Re: [regext] [Ext] Re: first reason not to do EPP and DNAME records?

2018-01-17 Thread Kim Davies
Hi Stephane,

Quoting Stephane Bortzmeyer on Tuesday January 16, 2018:
> 
> One of the annoying things at IETF is that there is no clear directive
> on the order to do things which involve several stakeholders. At the
> discussion in dnsop about draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root, Kim Davies
> (IANA) suggested that it wasn't productive to discuss the policy part
> of the project since there isn't even an EPP mapping for it. So, what
> is the right order and who decides on it? (Personal advice: there is
> no order, things are faster when done in parallel.)

That is not quite what I said. I was responding to a thread on dnsop a
few months back where there was the suggestion that implementing support
for DNAME records in the root zone would be trivial. My view is that
it is not likely to be trivial, and as an illustrative example noted
"Just one of the many things that would need to be looked at is how to
transmit DNAME provisioning requests via EPP. I don't know if there is
even an EPP mapping for this."

My view on this work is that if there is a broader application for a
DNAME mapping, it is a good idea to standardize it. If it is really
only intended for the root zone, for a speculative future where we may
need to provision DNAME records, then I don't think it is necessary for
that reason alone. In such a scenario, there are alternatives such as
developing private extensions between the only two parties who would
ever be putting it to use.

kim

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Re: [regext] EPP and DNAME records, how to do it

2018-01-17 Thread John R Levine

OK, I see your point. Documented in an appendix in
draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-05.txt as a possible alternative.


Thanks.

Now my question is that since we have a workable approach that does not 
require a new EPP extension, and since (in my opinion at least) DNAMEs as 
2LDs are an actively bad idea, what need is there for this extension?


Regards,
John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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[regext] REGEXT Interim Meeting

2018-01-17 Thread Roger D Carney
Good Morning,



I would like to invite everyone to an interim meeting Wednesday January 31st at 
15:00 UTC for 60 minutes.



We plan to focus the discussion around the Registry Mapping proposal.



Agenda

  1.  Introduce the Registry Mapping concepts
 *   Base Mappings
 *   Policy Extensions: how a server implements an extension, the 
SHOULD(s), MAY(s), etc.



We will once again use Zoom as a conferencing tool, please use this 
link to connect to the meeting.



Please reply to the list or directly to myself if you plan on attending this 
meeting.





Thanks

Roger

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Re: [regext] EPP and DNAME records, how to do it

2018-01-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 08:38:59AM -0500,
 John R Levine  wrote 
 a message of 40 lines which said:

> New tiny zone on [abc].iana-servers.net:
> 
> evil. SOA whatever
> evil. NS a.iana-servers.net.
> evil. NS b.iana-servers.net.
> evil. NS c.iana-servers.net.
> evil. DNAME empty.as112.arpa.

OK, I see your point. Documented in an appendix in
draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-05.txt as a possible alternative.

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