Re: [Repeater-Builder] RCA power supply ID?

2005-07-18 Thread Paul Kelley
On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:27 pm, Neil McKie wrote:
   More - found it !!!

Indeed you did !!  Thanks Neil, I appreciate it.  I thought 
this was going to be tough to identify from the limited 
info I had, but you nailed it.

That tells me what I need to know for now.  

Is there an easily copyable schematic?  Might be nice to 
have in case it ever breaks.  It's a very simple supply, 
but ya gotta love that RCA wiring color code... g

Paul






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Fred Fitte
Gents,

Recently (May 2005) two young ham radio operators in my town, 
each of whom drove retired New York State Police cruisers
they had purchased at state auction were questioned and given
a hard time by both the local county Sheriff and several State Police
officers. 


Both are amateur radio operators and had numerous antennas for the ham
bands. On occasion they also operated KR 10 SP 24 Ghz radar units. The
Sheriff tried to tell them it was illegal for a non-police officer to have a
radar unit in their car (which is not true at all). 


The New York State Police made an inquiry of the FCC regarding their
operation of the radar units. 


As an ARRL Assistant Director and retired law enforcement officer who also
taught radio communication in the academy, I became curious and involved as
I mentored both hams helping them get their tickets.



GRANTED, they are wanna be's and I in fact did suggest they fly under the
radar (sic), but being young like we all were at one time, they flew above
it a little.  I knew they would most likely get stopped and questioned,
however as long as they wee not stopping anyone, they were legal. 


On a hunch I called Riley Hollingsworth and you guessed it, the NYSP in fact
did call him regarding the radar operation. I met with Riley at Dayton and
we had a chat regarding the issues and after several weeks, I received an
email with a copy to the Director of Communications of the New York State
Police (who I know) that it is perfectly legal for a ham to run a radar unit
in a motor vehicle or anywhere as long as the frequency it operates on is in
the amateur band.


NOW..X band is just outside the ham bands, but K band 24.150 Mhz if one
checks, is a shared allocation by hams and police. The FCC confirmed that K
band is not exclusive to the Police. I am aware of some X band units that in
fact have been  retuned into the 10 Ghz ham band by radar techs.


What the real problem  was here is the that two  are 20 years old, they had
cops toys and the cops did not like it. They got the usual treatment because
they were young.


The bottom line is that it is perfectly legal for a non-police officer to
run a radar unit mobile AND if the 10 Ghz in not tuned for the ham bands, it
is an FCC issue, NOT a POLICE issue. There is no probable cause to stop a
motorist, just because there is a radar unit on the dash.



Both have since sold their Crown Vics because they got tired of the unwanted
attention by the Police who had nothing better to do with their time. 

I took it upon myself to email the Lt. in the Sheriff's Dept. who had been
ordered to inspect the cars by the Sheriff and advise him of the FCC
response. He never acknowledged my email. Guess I took away all of their
fun. 


Fred
WA2MMX






-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank R. Vondra
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas

As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
ham card as a defense.
Frank - WB0QQK


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I 
cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as 
a  cop car... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. 
Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there 
may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story.
Lance N2HBA









 
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[Repeater-Builder] WTB 406-420 GE MII or MVP

2005-07-18 Thread ktvl_tv
Hello need some ge master II or MVP 406-420 radios for a new link being 
built in southern Oregon  N Ca. Willing to pay up to $100 each. If 
some one has master II stations we can also talk...20-40watts ok 
(MVP),  but if possible 75 watt Master II prefuredthanks, chris  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RCA power supply ID?

2005-07-18 Thread Neil McKie

  A photocopy should run about $2.00 overall.  

  I will need your snail mail address however ... 

  Neil 

Paul Kelley wrote:
 
 On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:27 pm, Neil McKie wrote:
More - found it !!!
 
 Indeed you did !!  Thanks Neil, I appreciate it.  I thought
 this was going to be tough to identify from the limited
 info I had, but you nailed it.
 
 That tells me what I need to know for now.
 
 Is there an easily copyable schematic?  Might be nice to
 have in case it ever breaks.  It's a very simple supply,
 but ya gotta love that RCA wiring color code... g
 
 Paul






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Semi Off Topic - Want Cushman Manual

2005-07-18 Thread John Burch
Wanted - original paper manual (or excellent 
full-sized photocopy) for Cushman CE-4
service monitor.

Would also like to find the manual for the
Cushman model 317 plug-in.

Thanks de John
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Semi Off Topic - Want Cushman Manual

2005-07-18 Thread Neil McKie

  Can't help you with the CE-4 manual ... but what is a 317 plug-in? 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


John Burch wrote:
 
 Wanted - original paper manual (or excellent
 full-sized photocopy) for Cushman CE-4
 service monitor.
 
 Would also like to find the manual for the
 Cushman model 317 plug-in.
 
 Thanks de John
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: motorola moxys

2005-07-18 Thread Al Wolfe
 As others have mentioned, the Moxy was the bottom of the barrel 
Motorola radio. They came out about thirty years ago to compete with the 
rice boxes that were showing up in commercial service.
They may be OK for playing garage repeater or maybe even some linking, 
but I don't think I would allow them at any of my commercial sites.

73,
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[Repeater-Builder] 1994 MRT Article on SpectraTAC Mods?

2005-07-18 Thread Bruce Jordan
In the February 1994 issue of MRT there was an article by Carl
Ebinger of the Dade County Radio Shop who made some interesting
claims about improving the performace of the SpectraTAC systems used
by Dade Co. EMS. His article claimed that he could improve the
performance of the SQM by the addition of $0.25 (1994$) in parts to
each SQM. He described how there was too much voice getting into
the noise detection circuitry which was causing falsing.

Unfortunately, when I tried to track the details down [circuit left
out of article] I found that Carl was a Silent Key and, thus out of
range. Talking to several others in the shop, including Susie and
Joe Harper, did not lead me to the schematic of the modification.
Carl had been working with TRN6091A SQMs so I am wondering if
Motorola incorporated his improvements into later revision SQMs.

Before I begin badgering the Dade County Radio Shop again I thought
I would ask here if any of you were familiar with the article and
Carl's work.

He did say that he improved performance by removing JU-6 and
installing JU-5 in the secondary line drivers of the three
subcomparators. This shortened the Status Tone return delay from
550 msec to 90 msec which improved weak signal noise detector
falsing at the master comparator.

Thanks,

Bruce
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] motorola moxys

2005-07-18 Thread Michael Haddix
The Moxy,Maxar,and Maxar80 are all the same chassis
only with minor differences from each other. The
Motorola Flexar desktop repeater was made out of the
transmitter side of the Maxar chassis and the receiver
was the receiver side of the maxar. Each chassis was
mounted in different boxes for isolation. I ran one of
these on the GMRS band for nearly 20yrs before
lightning took it out.
Slap a controller of your choice between two of them
and a decent duplexer and go to town!
Mike n9wzx




--- Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Good point !! 
 
   Neil
 
 
 Tim S. wrote:
  
  Go for it.  I built my first repeater using moxys.
  It worked well and sounded good.
  
  It's a great learning experience.  Get in there
 and tinker around and figure stuff out.  That's what
 ameatur radio is all about.
  
  -Tim
  
  
  kb9qbt wrote:
  
   To the group,
  
   This is my first post but have been a member
 for a while.
  
   I managed to get a hold of couple of motorola
 moxys uhf I think.
  
   Is it possiable to convert them to 440 and
 using both set them up as
   a repeater. I know I would need some type of
 controller, this my first
   venture into repeater setup so my question to
 the group.
  
   Is this a worthwhile endeavor or will I be
 spinning my wheels?
  
   Thanks in advance for your help.
  
   Dan
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra-Tac Voter

2005-07-18 Thread Bruce Jordan
Kevin,

Did you try the SpectrTAC Yahoo List?  You might get a better response 
there.  I personally know at least one fellow locally who has done 
what you describe and he monitors that list now and then.

Bruce

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 I am contemplating putting a Motorola Spectra-Tac voting system
 on one of the systems I am responsible for. Has anyone else
 installed one of these in it's native form (constant 2175Hz on
 the RF links)? I know there is the requirement to ID each link
 every 10 minutes. Or has someone modified the SQM's to
 respond to a COR signal rather than the absence of the 2175
 Hz tone? I am just in the very early stages at this point, but
 thought I would do some fact finding work. Thanks for any
 input and 73,
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Riley Frazee
I have a suburban 1997 white with 6 antennas for Ham radio rigs and a UHF 
radio for Med Chs. I am also the Asst. EMS Director with an ambulance 
service and have flashing lights.  the State Police here in CO have hassled 
me about my suburban. To have lights you must possess an Authorized 
Emergency Vehicle Sticker and be certified by the State of CO. I have this 
Sticker and there is nothing that they can do. The State patrol that lives 
in our town has been caught several times uptown running me into the ground 
about my antennas and my lights that he can do nothing about.  So. Just to 
make things better I Got a dog cage and put in the back of the suburban to 
keep my Yellow lab in when we go camping/fishing etc. I tell you what they 
Local State Patrolman has had a fit. the local PD and Sheriff are ok with it 
they are who gave me lights. and emergency equipment.  I only run the lights 
to calls and in emergency situations the antennas are all used for Ham radio 
and except the one for UHF Med Radio and one for 800 Digital Scanner.  All 
of which I can have. I did not know this problem was this widespread until 
reading about the NC man.  Stay strong and fight them..

From: Fred Fitte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop 
car' due to ham antennas
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:02:06 -0400

Gents,

Recently (May 2005) two young ham radio operators in my town,
each of whom drove retired New York State Police cruisers
they had purchased at state auction were questioned and given
a hard time by both the local county Sheriff and several State Police
officers.


Both are amateur radio operators and had numerous antennas for the ham
bands. On occasion they also operated KR 10 SP 24 Ghz radar units. The
Sheriff tried to tell them it was illegal for a non-police officer to have 
a
radar unit in their car (which is not true at all).


The New York State Police made an inquiry of the FCC regarding their
operation of the radar units.


As an ARRL Assistant Director and retired law enforcement officer who also
taught radio communication in the academy, I became curious and involved as
I mentored both hams helping them get their tickets.



GRANTED, they are wanna be's and I in fact did suggest they fly under the
radar (sic), but being young like we all were at one time, they flew above
it a little.  I knew they would most likely get stopped and questioned,
however as long as they wee not stopping anyone, they were legal.


On a hunch I called Riley Hollingsworth and you guessed it, the NYSP in 
fact
did call him regarding the radar operation. I met with Riley at Dayton and
we had a chat regarding the issues and after several weeks, I received an
email with a copy to the Director of Communications of the New York State
Police (who I know) that it is perfectly legal for a ham to run a radar 
unit
in a motor vehicle or anywhere as long as the frequency it operates on is 
in
the amateur band.


NOW..X band is just outside the ham bands, but K band 24.150 Mhz if one
checks, is a shared allocation by hams and police. The FCC confirmed that K
band is not exclusive to the Police. I am aware of some X band units that 
in
fact have been  retuned into the 10 Ghz ham band by radar techs.


What the real problem  was here is the that two  are 20 years old, they had
cops toys and the cops did not like it. They got the usual treatment 
because
they were young.


The bottom line is that it is perfectly legal for a non-police officer to
run a radar unit mobile AND if the 10 Ghz in not tuned for the ham bands, 
it
is an FCC issue, NOT a POLICE issue. There is no probable cause to stop a
motorist, just because there is a radar unit on the dash.



Both have since sold their Crown Vics because they got tired of the 
unwanted
attention by the Police who had nothing better to do with their time.

I took it upon myself to email the Lt. in the Sheriff's Dept. who had been
ordered to inspect the cars by the Sheriff and advise him of the FCC
response. He never acknowledged my email. Guess I took away all of their
fun.


Fred
WA2MMX






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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank R. Vondra
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas

As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
ham card as a defense.
Frank - WB0QQK


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[Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread XE2SI





I asked this to the S-Com site, but no answer yet, 
hope
somebody give some ligth here: I have a S-Com 7K controller 

with Version 2.03 ( think is the latest firmware ), my 
question
is if it can handle two repeaters separated with their own 
timers
and ID's, can't find anything related in the 
manual.

Thanks
Juan XE2SI














  




  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Simulcast High Band Micor

2005-07-18 Thread n6icw
Is there high precision channel element for simulcasting a micor
transmitter. I have a heated micor 800 kxn1071a and since it is 12 mhz
based trying to figure if there is away to get Bowan to cut one for
high  band.  Yes Skipp I could just net the transmitters.  :-)

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcast High Band Micor

2005-07-18 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
There's not a high-stab channel element per se, but Micor PURC (paging)
stations used an external high-stability or ultra-high-stability oscillator
for simulcast operations.  These were external rack-mount units.  A special
channel element plugs into the exciter that has two pigtails on it - one for
audio (coming from the exciter to the UHSO), and the other for modulated RF
(coming from the UHSO into the exciter).

I have some (both complete stations as well as spare UHSO's) if you're
interested.

--- Jeff


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 Is there high precision channel element for simulcasting a micor
 transmitter. I have a heated micor 800 kxn1071a and since it is 12 mhz
 based trying to figure if there is away to get Bowan to cut one for
 high  band.  Yes Skipp I could just net the transmitters.  :-)
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek VHF mobile tx question

2005-07-18 Thread na6df
OK, Mitrek experts:

On a properly tuned mobile VHF Mitrek transmitter, what is the tx 
noise likely to be? In other words, how far down is it 600khz away, in 
case I were to use one as a transmitter in a repeater situation? (not 
a duplexed mitrek, just as a transmitter)

I appreciate the help, thanks!

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Frank R. Vondra wrote:

 As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
 veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
 photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
 I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
 MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
 it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
 the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
 with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
 ham card as a defense.
 Frank - WB0QQK

I *believe* the K-55 is the unit that is no longer accepted for 
law-enforcement speed use. I know there was one older 10Ghz unit that 
was very unreliable-it would indicate various speeds in reaction to 
things like blower motors in the car, etc. So I don't believe any dept 
should still be using them. I know NO ONE here in NE Ohio that uses 
10Ghz radar anymore.
My father was pulled over by a local dept many years ago. While sitting 
on the side of the road, with no other vehicles in sight, the radar unit 
indicted abt 35 mph. When the radiator fan on my fathers '81 Escort 
stopped (it would run at any time, even with the ignition shut off), the 
radar went to zero. They were told to junk all of those units (he worked 
for the company that cal'd them for that city). Would you believe they 
tried to get him again more than a year later with the same unit???
I don't know for sure if it was a K55, but I do know it was 10Ghz.

-- 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Rich Garcia
MPH units were dogs... I know I repaired and recertified them for several
years. At least in FL X band (10 GHz) was
not valid even before 1993. I am saying that I THINK X band was out of the
picture nationwide at that time but I never saw it in
writing so I cant bet my life on it.

I too was in Law Enforcement till' I learned how much better the pay was in
electronics and I got tired of the BS lawsuits all the time.
There are a lot of good natured people out there that can go over board with
what we call wannabe stuff and there are others
that are just looking for trouble. Yes that was a MPH on the dashboard, yes
the antennas, the radar and the car did make it like an
unmarked car. Does this justify a tongue lashing ? Yes, trial or even a
ticket no... If he is looking for trouble continue with the MPH on the
dashboard, but if not put it away and continue on, if he get's hassled again
then it actually is unfair BUT looking at the whole picture the K-55 on the
dash did put it over the edge in my eyes 10 GHz allocation or not.

I just had to put my 2 cents in sorry but I think even though amusing
discussion it's way off topic for this long of a thread.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B.
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a
cop car' due to ham antennas


Frank R. Vondra wrote:

 As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
 veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
 photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
 I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
 MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
 it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
 the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
 with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
 ham card as a defense.
 Frank - WB0QQK

I *believe* the K-55 is the unit that is no longer accepted for
law-enforcement speed use. I know there was one older 10Ghz unit that
was very unreliable-it would indicate various speeds in reaction to
things like blower motors in the car, etc. So I don't believe any dept
should still be using them. I know NO ONE here in NE Ohio that uses
10Ghz radar anymore.
My father was pulled over by a local dept many years ago. While sitting
on the side of the road, with no other vehicles in sight, the radar unit
indicted abt 35 mph. When the radiator fan on my fathers '81 Escort
stopped (it would run at any time, even with the ignition shut off), the
radar went to zero. They were told to junk all of those units (he worked
for the company that cal'd them for that city). Would you believe they
tried to get him again more than a year later with the same unit???
I don't know for sure if it was a K55, but I do know it was 10Ghz.

--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Jim B.
Jim B. wrote:
  So I don't believe any dept
 should still be using them. I know NO ONE here in NE Ohio that uses 
 10Ghz radar anymore.

I should add that they don't use 10Ghz units for issuing tickets anymore...

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 12:33 PM 7/18/05, you wrote:

I asked this to the S-Com site, but no answer yet, hope
somebody give some ligth here: I have a S-Com 7K controller
with Version 2.03 ( think is the latest firmware ),

Latest is 2.04

my question
is if it can handle two repeaters separated with their own timers
and ID's, can't find anything related in the manual.

Thanks
Juan XE2SI

Unfortunately no.

The 7K was designed as a single repeater controller with an
autopatch, a link (the second radio port), and a control
receiver/aux audio source.  Like the 6K and the 5K it was only
intended to manage a single repeater.

A new model is in the works (tentatively called the
7330) - it will be a true three port repeater controller, with
three touchtone decoders, three telemetry generators
(i.e courtesy beeps, etc), full crosspoint switching, and the
design is expandable to more ports.  Each port can be
configured to be a repeater (i.e. full duplex with audio loopback),
a point-to-point link (full or half duplex with no audio loopback),
a remote base (half duplex, no loopback, and possibly frequency
agility), or a control receiver.

What are you trying to do?  Let us know, there may be a way
to do it...

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread Russ Stafford





I had an older 7K and` I had the 222 
repeater on port one and 440 on port 2 the worked just fine stand alone then I 
would link them on net night.
73 Russ,


  - Original Message - 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:33 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 7K 
  controller
  
  I asked this to the S-Com site, but no answer yet, 
  hope
  somebody give some ligth here: I have a S-Com 7K controller 
  
  with Version 2.03 ( think is the latest firmware ), my 
  question
  is if it can handle two repeaters separated with their own 
  timers
  and ID's, can't find anything related in the 
  manual.
  
  Thanks
  Juan XE2SI
  
  
  

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[Repeater-Builder] TLN4666A Schematic

2005-07-18 Thread cpitre_01
I am looking for a schematic for the tln4666a backplane.  If any one 
has one or knows where I can get one please let me know.  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread XE2SI





Hello MIke:
I am trying to use the controller in two repeaters , now we 
have 
them with one port controller and the two repeaters "in 
paralell",
I have some of the outputs of the controller to turn one or 
the other
off/on, If there is no easy way, think it will be going for 
sale, it has 
the autopatch, voice board, and manual;thanks 
.

Juan, XE2SI

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mike Morris 
  WA6ILQ 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K 
  controller
  At 12:33 PM 7/18/05, you wrote:I asked this to the 
  S-Com site, but no answer yet, hopesomebody give some ligth here: I 
  have a S-Com 7K controllerwith Version 2.03 ( think is the latest 
  firmware ),Latest is 2.04my questionis if it can 
  handle two repeaters separated with their own timersand ID's, can't 
  find anything related in the manual.ThanksJuan 
  XE2SIUnfortunately no.The 7K was designed as a single repeater 
  controller with anautopatch, a link (the second radio port), and a 
  controlreceiver/aux audio source. Like the 6K and the 5K it was 
  onlyintended to manage a single repeater.A new model is in the 
  works (tentatively called the7330) - it will be a true three port repeater 
  controller, withthree touchtone decoders, three telemetry 
  generators(i.e courtesy beeps, etc), full crosspoint switching, and 
  thedesign is expandable to more ports. Each port can 
  beconfigured to be a repeater (i.e. full duplex with audio loopback),a 
  point-to-point link (full or half duplex with no audio loopback),a remote 
  base (half duplex, no loopback, and possibly frequencyagility), or a 
  control receiver.What are you trying to do? Let us know, there 
  may be a wayto do it...Mike 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLN4666A Schematic

2005-07-18 Thread Neil McKie

  The assumption here you are looking at an early Micor Station. 
 You seemed to have forgotten to mention this tiny piece of look up 
 information. 

  That said, I do have the circuit board layout diagram for the 
 TLN4666A mother board. 

  What would you like to know about the TLN4666A mother board? 

  Neil - WA6KLA ... in Oregon ... 


cpitre_01 wrote:
 
 I am looking for a schematic for the tln4666a backplane.  If any 
 one has one or knows where I can get one please let me know.
 
 Chris






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Morris
The problem is that there is one timeout timer, one
carrier delay (hang-in) timer, one identifier, and
one you get the idea.

Yes, you can connect two repeaters to it, and they will
repeat, but it's really obvious that the 7K wasn't designed
for the job.

I'd keep it and get a second, put one 7K on each repeater,
and cable the two port #2s together allowing them to link
to each other at will.  Been there, done that.

Or get a true multiport controller.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 03:00 PM 7/18/05, you wrote:

Hello MIke:
I am trying to use the controller in two repeaters , now we have
them with one port controller and the two repeaters in paralell,
I have some of the outputs of the controller to turn one or the other
off/on, If there is no easy way, think it will be going for sale, it has
the autopatch, voice board, and manual; thanks .

Juan, XE2SI
- Original Message -
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

At 12:33 PM 7/18/05, you wrote:

 I asked this to the S-Com site, but no answer yet, hope
 somebody give some ligth here: I have a S-Com 7K controller
 with Version 2.03 ( think is the latest firmware ),

Latest is 2.04

 my question
 is if it can handle two repeaters separated with their own timers
 and ID's, can't find anything related in the manual.
 
 Thanks
 Juan XE2SI

Unfortunately no.

The 7K was designed as a single repeater controller with an
autopatch, a link (the second radio port), and a control
receiver/aux audio source.  Like the 6K and the 5K it was only
intended to manage a single repeater.

A new model is in the works (tentatively called the
7330) - it will be a true three port repeater controller, with
three touchtone decoders, three telemetry generators
(i.e courtesy beeps, etc), full crosspoint switching, and the
design is expandable to more ports.  Each port can be
configured to be a repeater (i.e. full duplex with audio loopback),
a point-to-point link (full or half duplex with no audio loopback),
a remote base (half duplex, no loopback, and possibly frequency
agility), or a control receiver.

What are you trying to do?  Let us know, there may be a way
to do it...

Mike WA6ILQ






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[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Coy Hilton
The problem is selective enforcement AND too much spare time on 
their hands. Instead of horassing thoes who would help them in a 
time of need, they should be nailing drunk driver and putting then 
in jail. I just watched a Sherrif Deputy sitting at an intersection 
and about 10 cars ran the STOP signs at the four way stop. What was 
he doing, playing with his thumbs.

I think it is also a POWER thing I worked with the local PD for ten 
years and nearly all of them was on a power trip.

Don't get me wrong, I support law enforcement, but a lot of them 
need to chill out a bit.
73  



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Frank R. Vondra 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
 veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
 photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
 I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
 MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
 it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
 the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
 with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
 ham card as a defense.
 Frank - WB0QQK
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, 
I 
 cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived 
as 
 a  cop car... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. 
 Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that 
there 
 may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wanted / WTB GE Master II

2005-07-18 Thread Coy Hilton
no.. no...no...BHF is the band just to the right of VHF and just to 
the left of NHF and just below GHF and just above SPACEyou now  
THE FINAL FROUNTIER.;-)
73


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 Neil,
 
 BHF is Bragging Here in Florida, hi.
 
 I'm also looking for VHF as well as UHF.
 
 73, ron, n9ee/r
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-18 Thread Mark A. Holman
Now the truth comes out ! Playing Wannabe cop, we just had a similar problem 
with a turkey who so far I know a non-ham over in Ottawa County, he just got 
busted.  I was on the phone one day with State Dispatch about an issue and I 
asked about the phoney cop case  I also advised them about some 3 guys from 
Illinois in a Blue Caprice,  needless to say Starsky, Hutch and tag along 
was seen no more!

and every time someone ask me I said Ham Radio Operator look at my plate 
AB8RU  Amateur Operator to help identify that. what on a 94 Dodge Shadow ? 
yeah right and I am about to hook up my Stereo as soon as the new harness is 
in the mailbox.  check my web site I put it there also.

Mark A. Holman  AB8RU ARRL Life Member
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Frank R. Vondra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:39 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' 
due to ham antennas


 As an amateur radio operator and 30 year law enforcement
 veteran, I agree with you Lance. After blowing up the
 photo of the 1995 Caprice displayed on the jars webpage,
 I'm somewhat curious to know why the defendant has an
 MPH K-55 mobile radar unit mounted on the dash? I'm sure
 it's not for chasing DX on 10,525 mHz. Seems to me that
 the police and prosecutor are probably on the same page
 with this case and the arrestee is trying to play the
 ham card as a defense.
 Frank - WB0QQK


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I
 cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as
 a  cop car... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all.
 Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there
 may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story.
 Lance N2HBA










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Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wanted / WTB GE Master II

2005-07-18 Thread Mark A. Holman
I think I like the BoHemienan Frequency idea :)  I guess we will have to 
figgure out a band  submit it to the next IARU Conference 07 I think isn't 
it ?
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wanted / WTB GE Master II


 no.. no...no...BHF is the band just to the right of VHF and just to
 the left of NHF and just below GHF and just above SPACEyou now
 THE FINAL FROUNTIER.;-)
 73


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Neil,

 BHF is Bragging Here in Florida, hi.

 I'm also looking for VHF as well as UHF.

 73, ron, n9ee/r





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: motorola moxys

2005-07-18 Thread Bob Dengler
At 7/17/2005 12:01 PM, you wrote:

   Is it true the GE Custom MVP radio ... MVP meant
  Missing Valuable Parts?

   Neil - WA6KLA

Compared to the Mastr II, the MVP is missing:

- 2 poles of IF filtering (8 vs. 10).  IF board is the same though, so 
adding it back in is fairly easy.

- 1 4.7 uF capacitor on pin 13 of the squelch IC (put it back  your MVP 
has fast squelch like a Mastr II mobile).

That's it AFAIK.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: TLN4666A Schematic

2005-07-18 Thread cpitre_01
I need to know where the voltages are,  and yes it is an older Micor 
station. It has a ribbon type cable on it. Could you scan it and 
email it to me? Also is there a specific station control module for 
the older type?  I tried a tln4635b and it did not work. 

Chris

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
   The assumption here you are looking at an early Micor Station. 
  You seemed to have forgotten to mention this tiny piece of look 
up 
  information. 
 
   That said, I do have the circuit board layout diagram for the 
  TLN4666A mother board. 
 
   What would you like to know about the TLN4666A mother board? 
 
   Neil - WA6KLA ... in Oregon ... 
 
 
 cpitre_01 wrote:
  
  I am looking for a schematic for the tln4666a backplane.  If any 
  one has one or knows where I can get one please let me know.
  
  Chris
 








 
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[Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver

2005-07-18 Thread cpitre_01
I was wondering if anyone has the tuning instructions for the older 
Micor receiver.not the mobile.

VE3CTP








 
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[Repeater-Builder] UHF Motran base MSB / MSY

2005-07-18 Thread Paul Kelley
Aha!  I think I've identified my dinosaur remains as some 
version of Motran base/repeater.  That's a start.  I still 
can't determine exactly which receiver and transmitter I 
have.  I assume there were a few variations.

Anybody got a manual for something like this that they would 
part with?  Or possibly copy some relevant sections?

Anybody got some of these things collecting dust that parts 
could be harvested from?  I have a [mostly] working unit 
but I'm missing some shields, etc.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 7K controller

2005-07-18 Thread scomind






Hi Juan,

Your e-mail address was bouncing messages back to Yahoogroups so it 
delisted you. I've reinstated your membership.

The 7K can operate two repeatersby tying a second repeater to the 
link port. It'll handle the CORs and PTTs,sendmessages to the proper 
TX (if the messages are composed correctly), and so on.

But the 7K isn'ta realmulti-repeater controller because it has 
just one DTMF decoder, one DTMF encoder, one CW/tone generator,and so 
on.Therepeater on the main port will have priority over the other 
when it comes tothose resources, so this scheme works best when the second 
repeater is a minor one.

The new 7xxx series is being designed specifically to handle multiple 
repeaters.Each repeater will have its ownresouces, and the software 
will allow either independent or linked operation.

73,
Bob


Bob Schmid, 
WA9FBO, MemberS-COM, LLCPO Box 1546LaPorte CO 
80535-1546970-416-6505 voice970-419-3222 
faxwww.scomcontrollers.com


I asked this to the S-Com site, but no answer yet, hope 
somebody give some ligth here: I have a S-Com 7K controller 
with Version 2.03 ( think is the latest firmware ), my 
question is if it can handle two repeaters separated with 
their own timers and ID's, can't find anything related in 
the manual.

Thanks
Juan XE2SI














  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] off topic : Jack Gerritsen ex kg6iro

2005-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I believe so, kg6iro was busted for jamming bell police dept and the califronia 
highway patrol, the fcc revoked his ham  grms licences
but it was over 1 year from his conviction date and he contested that the fcc 
did not act in a timely manner and stated his licences were still valid, and in 
protest he started broadcasting taped messages on all the local repeaters and 
on the linked systems it carried to several states. He also has done this to 
MARS and other services. one occasion he went in to the LA vets hospital and 
droped off one of his jamming packages, (a handheld and a tape recorder) the 
vet hosp police detained him and called the bomb squad to destroy the 
suspicious package, and they billed him for that action also. 

you can find more info on this guy at arrl.org 

.bob 

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[Repeater-Builder] Controller

2005-07-18 Thread Jimmy Floyd
Anyone have a manual for the S-Com  MRC- 100 controller in PDF or 
Need command structure to reprogram 

Thanks
Jimmy Floyd
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Re: [Repeater-Builder]Wanted / WTB GE Master II

2005-07-18 Thread Q
Naturally!

Coy Hilton wrote:

no.. no...no...BHF is the band just to the right of VHF and just to 
the left of NHF and just below GHF and just above SPACEyou now  
THE FINAL FROUNTIER.;-)
73



  

  






 
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