Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

2017-03-07 Thread August Goers
If I understood Peter’s original email properly, he noted that the ground
bushings had been “broken” to facilitate installation. If indeed regular
ground bushings had been modified or cut then that would violate the
correct installation methods. Here is a regular ground bushing:





If they actually installed the split-type retrofit style bushings, such as
the one below, then there shouldn’t be a problem:





I would cite NEC 250.97 Bonding for Over 250 Volts (4) Listed fittings. A
listed fitting must be used to bond the metal raceway. A modified or broken
ground bushing is not a listed fitting.



August





August Goers

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*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2017 10:58 AM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings



Peter,

Bridgeport makes both split ring grounding bushings and plastic bushings in
that size. No threading on to the connector required.



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
<re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *William Miller
*Sent:* Saturday, March 04, 2017 3:08 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings



Peter:



Would these work?



http://www.garvinindustries.com/conduit-fittings-supports/rigid-conduit-fittings/split-grounding-bushings/sgb50?gclid=CI7R876yvNICFQmIfgodVAkI3g





William


On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:14 AM, <peter.parr...@calsolareng.com> <
peter.parr...@calsolareng.com> wrote:

Recently we were asked to do a combined inspection and engineering review
of a 362.70 kWdc PV system using 5 Sungrow SG60KM-U inverters. We found
issues like palm trees and air handling equipment shading significant parts
of the arrays, electrician’s tape and palm fronds on the surface of the
modules. But we also observed two significant Code violations: PV  source
conductors lying on the surface of the torch-down roof and lack of bushings
at the connectors on the ends of 2” LFMC. The PV source conductors got
secured and we saw bushings threaded onto the ends LFMC connectors.



Upon close inspection we discovered that the bushings had been broken at
one point on their circumference, no doubt to simplify their attachment.
Their were 11 PV source circuits (22 current-carrying 10 AWG PV Wire
conductors.)



Is this a NEC Code violation? If so, what section would we cite? It seems
obvious that the bushing had been “modified”, but I would like to be more
specific. Or does it come under the workmanship category?



Regards,



   - Peter Parrish



Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President

SolarGnosis

1107 Fair Oaks Ave.

Suite 351

South Pasadena, CA 91030

(323) 839-6108

peter.parr...@solargnosis.com

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

2017-03-04 Thread Glenn Burt
Well, to start it is a 110.3(B) violation to cut the bushings as you describe 
and install them.

-Original Message-
From: "peter.parr...@calsolareng.com" 
Sent: ‎3/‎3/‎2017 14:14
To: "'RE-wrenches'" 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

Recently we were asked to do a combined inspection and engineering review of a 
362.70 kWdc PV system using 5 Sungrow SG60KM-U inverters. We found issues like 
palm trees and air handling equipment shading significant parts of the arrays, 
electrician’s tape and palm fronds on the surface of the modules. But we also 
observed two significant Code violations: PV  source conductors lying on the 
surface of the torch-down roof and lack of bushings at the connectors on the 
ends of 2” LFMC. The PV source conductors got secured and we saw bushings 
threaded onto the ends LFMC connectors.

Upon close inspection we discovered that the bushings had been broken at one 
point on their circumference, no doubt to simplify their attachment. Their were 
11 PV source circuits (22 current-carrying 10 AWG PV Wire conductors.)

Is this a NEC Code violation? If so, what section would we cite? It seems 
obvious that the bushing had been “modified”, but I would like to be more 
specific. Or does it come under the workmanship category?

Regards,

- Peter Parrish

Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President
SolarGnosis
1107 Fair Oaks Ave.
Suite 351
South Pasadena, CA 91030
(323) 839-6108
peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

2017-03-04 Thread William Miller
Peter:

Would these work?

http://www.garvinindustries.com/conduit-fittings-supports/rigid-conduit-fittings/split-grounding-bushings/sgb50?gclid=CI7R876yvNICFQmIfgodVAkI3g


William

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 11:14 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Recently we were asked to do a combined inspection and engineering review of 
> a 362.70 kWdc PV system using 5 Sungrow SG60KM-U inverters. We found issues 
> like palm trees and air handling equipment shading significant parts of the 
> arrays, electrician’s tape and palm fronds on the surface of the modules. But 
> we also observed two significant Code violations: PV  source conductors lying 
> on the surface of the torch-down roof and lack of bushings at the connectors 
> on the ends of 2” LFMC. The PV source conductors got secured and we saw 
> bushings threaded onto the ends LFMC connectors.
>  
> Upon close inspection we discovered that the bushings had been broken at one 
> point on their circumference, no doubt to simplify their attachment. Their 
> were 11 PV source circuits (22 current-carrying 10 AWG PV Wire conductors.)
>  
> Is this a NEC Code violation? If so, what section would we cite? It seems 
> obvious that the bushing had been “modified”, but I would like to be more 
> specific. Or does it come under the workmanship category?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Peter Parrish
>  
> Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President
> SolarGnosis
> 1107 Fair Oaks Ave.
> Suite 351
> South Pasadena, CA 91030
> (323) 839-6108
> peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

2017-03-04 Thread Glenn Burt
Just got to my code book.

So 300.4(G) says it is the size of the conductor (4AWG), not the quantity that 
triggers the requirement for some type of insulated fitting for conductor 
protection, so I see no violation there.

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of peter.parr...@calsolareng.com
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 2:14 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bushings

 

Recently we were asked to do a combined inspection and engineering review of a 
362.70 kWdc PV system using 5 Sungrow SG60KM-U inverters. We found issues like 
palm trees and air handling equipment shading significant parts of the arrays, 
electrician’s tape and palm fronds on the surface of the modules. But we also 
observed two significant Code violations: PV  source conductors lying on the 
surface of the torch-down roof and lack of bushings at the connectors on the 
ends of 2” LFMC. The PV source conductors got secured and we saw bushings 
threaded onto the ends LFMC connectors.

 

Upon close inspection we discovered that the bushings had been broken at one 
point on their circumference, no doubt to simplify their attachment. Their were 
11 PV source circuits (22 current-carrying 10 AWG PV Wire conductors.)

 

Is this a NEC Code violation? If so, what section would we cite? It seems 
obvious that the bushing had been “modified”, but I would like to be more 
specific. Or does it come under the workmanship category?

 

Regards,

 

*   Peter Parrish

 

Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President

SolarGnosis

1107 Fair Oaks Ave.

Suite 351

South Pasadena, CA 91030

(323) 839-6108

peter.parr...@solargnosis.com  

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