Sorry: as mentioned in the thread, it was changed to:
http://reddotmusings.blogspot.com/
in order to convey a less-biased outlook.
~ Jonathan
On Nov 24, 7:24 pm, dino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, the blog link doesn't seem to work, how do I see your blog?
On Nov 19, 11:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to publicise some bugs, design flaws, and usability issues
relating to RedDot, for those who might be evaluating it. I'm trying
to foster debate about what kinds of features a modern day CMS needs
and how they might be implemented. I'm trying to gauge public opinion
- to what extent am I on my own here, and how much do others share my
thoughts? I'm trying to let off some steam.
On Nov 19, 7:15 pm, Adam Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think you've really answered Morgan's first question.
You're interested in the comments, but what are you trying to achieve with
your blog?
What purpose do you hope the comments generated by your blog will serve?
Adam
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sayno more [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. I'm interested in the comments, as evidenced - I think - by my
responses
to them. I'd like responses to my blog posts which are not how do I do
this type questions, which would obviously not be appropriate in a blog
format, by critical evaluations of a piece of software, and its design.
2. I'll be interested to see how many of the gripes have been, or will
be,
addressed. As you point out, some of these gripes are genuine flaws of
the
software as it stands right now, and will be useful information for
those
who are considering adopting RedDot for their website.
3. This sounds quite positive, so we'll all wait and see what the
outcome
is.
4. I've done just that with a dedicated follow-up post. Thanks.
2008/11/18 theHam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED],
1. to clarify what you are trying to achieve with these blog posts,
are you attempting to get some assistance and/or information with the
issues you are describing? I think from the amount of people that have
contributed to this post already that it should be demonstrated that
there are people here looking to help you if you want it. Or from the
sounds of your comment I cannot see how I could possibly get a
positive outcome from this software, given the flaws that, IMO, are
pretty fundamental have you made a decision and will not be
interested in the comments from people here? If you could let everyone
be aware of your position i think it will help the more passionate
people here and hopefully stop this becoming an unproductive flame war
(as these things types of threads tend to become)
2. I would love it if the RedDot engineers took some notice of these
comments. RedDot have taken notice of these comments. The next
version of reddot coming out will be addressing your gripe #1 as the
text editor is being replaced. Gripe #2 is being addressed (i believe
around may next year) with a cms frontend rewrite based on usability
fundamentals. Yes these have not been released yet and do not address
your issues right now but based on my previous comment other gripes
like the ones you have been mentioned have in the past been
progressively acknowledged and addressed - there is hope.
3. You asked earlier whether reddot would charge for upgrades, I'm
unaware of what region you are from but from ours if you are up to
date with your software support and maintenance upgrades are generally
provided under those costs (N.B. this may be different region to
region)
4. I posted in the comments a reference to this link. If possible
could you directly edit your post to refer to this discussion? If
people do not view the comments of the post they may miss the link.
Cheers,
- Morgan
On Nov 19, 1:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the thoughtful comments, theham. I'll be dealing with a
lot of what you say later on, but - in the meantime:
all software is frustrating and flawed - I think this is either not
the case, or an awful indictment of our craft if it is. I personally
make regular use of software that is neither flawed nor frustrating;
as I alluded to earlier, maybe that should be rephrased as all
complex software is frustrating and flawed. I take the point, of
course, that RedDot is not the only culprit.
If you can please update your blog post - you beat me to it -
thanks :)
Why not try and get a positive outcome from your currently negative
experience? - of course, that would be ideal. I guess I'm feeling
pessimistic at the moment - I cannot see how I could possibly get a
positive outcome from this software, given the flaws that, IMO, are
pretty fundamental.
