Re: Elisa application
Hello, On Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:29:39 PM CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El diumenge, 10 de novembre de 2019, a les 20:55:09 CET, Nate Graham va escriure: > > On 11/10/19 12:07 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > El diumenge, 10 de novembre de 2019, a les 14:12:17 CET, Matthieu Gallien va escriure: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> Through the messages on kde-devel, I noticed that Elisa did not get the > > >> release/19.12 branch created. > > >> > > >> As far as I had understood, Elisa would be part of the release service > > >> starting with the 19.12 release. Should I do or fix things to help on > > >> this > > >> subject ? > > > > > > Well no one added it to the file that lists the repositories we release, > > > so it didn't get processed. > > > > > > Please people if you say "yes this will be part of the release" you need > > > to add it to the modules.git, otherwise it's not part of the release.> > > So this is the responsibility of the app developer and not the release > > team? > > No, it's not the responsibility of the app developer. > > It's the responsibility of whoever here in the name of this release service > team says "yes, we will include it in the release", searching at the emails > regarding Elisa in this list I'm not even sure we had a proper discussion > about including it (the email thread i can find is for some reason cut), > but hey I'm not opening that can of worms. Thanks for stepping up and fixing things. Sorry, if the discussion was not clear enough to get that handled correctly. > > Can you point me to the repo in question so I can do it, if it > > hasn't already been done? > > It's in the same place [almost] all the release service tools are in > > https://cgit.kde.org/sysadmin/release-tools.git > > Cheers, > Albert > > P.S: Note that URL will break at some point since it seems people want to > kill cgit > > Nate Best regards
Elisa application
Hello, Through the messages on kde-devel, I noticed that Elisa did not get the release/19.12 branch created. As far as I had understood, Elisa would be part of the release service starting with the 19.12 release. Should I do or fix things to help on this subject ? Best regards -- Matthieu
Re: [sysadmin/repo-metadata] projects/kde/kdemultimedia/elisa: move elisa from extragear to kdemultimedia
On Monday, September 30, 2019 10:39:44 AM CEST Luigi Toscano wrote: > Harald Sitter ha scritto: > > Git commit aa82b36fa41524db4b7c50622ed46ccdd322a6c5 by Harald Sitter. > > Committed on 30/09/2019 at 08:26. > > Pushed by sitter into branch 'master'. > > > > move elisa from extragear to kdemultimedia > > > > as agreed upon on the release, mm and elisa mailing lists. > > > > @i18n: Please move translations accordingly > > @release-team: Please note that elisa should be part of 19.12 > > Matthieu, do you still plan further releases from the current stable branch, > 0.4? If you do, I'd like to ask to revert this change until the deadline > for adding stuff to Applications 19.12, because otherwise I'm not sure how > to handle this on the translation side. I am indeed working on some fixes that could be applied to the stable branch. At the moment, there are also some problems in the stable branch that are not reproducible on master and I am not sure when I will be able to fix them but they would be blocking for a new bugfix release (infinite qml binding loops). I would say that at the moment, the probability of a new release is very low and could be worked around via packaging patches (not ideal but could work). What do you think ? > (hopefully with the redefinition of KDE Applications all those issues will > end) Best regards
Re: Elisa Music Player and KDE Applications Bundle
On Friday, September 27, 2019 4:42:58 AM CEST Michael Pyne wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 08:35:05PM +0200, Matthieu Gallien wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Sorry for my very late answer. > > > > On Friday, August 2, 2019 2:31:21 AM CEST Michael Pyne wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 02:55:16PM -0600, Nate Graham wrote: > > > > On 7/28/19 3:06 AM, Matthieu Gallien wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > After discussion in Elisa mailing list, we would like to know if it > > > > > would be possible to integrate Elisa in the KDE Applications > > > > > Multimedia > > > > > module. > > > > > > > > > > We hope that would allow to have more regular and predictable > > > > > releases > > > > > for > > > > > Elisa. That should help potential contributors know when their > > > > > contribution > > > > > will be released to users. > > > > > > > > > > We would use the KDE Applications version to lower the maintenance > > > > > burden. > > > > > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > As the maintainer of one of the existing KDE Multimedia applications, I > > > think it would be a fine idea to integrate Elisa, if nothing else to > > > help add some vitality to the overall suite of multimedia apps. > > > > Maybe we could also ask the promo team some help here ? > > It could help, but as with everything we do, we would also need to have > the time and willingness to be able to describe to promo team what we'd > want to achieve, and how we'd be able to help to achieve that > (improvements to the app, helping to build a strong user community, or > whatever). > You are true, I am sure I will lack time to contribute as much as I would like to. On the other hand, it could be nice to at least try to list multimedia projects needing contributors and try to communicate on that. We could try regular (every two weeks sounds possible) blogs about what happen in the multimedia world of KDE. I can volunteer to try that if I get help on what projects I should look at. [...] Best regards -- Matthieu
Re: Elisa Music Player and KDE Applications Bundle
Hello, On Friday, September 27, 2019 12:55:34 PM CEST Harald Sitter wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 4:43 AM Michael Pyne wrote: > > So I found the page I was thinking of, at > > https://community.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle > > > > If I'm understanding it right, the fact that Elisa is in Extragear means > > it's already been through the review and incubation process described > > at the link above. That would mean the only 'permission' needed would be > > the module coordinator for the module you'd want to join > > (kde-multimedia, here). > > > > So the question is "who's the coordinator"... and I'm not entirely sure! > > I think Harald Sitter has been most active, between Phonon and other > > multimedia components, but I don't know if we've even needed a > > coordinator recently. If Harald volunteers I'll defer to him. If not I > > think we should email release-team@kde.org and I can volunteer to help > > with shepherding over into kde-multimedia. > > I was at a point in time, maybe I got demoted ^^ You are absolutely > right that we never need coordination though. > In any event: +1 from me > > If there's no objections I'll move Elisa to kde/multimedia next week. > Next release would then be 18.12 That would be really nice. Thank you for your help. > HS Best regards -- Matthieu
Re: Elisa Music Player and KDE Applications Bundle
Hello, Sorry for my very late answer. On Friday, August 2, 2019 2:31:21 AM CEST Michael Pyne wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 02:55:16PM -0600, Nate Graham wrote: > > On 7/28/19 3:06 AM, Matthieu Gallien wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > After discussion in Elisa mailing list, we would like to know if it > > > would be possible to integrate Elisa in the KDE Applications Multimedia > > > module. > > > > > > We hope that would allow to have more regular and predictable releases > > > for > > > Elisa. That should help potential contributors know when their > > > contribution > > > will be released to users. > > > > > > We would use the KDE Applications version to lower the maintenance > > > burden. > > > > > > What do you think ? > > As the maintainer of one of the existing KDE Multimedia applications, I > think it would be a fine idea to integrate Elisa, if nothing else to > help add some vitality to the overall suite of multimedia apps. Maybe we could also ask the promo team some help here ? Thanks for your support. > I haven't been able to run Elisa yet but it's already in Extragear and > being actively developed so I think this would be mostly the matter of > integrating it into KDE Applications releases. > > Does anyone know if there are additional review requirements for modules > to go from Extragear to Applications? I was not able to come to Akademy and I am not sure I have understood the plan for the releases of applications made by KDE. Is something needed to do to integrate Elisa in the future coordinated releases ? Can I help achieve that ? > Regards, > - Michael Pyne Best regards
Re: KDE Frameworks 5.47.0
On mercredi 6 juin 2018 23:10:52 CEST Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El dimecres, 6 de juny de 2018, a les 12:55:15 CEST, Jonathan Riddell va > > escriure: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2018 at 09:57:08PM +0200, David Faure wrote: > > > Dear packagers, > > > > > > KDE Frameworks 5.47.0 has been uploaded to the usual place. > > > > KFileMetaData continues not to compile > > That was already discussed and it's because you're using an old ffmpeg, > right? > > Matthieu did you not commit that patch to make it clear a newer version is > needed? Yes but I failed to understand that the FindFFmpeg.cmake was not able to check the version. I have now open https://phabricator.kde.org/D13302 that just uses the new API if one has a newer FFmpeg or uses the old API. This should definitely solve the problem. I am sorry for not having understood that was the only feasible solution. > Cheers, > Albert > > > Jonathan Best regards -- Matthieu Gallien
Re: Question About kde-review and release schedule
Hello, 2017-02-26 23:04 GMT+01:00 Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org>: > > El dissabte, 25 de febrer de 2017, a les 10:43:47 CET, Matthieu Gallien va > escriure: > > Hello dear release team and kde multimedia team, > > > > I was hoping to have my application (Elisa a simple music player integrated > > using Baloo) ready for a release with KDE Applications 17.04. I believe I am > > a bit late and need to finish one feature before being ready for review. > > Has your app being released at all? > > If you have never released it, I think it may be a better if you do a > standalone release first and once we see how the public reacts to it, suggests > improvements, etc. we can talk about including it for 17.08. > This is a good idea. You have got me thinking about what I am trying to achieve. Indeed, I would like to get feedback both from real usage and from users. One or several releases are a good way to achieve that. > > > > How should I proceed ? > > Should I wait for 17.08 release or can I continue to work on this feature > > even if review is ongoing ? > > I am quite confident I will have finished before the feature freeze date but > > I believe that review have to be done before that date. > > > > Do you have any advice or other information about the process I should > > follow ? > > https://community.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle is partially out of > date, but it still contains some valid information. > > I guess someone/somewhen should update it to be totally correct. I have a few questions related to this subject. How does one perform a release of a software that is in playground or extragear ? I want anyway to go through kde-review before any release can happen. Do you believe it could be possible to do releases very often (like every two weeks) ? I could ensure no UI labels are changing so that translators are not doing extra work. In order to have bug reporting through bugs.kde.org, I have to fill a ticket to sysadmin ? I have not been able to find a sort of policy about that. > > Cheers, > Albert > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Best regards > > > > -- > > Matthieu Gallien > > Best regards -- Matthieu Gallien
Question About kde-review and release schedule
Hello dear release team and kde multimedia team, I was hoping to have my application (Elisa a simple music player integrated using Baloo) ready for a release with KDE Applications 17.04. I believe I am a bit late and need to finish one feature before being ready for review. How should I proceed ? Should I wait for 17.08 release or can I continue to work on this feature even if review is ongoing ? I am quite confident I will have finished before the feature freeze date but I believe that review have to be done before that date. Do you have any advice or other information about the process I should follow ? Thanks in advance Best regards -- Matthieu Gallien
