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Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-29 Thread Matthias Barremaecker

Hi,

Thanx for your reply.

The data is not THAT importend, all our importend data is backuped 4 
times, inc. original (well, 3 times now, since the 1300gig machine is 
broke).


I did a bit furtur reasearch and maybe this is something to think about 
if you use reiserfs :


I did a bad block check and I have 10 bad blocks of 4096bytes on 1300Gig 
and ... that is the reason reiserfs will not work anymore.


I guess this sux. I rather have that the data on the bad blocks is just 
corupted but the rest is accesseble.


I'm doing a --rebuild-tree with the bad block list. Hopes this works.


Aren't there any tools to substract data from a broken reiserfs partition ?


kind regardes,

Matthias.



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On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:25:54 +0200, Matthias Barremaecker said:



but that sais it is a fysical drive error



Physical drive errors.  Your hardware is broken.  Isn't much that Reiserfs
can do about it.



What can I do.



1) Call whoever you get hardware support from.

2) Be ready to restore from backups.

3) If you didn't have RAID-5 (or similar) set up, or a good backup, consider
it a learning experience.

If your data is important enough that you'll care if you lose it, you should 
take
steps to make sure you won't lose it... It's that simple.

(Just for the record, if we have important info, it gets at least RAID5, a
backup to tape or other device, *and* a *second* backup off-site.  And my shop
is far from the most paranoid about such things.)



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Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:25:54 +0200, Matthias Barremaecker said:

> but that sais it is a fysical drive error

Physical drive errors.  Your hardware is broken.  Isn't much that Reiserfs
can do about it.

> What can I do.

1) Call whoever you get hardware support from.

2) Be ready to restore from backups.

3) If you didn't have RAID-5 (or similar) set up, or a good backup, consider
it a learning experience.

If your data is important enough that you'll care if you lose it, you should 
take
steps to make sure you won't lose it... It's that simple.

(Just for the record, if we have important info, it gets at least RAID5, a
backup to tape or other device, *and* a *second* backup off-site.  And my shop
is far from the most paranoid about such things.)



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Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-29 Thread Matthias Barremaecker

Hi,

I have a huge problem.

setup : LVM with 8 disks

fs : reiserfs

All of the sudden it stoped working, I can't mount it anymore.

reiserfsck said it had 43 errors and I should do

   reiserfsck --rebuild-tree

what I did.

but that sais it is a fysical drive error

Point is : it is 1300 gig. and I can't mount it.

What can I do.

Thanx.


RE: Problems with accessing directory

2005-05-29 Thread Kurt Ghekiere
Valdis,
Thank you for your info, 
Its Sunday evening in Belgium, we will have to find a solution
Because as ISP its that or cut the phone lines tomorrow :-)
If we find something we'll post it 
Thanks,
Kurt & Pascal 

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Verzonden: zondag 29 mei 2005 20:05
Aan: Kurt Ghekiere
CC: Webservice; reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Onderwerp: Re: Problems with accessing directory 

On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:44:02 +0200, Kurt Ghekiere said:

> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Process hax0r (pid: 3738,
> stackpage=f121b000)
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Stack:  bfe5 1000 
> f63b6000 bfffe7f0 f63b6000 b8e4 
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:f78aaf22 0a3a 0020
f121a000
> c0108a93 000b bfffe7f0 f78a99a1
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:  

>    
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Call Trace:[]
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Code: 8a 02 84 c0 75 ef e8 9c ec ff ff 
> 89
> c2 80 3a 00 0f 84 bb 00

Interesting process name indeed. Hopefully you recognize it? ;)

I would suggest running the call trace through ksymoops, but it's so
short that we've quite obviously clobbered the stack to the point that
ksymoops won't tell us anything useful.

I'd investigate why you get all those insmod errors - why is the system
trying to load pciehp and hw_random if there's no device?
Alternatively, are other modules getting loaded incorrectly and blocking
those from starting? It's possible that if your kernel and modules are
out of sync, that Bad Things like panics happen

You probably should look at upgrading the userspace reiserfsck and
MD/LVM tools
- your kernel seems unhappy with the old versions.

Other than that, I admit to not having any clear "AHA! THAT's their
problem"
solution, sorry



Re: Problems with accessing directory

2005-05-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:44:02 +0200, Kurt Ghekiere said:

> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Process hax0r (pid: 3738,
> stackpage=f121b000)
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Stack:  bfe5 1000 f63b6000
> bfffe7f0 f63b6000 b8e4 
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:f78aaf22 0a3a 0020 f121a000
> c0108a93 000b bfffe7f0 f78a99a1
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:   
>    
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Call Trace:[]
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel:
> May 29 17:28:51 mail3 kernel: Code: 8a 02 84 c0 75 ef e8 9c ec ff ff 89
> c2 80 3a 00 0f 84 bb 00

Interesting process name indeed. Hopefully you recognize it? ;)

I would suggest running the call trace through ksymoops, but it's so short that
we've quite obviously clobbered the stack to the point that ksymoops won't tell
us anything useful.

I'd investigate why you get all those insmod errors - why is the system trying
to load pciehp and hw_random if there's no device?  Alternatively, are other
modules getting loaded incorrectly and blocking those from starting? It's
possible that if your kernel and modules are out of sync, that Bad Things like
panics happen

You probably should look at upgrading the userspace reiserfsck and MD/LVM tools
- your kernel seems unhappy with the old versions.

Other than that, I admit to not having any clear "AHA! THAT's their problem"
solution, sorry


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Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-29 Thread Alexander G. M. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 28 May 2005 15:42:35 -0400:
> I'm not Hans, but I *will* ask "How much of this is *rationally* doable
> without some help from the VFS?".  At the very least, some of this stuff
> will require the FS to tell the VFS to suspend its disbelief (for starters,
> doing this without confusing the VFS's concepts of dentries/inodes/reference
> counts is going to be interesting... :)

Good point.  One way would be to cram it into the existing VFS (the
operating system's interface to file systems) as directories representing
the objects, containing a specially named file for the raw data, mixed in
with child items and symbolic links to parent objects.  Some inodes would
be fake ones, geneated as needed to represent the old style view of the
file / directory / attribute thing (such as the parent symbolic links).

But what would I (Hans likely has other views) like to see in a new VFS
to support files / directories / attributes all being the same kind of
object?  I'll talk about the user level API view of the VFS, rather than
the flip side for file systems or the gritty VFS internals, since it
doesn't need to be Linux specific.

For one, it would be almost the same as the existing VFS.  But when you
open a fildirute-thing, you can use the same file handle to read and
write its data and to list its children.

Thus open() and opendir() are combined into plain open().  It takes a
conventional hierarchical path (or later some of Hans Reiser's more
sophisticated namespaces?).  Returns a file handle.

The resulting file handle can be used with read(), write(), seek(),
readdir(), rewinddir() and the rest of the usual directory and file
basic operations.  And of course, close() it when you're done.

Stat() would disappear.  All the miscellaneous stat data would be
stored as sub-files, things like the date last modified, access
permissions and so on.  There would be a standard filename and file
type for those metadata subfiles to distinguish them from user created
subfiles (such as file/.meta.last_modified).  That also makes it
easier to add new kinds of metadata.

And that's about it for the basics.

Standard utilities, like "ls" would have to be changed to use the new
object structure - listing the contents of a thing and avoiding
recursion down paths that lead to parent objects (just like "ls"
currently avoids listing ".." recursively).  That may involve more
work than the kernel changes!

I'd add a multi-read function to replace stat().  Give it a list of
sub-file names to read and it returns their names and contents in a
packed list (like a dirent structure).  That way bulk reading date
stamps, permissions and other attributish small metadata as subfiles
won't have as much overhead as opening then individually.  Particularly
if under the hood they are stored as fields in the file's inode rather
than as totally separate files (this is what BeOS's BFS does for small
attributes).  Though conceptually you treat them as separate subfiles.

I'd also like to add indexing.  That could be done by creating a magic
directory with an associated file type to index.  Then whenever a file
with that file type is changed, the index is updated using the file's
contents as the key, and a link to the file as the value.  The file
type also implies the interpretation of the values for sorting
purposes - as strings, binary numbers, etc.  Unlike BeOS, I'd expose
the indices directly (appearing as a directory full of hard links)
and have query languages implemented in userland libraries that make
use the indices, rather than as part of the file system.  Now should
indices be system wide and maintained by the VFS, or per-volume and
maintained by the file system?  How about indices for things on network
drives?  Things on public web sites for a web-view file system?

I'd also like to add change notification.  If a file system object's
child list changes, then a notification message gets sent to interested
listeners.  Similarly for an object's data content change.  BeOS had
useful notifications for live changes to a query - I'd punt this to
the userland query library and have it build on the change notifications
from an index directory.  The VFS and other parts of the OS would need
to support change notification (BeOS used inter-process message queues).

Can a file-as-directory system fit into Linux, or some other OS?
I expect that it will only happen if the new system also exposes a
backwards compatible view for old software, using the old APIs.
After that's done, the first big user program that needs to be
updated is the desktop file browser.  Once there's a good GUI for
browsing file-as-directory file systems, the general public might
become more aware of their advantages (easily drilling down inside
files to attach a description subfile or add a bunch of MP3 tags,
magic query directories and indexing to find things quickly, multiple
parents to put the same file in multiple folders without the
breakability of sym

Re: Problems with accessing directory

2005-05-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 29 May 2001 18:14:28 +0200, Webservice said:

> When accessing a particulary directory, the systems hangs with a kernel
> panic (mapping memory).

This will be a lot easier to diagnose with:

The exact version of your kernel (uname -a), the version of reiserfsck,
and the actual panic traceback (set up a serial console to catch it, or
even take a picture with a digital camera if all else fails).

Have you run 'badblocks' on the 4 md devices, to rule out an actual bad
spot on the disk?


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Problems with accessing directory

2005-05-29 Thread Webservice
After a new build off a server we keep getting problems with it.
The server is in software raid-1 (mirroring) with slackware 10.1 and
reiserfs.

When accessing a particulary directory, the systems hangs with a kernel
panic (mapping memory).
Memory has been changed twice without any effect.

When starting up the machine we got lot (hundreds) of thes messages:
md:reiserfsck (pid 106) used obsolete MD ioctl,  upgrade your software to
use new
ictls.
Then machine boots further, and it works normally until we access a
perticulair directory.
The server reboots or hangs with a kernel panic (mapping virtual memory)
Switching to init 1 and then reiserfsck --rebuild-tree reports errors which
can be fixed, but the problems still remains.

/proc/mdstat gives no errors
Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid5]
read_ahead 1024 sectors
md0 : active raid1 sdb2[1] sda2[0]
  19542976 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 sdb3[1] sda3[0]
  19542976 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md2 : active raid1 sdb5[1] sda5[0]
  19542976 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md3 : active raid1 sdb6[1] sda6[0]
  17293824 blocks [2/2] [UU]

unused devices: 

any ideas?


Thx in advandce...



Fwd: Bug#309512: reiserfsprogs: Typo in reiserfstune manpage

2005-05-29 Thread Domenico Andreoli
cheers
domenico


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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:46:56 +0200
From: Dennis Brakhane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bug#309512: reiserfsprogs: Typo in reiserfstune manpage

Package: reiserfsprogs
Version: 1:3.6.19-1
Severity: minor

The manpage describes reiserfstune as a "tunning" tool.

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