and their predecessors!
>>>> 
>>>> Later,
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
>>>>> <autonomousenerg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer 
>>>>>> <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory Jerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
>>>>>>> <drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. 
>>>>>>> Does anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a 
>>>>>>> truste

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-21 Thread RE Ellison

Good morning,

Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, make the 
label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?

I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar World and 
their predecessors!

Later,
Bob

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar  wrote:
> 
> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer  
>> wrote:
>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
>> Jerry
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"  
>>> wrote:
>>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does anyone 
>>> know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted distributor for 
>>> bargain Solarworld modules?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-21 Thread drake . chamberlin

So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't
encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What is the
evidence that this is gong on?

I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt cheaper
than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't know the
companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They have definitely
been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest end of the Chinese
imports. When something seems too good to be true, it usually isn't.

Thanks,

Drake

Good morning,
>
> Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
> You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, make
> the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
>
> I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar World
> and their predecessors!
>
> Later,
> Bob
>
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer 
>>> wrote:
>>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
>>> Jerry
>>>
 On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
  wrote:
 A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does
 anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted
 distributor for bargain Solarworld modules?

 Thanks,

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-21 Thread drake . chamberlin

Can they really get away with selling fake Solarworld modules? Is there no
way to verify there manufacturer? It would seem that Solarworld would want
to bust a company selling modules labeled with there name that weren't
theirs.

If they are old stock at cheap prices, they might be good for some
systems. If they are fake, then there would be no warranty and could
likely have other issues.

Has anyone actually seen knock off modules or seen reliable information
that documents their existence?

> What I've seen lately in my Spam box, advertised at the usual ridiculous
> price, is for low wattage Solarworld modules.  We currently are
> installing 285 and 290 watt models, and what was being offered were 260
> and under.  Either they're knock offs, or someone is moving some really
> old stock.
> This would be a clever way for Chinese manufacturing to circumvent the
> tariff I suppose.
>
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 1/21/2016 8:46 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>> So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't
>> encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What is
>> the
>> evidence that this is gong on?
>>
>> I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt cheaper
>> than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't know the
>> companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They have
>> definitely
>> been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest end of the Chinese
>> imports. When something seems too good to be true, it usually isn't.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Drake
>>
>> Good morning,
>>> Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
>>> You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, make
>>> the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
>>>
>>> I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar
>>> World
>>> and their predecessors!
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Bob
>>>
 On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
 wrote:

 What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?

> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer
> 
> wrote:
> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
> Jerry
>
>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
>>  wrote:
>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does
>> anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted
>> distributor for bargain Solarworld modules?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-20 Thread Allan Sindelar


  
  
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On 1/20/2016 5:59 PM, AE Solar wrote:

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

2016-01-20 Thread AE Solar

What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer 
wrote:

> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
> Jerry
> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"  >
> wrote:
>
>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does anyone
>> know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted distributor for
>> bargain Solarworld modules?
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld diodes

2014-03-01 Thread Exeltech

Ron... 
 
Bill's comments below are all absolutely excellent and spot-on - particularly 
his mention about the UL1703 certification.
 
That said .. if you decide to proceed with the repair, I'd like to add a 
several additional details to the process:
 
1. Ensure the j-box you purchase is certified by a NRTL as a recognized 
component for use on PV.  Each lab has its own markings to indicate a 
recognized component.  Cheap non-recognized parts may warp or fall apart in 
time.
 
2. Install the diode in the correct orientation relative to the PV polarity. 
The diode should be reverse-biased (not conducting) during unshaded operation 
of the PV module.
 
3. The diode current rating Bill mentions below is a *minimum*.  If you have a 
choice between diodes that meet this minimum, or diodes that are rated [say] 
25-50% more current than the minimum, opt for the higher-current part.  I've 
seen diodes in j-boxes that were hot enough to boil water (literally) after 
conducting for a period of time.  J-boxes are not conducive to heat dissipation.
 
4. Make all connections to the diode as solid as possible to minimize the 
contact resistance.  Oxidation in poor connections will cause the contact 
points to overheat, leading to eventual failure of first the connection .. and 
then the diode and possibly the other components, including the j-box.
 
5. Suggestion #5 has two parts:  a) Use silicone *adhesive* to attach the 
junction box to the module.  Silicone adhesive is NOT silicone caulk nor 
silicone sealant.  b) Only use a silicon adhesive that's approved for use on 
PV.  Anything less will not stay adhered to the PV backsheet for the life of 
the PV.  Dow-Corning part numbers 737 or 804 are suitable, as are others.  The 
primary difference between the 737 and 804 is the cure time.  804 is faster (~8 
hrs vs. 24 hrs), but cost a bit more $ than the 737 last time I bought some.
 
6. Ensure PV backsheet and the mating surface of the j-box are clean and free 
of any oil (i.e. from your skin, etc.).  Denatured 90%+ alcohol and Kim-wipes 
(or similar) can be used to prep both surfaces.  Dow and others also sell a 
primer that can be used for this purpose.
 
7. Apply two long pieces of tape to the box lid in a plus pattern *before* 
you affix the j-box to the PV.  This tape will be used later.  Next, apply 
adhesive to the j-box flange evenly around the entire perimeter.  No gaps or 
thin spots.  Press the j-box down evenly, so you get equal amounts of adhesive 
squeezed out around the entire perimeter of the box.  Feed the PV connection 
tabs up through the opening in the j-box in the process.  Finally, use the tape 
to secure the box in place while the adhesive cures.  Do not make any internal 
connections at this time.
 
8. After the adhesive has cured .. make all of the connections.  Soldered 
connections (done properly) are superior to crimped or compressive connections. 
 Some j-boxes use compressive connections only.  Do your best with what you 
have.
 
 
Test and make sure everything is working properly.  If so .. congratulations.
 
 
 
Dan
 

On Sat, 3/1/14, Bill Hoffer suneng...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld diodes
To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Date: Saturday, March 1, 2014, 2:20 PM
 
Ron
 
Technically removing the junction box has voided the warranty and the UL 
listing of the module,field modification is not covered by the manual.  
Solarworld probably will not accept a warranty claim after the customer has 
done that.  Considering that diode failure is relatively common ( Schottkey 
diodes are susceptible to surge damage from lightning and near strikes among 
others), I am disappointing that Solarworld would encapsulate diodes that 
cannot be field repairable, unless they are using the newer surge resistant 
switching diodes that have a better chance of a 30 year life ( and cost 10X 
cheap schottkey didoes).  

That being said and assuming this is an off grid application that is under the 
AHJ's radar,  there are replacement junction boxes available to salavage the 
situation, just make sure you check the diode specs and that they exceed the 
Solarworld diode specs ( I could not find it for that module) .  Should be UL 
listed for the module Max Voltage rating , beware Chinese knockoffs, buy from a 
reliable source!   Rough rule of Thumb, Diode needs to be rated at the max 
breaker size current + 25 - 50%  to account for temperature and current derate. 
 ST has a great application note AN3432 if you want to geek out on the 
details  Look for a solderless clamping terminals or at least one that is 
spaced off the back of the module to make sure that you do not damage the back 
sheet when soldering, this connection is critical and a source of future 
failures in modules from over-heated poor solders.  A Larger Junction box is 
better for heat dissipation with the diode
 away from the back of the module and to cover

[RE-wrenches] Solarworld SW 165/175 needed

2013-04-24 Thread Bruce

Does anyone know where I might find a Solarworld 165 or 175 mono 
module?  We have to replace one that got damaged.


Thanks!

Bruce Leininger

PV System Designer

GRID Alternatives

1171 Ocean Avenue, Suite 200,

Oakland, CA 94608

Cell 415.571.1764

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their basic requirements of health, education, and economic opportunity 
by providing renewable energy and energy efficiency services, equipment, 
and training. GRID Alternatives works collaboratively with communities 
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[RE-wrenches] Solarworld SW 165/175 mono needed

2013-04-24 Thread Bruce

Does anyone know where I might find a Solarworld 165 or 175 mono 
module?  We have to replace one that got damaged.


Thanks!

Bruce Leininger

PV System Designer

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1171 Ocean Avenue, Suite 200,

Oakland, CA 94608

Cell 415.571.1764

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld SW 165/175 needed

2013-04-24 Thread Ray Walters


HA, HA, HA.  you must be joking
Sorry Bruce, just we've been in this situation many times over the past 
few years; It's been a real pain.  I actually think the best thing might 
be to pull some 175s out of service on a system upgrade for one customer 
in order to use them for other customers' systems.  We found a few 
modules that were close dimensionally and performance wise, but they 
were not exact. (Conergy 180 worked, but was off by a couple of inches 
on the length as I recall)


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/24/2013 3:52 PM, Bruce wrote:
Does anyone know where I might find a Solarworld 165 or 175 mono 
module?  We have to replace one that got damaged.


Thanks!

Bruce Leininger

PV System Designer

GRID Alternatives

1171 Ocean Avenue, Suite 200,

Oakland, CA 94608

Cell 415.571.1764

/GRID Alternatives' mission is to empower communities in need to meet 
their basic requirements of health, education, and economic 
opportunity by providing renewable energy and energy efficiency 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-24 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc

The PPSI [Photon Photovoltaic Stock Index] in the magazines most recent
issue shows that the stock value of SolarWorld AG has dropped 51.6% since
Jan. 1, 2010. I'm sure this has something to do with the modules 'makeover'.
http://www.photon-magazine.com/
Jim Duncan
North Texas Renewable Energy


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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of William
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  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:18 PM
  To: RE-wrenches
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly


  Friends:

  I got my hands on the first of the new poly modules today.  I understood
that the new framing would be present on the new mono and poly modules.
They are called the plus series.

  The new frames present some problems.  There is no place for an Acme clip
and no provision for back mount clips.  We have been using the Acme clips as
really the only listed, non-plastic, commercially available cable routing
device on the market.  Now that these don't work, we spent the day figuring
out an alternative technique for routing PV cables.  I think we came up with
a pretty good solution that works with the DPW P6 rail and Enphase
components that appear to be our new norm.

  The glass on these modules looks cheap.  It is reflective and not flat.
The frames look and feel flimsy.  It used to be the American made meant
quality but I'm not so sure any more.

  I spoke with my vendor and he said that complaints have been rolling in
about the lack of a flange and the frame will be modified to include a
flange.  No idea how soon.

  Sincerely,

  William Miller
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-24 Thread Chris

I agree, we just received our first ones too on Wednesday, and the
reflectivity is ridiculous. I have Arco 16-200's, Siemen's M75's, Shell's
too here, all top notch. This Poly series is a real down grade in SolarWorld
quality for sure.

 

Sincerely,

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Solar Wind Works
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Phone: 530-582-4503
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 mailto:ch...@solarwindworks.com ch...@solarwindworks.com
Proven Energy Solutions

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:18 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

 

Friends:

I got my hands on the first of the new poly modules today.  I understood
that the new framing would be present on the new mono and poly modules.
They are called the plus series.

The new frames present some problems.  There is no place for an Acme clip
and no provision for back mount clips.  We have been using the Acme clips as
really the only listed, non-plastic, commercially available cable routing
device on the market.  Now that these don't work, we spent the day figuring
out an alternative technique for routing PV cables.  I think we came up with
a pretty good solution that works with the DPW P6 rail and Enphase
components that appear to be our new norm.

The glass on these modules looks cheap.  It is reflective and not flat.  The
frames look and feel flimsy.  It used to be the American made meant quality
but I'm not so sure any more.

I spoke with my vendor and he said that complaints have been rolling in
about the lack of a flange and the frame will be modified to include a
flange.  No idea how soon.

Sincerely,

William Miller

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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-23 Thread Nik Ponzio

Bill,

I was afraid of that!

One thing I didn't mention earlier is that the old-style frame widths of the
Mono have some significant variation from end to end. This makes it
difficult to maintain a nice even gap between rows. The newer Poly frames
(top-down only) seem to have a much tighter tolerance on the square
dimensions. I still like the Mono style better, but it sounds like we will
have to adapt...

We did also have two freight-damaged shipments. This is mostly an issue
caused by a careless forklift operator but the factory distributors are
also cutting corners with the packaging.

If you see receive a pallet that looks like this,
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_23bAMmghhHRqFjEzsOtkyibeFbxo7C9BtDVyGYSu5g?feat=directlink
I suggest you refuse delivery and let the shipper deal with the freight
claim. What a pain that is!

Otherwise, no failures yet. All systems are go!

-Nik

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Bill Hoffer suneng...@gmail.com wrote:

Nik

I just bought a new mono solarworld 250 and it also has a new stle frame
with no feet, I believe they have switched to the new frame for all their
models now. Limits options for mounting to only using top clips, not good
in my opinion. I believe they are working on their own clip system, last I
saw it looked a bit German and a liitle too fancy for my tastes. I have
not compared glass surfaces between the two models, but I would suspect that
they are switchign to the cheaper reflective glass on all their new
models. Cutting cost in one place and adding in another! Over all thouh a
good solid module.

Bill

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nik Ponzio
npon...@buildingenergyus.comwrote:

Esteemed Wrenches,

I have been using a lot of SolarWorld mono-crystalline modules this year
and I am quite happy with the product. This week we installed our first
SolarWorld poly-crystalline array. I was surprised at how different the two
modules are. The glass on the poly module is highly reflective. I went so
far as to call my distributor to make sure I hadn't gotten a bad batch that
missed the anti-reflective coating step. That's what it seems like!

The other significant difference is the frame style used. The Poly are
only compatible with top-down clamping. I was aware of this from the
datasheets but I had no idea that the glass would be so different.

Take a look at some side-by-side photos here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/109634809794570027207/SolarWorldMonoVsPoly?authkey=Gv1sRgCMuLy4v_ivTUAgfeat=directlink

Just a heads-up to anyone considering getting into SolarWorld.

Happy Summer!
Nik

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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-23 Thread William Dorsett

Nick, that is a huge amount of difference. Like you, I would suspect the
lack of antireflective coating. Please let us in on any Solar World
response.

 

Bill Dorsett

SunwrightS

Manhattan, KS

 

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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Nik Ponzio
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:46 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

 

Esteemed Wrenches,

I have been using a lot of SolarWorld mono-crystalline modules this year and
I am quite happy with the product. This week we installed our first
SolarWorld poly-crystalline array. I was surprised at how different the two
modules are. The glass on the poly module is highly reflective. I went so
far as to call my distributor to make sure I hadn't gotten a bad batch that
missed the anti-reflective coating step. That's what it seems like! 

The other significant difference is the frame style used. The Poly are only
compatible with top-down clamping. I was aware of this from the datasheets
but I had no idea that the glass would be so different. 

Take a look at some side-by-side photos here: 
https://picasaweb.google.com/109634809794570027207/SolarWorldMonoVsPoly?auth
key=Gv1sRgCMuLy4v_ivTUAg
https://picasaweb.google.com/109634809794570027207/SolarWorldMonoVsPoly?aut
hkey=Gv1sRgCMuLy4v_ivTUAgfeat=directlink feat=directlink

Just a heads-up to anyone considering getting into SolarWorld. 

Happy Summer!
Nik

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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-23 Thread William Miller


Friends:

I got my hands on the first of the new poly modules today.  I understood 
that the new framing would be present on the new mono and poly 
modules.  They are called the plus series.


The new frames present some problems.  There is no place for an Acme clip 
and no provision for back mount clips.  We have been using the Acme clips 
as really the only listed, non-plastic, commercially available cable 
routing device on the market.  Now that these don't work, we spent the day 
figuring out an alternative technique for routing PV cables.  I think we 
came up with a pretty good solution that works with the DPW P6 rail and 
Enphase components that appear to be our new norm.


The glass on these modules looks cheap.  It is reflective and not 
flat.  The frames look and feel flimsy.  It used to be the American made 
meant quality but I'm not so sure any more.


I spoke with my vendor and he said that complaints have been rolling in 
about the lack of a flange and the frame will be modified to include a 
flange.  No idea how soon.


Sincerely,

William Miller
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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-22 Thread Nik Ponzio

Esteemed Wrenches,

I have been using a lot of SolarWorld mono-crystalline modules this year and
I am quite happy with the product. This week we installed our first
SolarWorld poly-crystalline array. I was surprised at how different the two
modules are. The glass on the poly module is highly reflective. I went so
far as to call my distributor to make sure I hadn't gotten a bad batch that
missed the anti-reflective coating step. That's what it seems like!

The other significant difference is the frame style used. The Poly are only
compatible with top-down clamping. I was aware of this from the datasheets
but I had no idea that the glass would be so different.

Take a look at some side-by-side photos here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/109634809794570027207/SolarWorldMonoVsPoly?authkey=Gv1sRgCMuLy4v_ivTUAgfeat=directlink

Just a heads-up to anyone considering getting into SolarWorld.

Happy Summer!
Nik

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Williston, VT 05495
http://www.BuildingEnergyVT.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Poly

2011-06-22 Thread Bill Hoffer

Nik

Bill

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nik Ponzio npon...@buildingenergyus.comwrote:

Esteemed Wrenches,

The other significant difference is the frame style used. The Poly are only
compatible with top-down clamping. I was aware of this from the datasheets
but I had no idea that the glass would be so different.

Take a look at some side-by-side photos here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/109634809794570027207/SolarWorldMonoVsPoly?authkey=Gv1sRgCMuLy4v_ivTUAgfeat=directlink

Just a heads-up to anyone considering getting into SolarWorld.

Happy Summer!
Nik

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Building Energy
1570 South Brownell Road
Williston, VT 05495
http://www.BuildingEnergyVT.com

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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-14 Thread Dave Click

I believe this is saying that after the initial LID (Light Induced 
Degradation), it will be rated at no less than 97% of STC. AFAIK, LID is 
easily a percent or two on most modules. These modules will have been 
tested to produce at least their rated output when they leave the 
factory, before they see sunlight.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245
From: Kent Osterberg k...@coveoregon.com
To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Date: 2010/10/13 15:22

Marco,

There was a time in the near past when +/- 10% meant that every module
shipped was at least -5%. Things have improved.
The copy of the SW 245 spec sheet that I just downloaded has a red note
explaining that every module is above nominal in their flash test. The
+/- 3 tolerance may be largely uncertainty in the accuracy of the flash
test equipment, procedures, and in how the flash test correlates to the
real world. In other words it is a CYA operation.

Kent Osterberg
Blue Mountain Solar

Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:

SolarWorld is pushing hard its 245-watt module with the claim that it
has won the Photon mag module competition in 2008 and 2009 (compared
to several other manufacturers).

I can send the spec sheet to anyone who wants it. It states on the
front page: SolarWorld only delivers modules that have */greater than
or equal to the nameplate rated power/*. (emphasis added)

This implies clearly to me a minus zero percent power tolerance.

And then you look at the finer print on page 2 and see under *Power
Tolerance : +/- 3%**

*Only modules with flash-tested  or = Pmax are delivered. Linear
warranty guarantees Year 1 module output to  or + 97% or Pmax.

I’m confused. Does this mod actually have a -0 PT or not?

And on another note, are many of you finding it difficult to get an
adequate supply of PV mods to meet your demands these days?
SolarWorld, Schott, Sharp and Kyocera seem to be in short supply these
days out in these here parts.

Thanks,

marco

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[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-13 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf

SolarWorld is pushing hard its 245-watt module with the claim that it has
won the Photon mag module competition in 2008 and 2009 (compared to several
other manufacturers).

 

I can send the spec sheet to anyone who wants it.   It states on the front
page:  SolarWorld only delivers modules that have greater than or equal to
the nameplate rated power.  (emphasis added)

 

This implies clearly to me a minus zero percent power tolerance.

 

And then you look at the finer print on page 2 and see under Power Tolerance
: +/- 3%*

*Only modules with flash-tested  or = Pmax are delivered.  Linear warranty
guarantees Year 1 module output to  or + 97% or Pmax.

 

I'm confused.  Does this mod actually have a -0 PT or not?

 

And on another note, are many of you finding it difficult to get an adequate
supply of PV mods to meet your demands these days?  SolarWorld, Schott,
Sharp and Kyocera seem to be in short supply these days out in these here
parts.

 

Thanks,

marco

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-13 Thread R Ray Walters

My long field experience with Solarworld modules measured in conjunction with 
an irradiance meter, shows that they do consistently out perform their STC 
ratings.
Of course that's not a take it to the bank lab test. I've also seen Sunpower 
outperform its STC ratings.

R. Walters
r...@solarray.com
Solar Engineer




On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:

 SolarWorld is pushing hard its 245-watt module with the claim that it has won 
 the Photon mag module competition in 2008 and 2009 (compared to several other 
 manufacturers).
  
 I can send the spec sheet to anyone who wants it.   It states on the front 
 page:  SolarWorld only delivers modules that have greater than or equal to 
 the nameplate rated power.  (emphasis added)
  
 This implies clearly to me a minus zero percent power tolerance.
  
 And then you look at the finer print on page 2 and see under Power Tolerance 
 : +/- 3%*
 *Only modules with flash-tested  or = Pmax are delivered.  Linear warranty 
 guarantees Year 1 module output to  or + 97% or Pmax.
  
 I’m confused.  Does this mod actually have a -0 PT or not?
  
 And on another note, are many of you finding it difficult to get an adequate 
 supply of PV mods to meet your demands these days?  SolarWorld, Schott, Sharp 
 and Kyocera seem to be in short supply these days out in these here parts.
  
 Thanks,
 marco
  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-13 Thread Kent Osterberg





Marco, 

There was a time in the near past when +/- 10% meant that every module
shipped was at least -5%. Things have improved. 
The copy of the SW 245 spec sheet that I just downloaded has a red note
explaining that every module is above nominal in their flash test. The
+/- 3 tolerance may be largely uncertainty in the accuracy of the flash
test equipment, procedures, and in how the flash test correlates to the
real world. In other words it is a CYA operation.

Kent Osterberg
Blue Mountain Solar 


Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:

  
  
  

  
  SolarWorld is pushing hard its 245-watt module
with the
claim that it has won the Photon mag module competition in 2008 and
2009
(compared to several other manufacturers).
  
  I can send the spec sheet to anyone who wants
it. It
states on the front page: SolarWorld only delivers modules that have greater
than or equal to the nameplate rated power. (emphasis added)
  
  This implies clearly to me a minus zero percent power tolerance.
  
  And then you look at the finer print on page 2
and see under
  Power Tolerance : +/- 3%*
  *Only modules with flash-tested  or = Pmax are delivered. Linear warranty
guarantees Year 1 module output to  or + 97% or Pmax.
  
  Im confused. Does this mod actually have a -0
PT or
not?
  
  And on another note, are many of you finding it
difficult to
get an adequate supply of PV mods to meet your demands these days?
SolarWorld, Schott, Sharp and Kyocera seem to be in short supply these
days out
in these here parts.
  
  Thanks,
  marco
  
  



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