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Re: fsck.reiser4 can't fix 1 fixable corruption
On Friday 30 April 2004 07:16, Hans Reiser wrote: Vitaly, please report on the status of your solution in this matter. currently stand-alone libreiser4 is not compilable. I am not finished yet with the repair code with the plugin inheritance, this is what am working on now. Then I will work on the stand-alone libreiser4 and grub and then get a solution. -- Thanks, Vitaly Fertman
Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?
I just want to add that I am very grateful to Domenico for the work he has done in trying to aid integration. It is a pity that Debian and Suse historically silently cut the attributions (this was before Domenico got involved with us) rather than engaging us in a dialogue about them first, thus inspiring the current license. Once it was brought to our attention, we did reduce the size of the credits by using a random credit program instead of exhaustively crediting everyone. If I didn't see what RedHat was doing to KDE, and didn't see cutting of developer credits as a growing trend among distros, we probably would not be moving to an anti-plagiarism license. You the distros created the need for less free licensing by your behavior, frankly. Hans
Re: metas Permission Denied
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 01:19, Hans Reiser wrote: Chris Mason wrote: On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 12:22, Nikita Danilov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:59:22 +0400, Nikita Danilov said: chmod u+rx backup/fsplit.c x bit is necessary for lookups, and r bit---for readdir. This is going to be *such* a non-starter - there's many decades of C files are mode 644 and executables are 755 tradition that this will fly against. What this basically implies is that the 'execute' Eh? What I described is precisely decades old meaning of rwx bits for directories. Problem is that we have to fit objects that are both regular files and directories into access control scheme that wasn't designed for such a mix. I don't see better solution short of inventing new bit(s). Please forgive me for jumping into the end of a thread without reading the whole thing, but it seems like the r bit should be sufficient here. If you can read the file, you should be able to read the metas. x should be for execution of the file... what if the file/directory contains real files which are not metas, and it also has a file body? This is possible in reiser4. Well, that would explain needing the execute bit ;-) I guess this is a matter of taste, but to me, the metas are really part of the file. If you can read the file you should be able to at least read the listing of metas, for the same reasons that you can read the file size and atime/mtime etc. This could hold true for /somedir/metas as well. -chris
Re: reiser4 non-free?
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone posted the following on slashdot, presumably a debian someone: Nobody's saying that your proprietary hardware will cease to work in Debian. The packages will still exist; they'll just be in the non-free section, separated out so that people who don't want any non-free software can omit that section from their sources.list file. Non-free packages are technically not part of Debian, but if you have a non-free line in your sources.list, there's no difference whatsoever in how you use them. So hopefully, Debian can print out some nice warning that Reiser4 is not plagiarizable, and if the user indicates that they still want to use it anyway, they can go forward. The largest problem is that with the clarification, you seem to have changed the license, making it slightly more restrictive than the plain old GPL. The combination of Reiser4 and the kernel triggers GPL Section 2. That means that Debian will not be able to distribute Reiser4 at all. If you changed the clarification to a request, then Debian would have no problems distributing it, even with the blurb. I find Debian's aggressive behavior toward myself, and especially Richard Stallman and his GFDL, to be inappropriate and ungrateful, but I also understand that Debian is striving to define its morality, and that much of the world shares its rather asian attitude towards whether it is acceptable to not credit others for their contributions to science. I do not. I think the western approach of rigor in attribution has been of great value in stimulating innovation over the centuries, and think it should be applied to free software as much as it was to free science research. There are many, many software authors who have given away extremely useful things for no cost. That doesn't mean that Debian will distribute those things. I don't expect to convince Debian of this, especially not after your vote that you recently had, but it would be pleasant if users who don't mind attribution are able to select reiser4 if they want it. Make the license GPL-compatible, and Debian probably will make it available. Regards, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
