Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-03 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches 

Hi Kirk,

It has been a long time since I used Optics and not sure if this will 
work but here goes. A few years back Schneider came up
with a way to hard wire a tablet for a graphic shot of the system that 
the user does not have to do anything. It is on 24/7.


  I have a few older clients that need this. You would have to have 
optics working. Below is a video on how to do this with a Samsung tablet 
from Eric Bentsen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuGcZafueic=280s

Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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On 2024-04-01 12:08 pm, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches wrote:


Hello All,

I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a 
"charged parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED 
on the 3s starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls 
me. I Wish I could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from 
blinking the event LED for everyone's sanity.


Charged parms met is not an error, but it's crying fire in a theater to 
have this annoyance occurring. It happens several times a week. Is 
there any way to keep non-errors from flashing the LED?


OB tech support is starting to have long lead times, so I am asking 
here first. Thanks.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-03 Thread Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches 
The charge parameters depends on the FNDC settings, so yes, it comes from
the FNDC but is triggered by the combination of the Mate or Mate3, again
depending on the FNDC Settings: There are three "And/Or" Statements.So,
to meet charge parameters, you must satisfy the following.

Statement 1
End Amps
And
Para Met Voltage
And
Para Met Time

If these are met, and there is a 60-second discharge, the Mate shows that
the parameters were met and resets the SOC to 100% 60 seconds in the
past...

BCF%

If set to, say, 95%, When you remove 100 amps and charge back 105 Amps.  If
this is met, and there is a 60-second discharge, the Mate shows that the
parameters were met and resets the SOC to 100% 60 seconds in the past...

Absorb Timer Met

If the charge controllers or inverter meet the absorb timers as
programmed,  and there is a 60-second discharge, the Mate shows that the
parameters were met and resets the SOC to 100% 60 seconds in the past...

I don't know why it displays a flashing LED. That is beyond my knowledge; I
have never seen this, but it might be related to its setup or operation
mode.

As for Lones, he retired (6 Months +) quite some time ago. I don't know who
is now in charge of the wrenches list at Outback. With the recent Outback
developments, I'd be surprised if they have a tech even looking at these
emails.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 10:03 AM Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Greetings Kirk,
>
> It is my understanding that the “charged parms met” comes from the FNDC
> since that is the component measuring the current and going by those
> guidelines in the “Battery Setup” menu assigned to the FNDC port. This
> would seem like a reasonable test and could be done remotely through
> Opticsre without requiring a trip to the site as well. Perhaps Lones can
> comment on this strategy?
>
> Sometimes the smallest insignificant details can trigger a client
> regardless of how well we did with the rest of the system. I feel for you!
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Kirk Herander  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Are you saying that this "charged parms met" message is actually coming
> from the Flexnet? I do have a flexnet in this system. The event log states
> the originating port to be "M", as from the Mate3s itself.
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:49 AM Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Kirk,
>>
>> Does the client rely on the fully charged indicator anyway? Perhaps
>> defeat some of the settings that will satisfy the targets of the Flexnet?
>> Maybe set the “charged voltage” to something a few volts higher than your
>> absorption set point and/or take the timer all the way up to 240 minutes?
>> It’s definitely frustrating that some clients are scared to press any
>> buttons on the Mate, even that Events button can intimidate apparently!
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a
>> "charged parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED on
>> the 3s starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls me. I
>> Wish I could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from blinking
>> the event LED for everyone's sanity.
>>
>>

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-03 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
2 things. Maybe you can sell them a service contract and clear/check the events 1x week via optics. I don’t know if there is a way to prioritize events. To me Ive always had good success with the fndc in regards to be pretty accurate for reading %. Getting rid of it seems the wrong way to go. And Lones is happily retired from OB. JayOn Apr 3, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches  wrote:Greetings Kirk,It is my understanding that the “charged parms met” comes from the FNDC since that is the component measuring the current and going by those guidelines in the “Battery Setup” menu assigned to the FNDC port. This would seem like a reasonable test and could be done remotely through Opticsre without requiring a trip to the site as well. Perhaps Lones can comment on this strategy?Sometimes the smallest insignificant details can trigger a client regardless of how well we did with the rest of the system. I feel for you!Nick

On Apr 2, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Kirk Herander  wrote:Hi,Are you saying that this "charged parms met" message is actually coming from the Flexnet? I do have a flexnet in this system. The event log states the originating port to be "M", as from the Mate3s itself.On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:49 AM Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches  wrote:Hello Kirk,Does the client rely on the fully charged indicator anyway? Perhaps defeat some of the settings that will satisfy the targets of the Flexnet? Maybe set the “charged voltage” to something a few volts higher than your absorption set point and/or take the timer all the way up to 240 minutes? It’s definitely frustrating that some clients are scared to press any buttons on the Mate, even that Events button can intimidate apparently!Nick On Apr 1, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches  wrote:Hello All,I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a "charged parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED on the 3s starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls me. I Wish I could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from blinking the event LED for everyone's sanity.Charged parms met is not an error, but it's crying fire in a theater to have this annoyance occurring. It happens several times a week. Is there any way to keep non-errors from flashing the LED?OB tech support is starting to have long lead times, so I am asking here first. Thanks.-- Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solarOwner|Principal, VT Solar, LLCCelebrating our 33st Anniversary 1991-2024!!dba Vermont Solar Engineering802.559.1225___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org___
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-03 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches 
Greetings Kirk,

It is my understanding that the “charged parms met” comes from the FNDC since 
that is the component measuring the current and going by those guidelines in 
the “Battery Setup” menu assigned to the FNDC port. This would seem like a 
reasonable test and could be done remotely through Opticsre without requiring a 
trip to the site as well. Perhaps Lones can comment on this strategy?

Sometimes the smallest insignificant details can trigger a client regardless of 
how well we did with the rest of the system. I feel for you!

Nick




> On Apr 2, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Kirk Herander  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Are you saying that this "charged parms met" message is actually coming from 
> the Flexnet? I do have a flexnet in this system. The event log states the 
> originating port to be "M", as from the Mate3s itself.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:49 AM Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches 
>  > wrote:
> Hello Kirk,
> 
> Does the client rely on the fully charged indicator anyway? Perhaps defeat 
> some of the settings that will satisfy the targets of the Flexnet? Maybe set 
> the “charged voltage” to something a few volts higher than your absorption 
> set point and/or take the timer all the way up to 240 minutes? It’s 
> definitely frustrating that some clients are scared to press any buttons on 
> the Mate, even that Events button can intimidate apparently!
> 
> Nick
>  
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a "charged 
>> parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED on the 3s 
>> starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls me. I Wish I 
>> could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from blinking the event 
>> LED for everyone's sanity.
>> 
>> Charged parms met is not an error, but it's crying fire in a theater to have 
>> this annoyance occurring. It happens several times a week. Is there any way 
>> to keep non-errors from flashing the LED?
>> 
>> OB tech support is starting to have long lead times, so I am asking here 
>> first. Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kirk Herander /  <>kirkh@vermont.solar 
>> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
>> Celebrating our 33st Anniversary 1991-2024!!
>> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>> 802.559.1225
>> 
> 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-02 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches 
Hi,
Are you saying that this "charged parms met" message is actually coming
from the Flexnet? I do have a flexnet in this system. The event log states
the originating port to be "M", as from the Mate3s itself.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:49 AM Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hello Kirk,
>
> Does the client rely on the fully charged indicator anyway? Perhaps defeat
> some of the settings that will satisfy the targets of the Flexnet? Maybe
> set the “charged voltage” to something a few volts higher than your
> absorption set point and/or take the timer all the way up to 240 minutes?
> It’s definitely frustrating that some clients are scared to press any
> buttons on the Mate, even that Events button can intimidate apparently!
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a
> "charged parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED on
> the 3s starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls me. I
> Wish I could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from blinking
> the event LED for everyone's sanity.
>
> Charged parms met is not an error, but it's crying fire in a theater to
> have this annoyance occurring. It happens several times a week. Is there
> any way to keep non-errors from flashing the LED?
>
> OB tech support is starting to have long lead times, so I am asking here
> first. Thanks.
>
> --
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Mate3s error vs. event log

2024-04-01 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches 
Hello Kirk,

Does the client rely on the fully charged indicator anyway? Perhaps defeat some 
of the settings that will satisfy the targets of the Flexnet? Maybe set the 
“charged voltage” to something a few volts higher than your absorption set 
point and/or take the timer all the way up to 240 minutes? It’s definitely 
frustrating that some clients are scared to press any buttons on the Mate, even 
that Events button can intimidate apparently!

Nick
 

> On Apr 1, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have a customer with a OB Radian GS8048A, grid tied, which logs a "charged 
> parms met" message regularly. When it does, the event log LED on the 3s 
> starts blinking. My customer thinks it's an error, and calls me. I Wish I 
> could somehow defeat this event, and any non-error, from blinking the event 
> LED for everyone's sanity.
> 
> Charged parms met is not an error, but it's crying fire in a theater to have 
> this annoyance occurring. It happens several times a week. Is there any way 
> to keep non-errors from flashing the LED?
> 
> OB tech support is starting to have long lead times, so I am asking here 
> first. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Herander /  <>kirkh@vermont.solar 
> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
> Celebrating our 33st Anniversary 1991-2024!!
> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
> 802.559.1225
> 

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