RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series 'Emergency'?

2005-08-09 Thread Kevin King
August 28 universal will release season 1 on DVD.

then you can study the 70's comm. systems of the LAFD. Just to keep it
repeater related.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick  Charlotte
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series
'Emergency'?


WOW that bring back mem's of the good ol days .. loved that show

to bad I have not been able to catch it in reruns :( ..

would love the whole sound track if I remember right there was a lot
of 'sound' before the voice came out ..

Rick

On 8 Aug 2005 at 21:52, Chuck Kelsey wrote:

 It's still yesterday in our area. These tones are in use daily to
 dispatch fire and rescue.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



   - Original Message -
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   Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series
   'Emergency'?


   I can still recall the tones like it was yesterday !  COOL ! 8-)

   mch wrote:
 It was Station 51, not 50.

 Joe M.

 Neil McKie wrote:
 http://www.policeinterceptor.com/sounds/sta050.wav

   Turn on your speakers ...

   Neil McKie






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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series 'Emergency'?

2005-08-09 Thread Neil McKie

MIKE BOYD wrote:
 
 http://emergency51.com/sounds.html
 
 --- Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
http://www.policeinterceptor.com/sounds/sta050.wav
 
 
Turn on your speakers ...
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series 'Emergency'?

2005-08-09 Thread Kevin King

A friend (AF4PX) will say EIEIO when I start talking too technical.
Something I do too often. So when I hear him call this out I know I have
starting going out in left field. Jokingly I have put it on my tag line.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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'Emergency'?


EIEIO 2722 ???

Kenneth Buley
Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2
Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6
Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES 

Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who
in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality.


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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series
'Emergency'?


August 28 universal will release season 1 on DVD.

then you can study the 70's comm. systems of the LAFD. Just to keep it
repeater related.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia







 
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[Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater and Gear for Auction

2005-08-09 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
I have noticed that a seller on ebay has a lot of 220 gear for sale

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=radiorescue123ssPageName=STRK:MEFS:MESOI

He has Duplexers, filters, radios and repeaters too...

May be one of the last calls for this type of gear in good shape.

Mitch KD4HTW






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKB-720 CTCSS tone input location

2005-08-09 Thread Hellewell, Byron
Hi
  Can anyone help me with the physical location of where to inject a
variable 
CTCSS tone into the Kenwood TKB-720 radio. 

  I do not have the schematic or manual just the connector pinout.
So a good description would help.

  I tried adding it to the audio being sent to the audio input pin in
the
accessory connector but it must be filtered as the tone does not get
thru.

  The repeater version (TKR-720) has another audio input pin 
but that pin is used for frequency selection in the TKB-720.

Thanks
Byron




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-09 Thread George Philips
Dear Glenn,

I would very much like to get a copy on CD.  Only wonder how I could
reimburse the expense of sending it to me.

I sent you a message direct to your address but did not receive a reply.
Hence this message.

73,

George, VU2GT.

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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:42 PM
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 I can send you a copy on CD if you want.

 73
 Glenn

 At 02:20 AM 08/06/05, you wrote:
 Hi chaps!  Greetings from India.
 
 Can anyone tell me whether this handbook is available in hard copy?  The
 thought of downloading 812 pages is a bit daunting.
 
 73,
 
 George, VU2GT
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding
 
 
   Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding
for
   Electronic Equipments and Facilities
http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
 ,
   this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two
volumes
   about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers
grounding
 for
   safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
 read
   and eye opener.
  
   73
   Glenn
   WB4UIV
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKB-720 CTCSS tone input location

2005-08-09 Thread skipp025

Accessory Connector Pin 3 is the DI Modulation 
input (both signaling and audio).  Pin 2 is the 
Line  mod inpug Ground GND. 

Pin 5 is the Line input, modulation input. 

good luck... 

skipp 
www.radiowrench.com 

 Hellewell, Byron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
   Can anyone help me with the physical location of where to inject a
 variable 
 CTCSS tone into the Kenwood TKB-720 radio. 
 
   I do not have the schematic or manual just the connector pinout.
 So a good description would help.
 
   I tried adding it to the audio being sent to the audio input pin in
 the
 accessory connector but it must be filtered as the tone does not get
 thru.
 
   The repeater version (TKR-720) has another audio input pin 
 but that pin is used for frequency selection in the TKB-720.
 
 Thanks
 Byron







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-09 Thread skipp025
I get to stick my neck out first again... 

I've cut out mucho and added some comments. 

  ... 6 Motorola MTR2000 100W repeaters, 

I'd probably Cut the repeater power output 
down a bit. Since you have narly antenna gain, 
I'd probably back the repeaters down to 80 
watts to possibly improve the unwanted products 
from the power amplifiers (which can be measured).

 Also part of the system are a factory tuned Telewave
 M101-150-6TRM TX Combiner 

Did you check the combiner for proper tuning? All 
is rarely plug and play in the real world. Trust 
but verify.

 (Cavity/Dual Isolator type), and a Sinclair
 RM201-112S1B RX Multicoupler fitted with a BP 
 Preselector (with 1MHz pass-band, and factory 
 tuned to 165.625), a Hi Level Bipolar preamp
 (Angle Linear brand / anglelinear.com), 

Crap, I just took a look at it. 
Not enough protection... by a long shot. You need 
to boot the 1 MHz band pass filter and get a real 
serious vhf preselection network. 

As mentioned before, you should also add some 
serious receiver protection in the transmit 
combiner side/path. 

 and a 12 port power divider.

Using 6 ports..?  Every other coax jack should be used 
to balance the internal dividers better and mo 
isolation. 

 Between the preamp output and the power divider there 
 is a 2dB pad fitted. 

Not good, the horse is already out of the barn... 

 Since we only use 6 output ports of the 12 available, the
 remaining ones have been fitted with 50-ohm terminators on them.

Should be every other port as I described above.

 Antenna system consists of two Decibel DB228 8-dipole 
 arrays, mounted on a 90ft self supporting tower. 

Nice... 

 RX antenna is at the top, TX is
 mounted from about mid-tower down. Vertical separation between
 antennas is not much due to tower height limitations, and each
 antenna's length, but each DB228 is mounted on a separate adjacent
 tower leg. Feedlines are 7/8 hardline running on separate tower legs

If the site is on a hill, you might do better with a bit more 
vertical seperation trade. Lower the tx antenna if possible. 
Increasing the vertical seperation from 45' to say... 65' will 
help a lot.

 up until the point where they start to get horizontal to be routed
 into the building next to the tower. At this point they run parallel
 to each other for about 40ft. 

Parallel as in right next to each other?  A big no-no even 
for 7/8 Hardline. The two lines had better be min 6 inches 
away from each other in the the inbound tray. 

 Combiner to repeater TX port jumpers are made of Belden 9913, 

From Telewave..? or you made them up?   You need to boot the 
9913 and use RG-214 min or 1/2 inch superflex hardline typical. 

 and between RX Multicoupler and RX ports we were using 100% 
 shield RG58.

Crap... boot the RG-58 right away. There is no real 100% 
shielded rg-58 that I've ever measured. 

  Since at least one person expressed concern over the usage 
 of said cables, we changed the RX jumpers to RG142. 

Most of the pro repeater sites out here also use RG-214 for 
the receiver side, unless they use hard line or older RG-9. 

 TESTS
 
 One of our first tests was to look at the combiner output with a
 spectrum analyzer trough a Lossy T. It looked pretty clean 
 with only two or three smaller peaks on the sides of the main 
 carrier, all between 40-50db down or more.

Not good enough... did you use any main signal notch cavities 
with the test set up described below?  You are not going to see 
the problem using what you describe above. 

Lunch takes me away (I like to eat)... more later on. 

cheers, 
skipp 






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT - Remember the TV Series 'Emergency'?

2005-08-09 Thread Jim B.
Chuck Kelsey wrote:

 It's still yesterday in our area. These tones are in use daily to
 dispatch fire and rescue.
 
 Chuck WB2EDV

Yup-most dept's around here don't trust anything else, ie numeric 
pagers, etc.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater and Gear for Auction

2005-08-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
Most of the commercial radios and repeaters in the 220 MHz band are
designed for amplitude-companded SSB (4K00J3E) operation and cannot be
economically converted to conventional FM (16K0F3E) operation.  I was
recently given an ESP1000 repeater made by SEA, Incorporated, that is in
mint condition.  I thought I had a valuable asset until I realized that
the only components I could possibly use were the chassis and front
panel.  Caveat Emptor!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Lloyd Mitchell wrote:

 I have noticed that a seller on ebay has a lot of 220 gear for sale

 http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=radiorescue123ssPageName=STRK:MEFS:MESOI


 He has Duplexers, filters, radios and repeaters too...  May be one of
 the last calls for this type of gear in good shape.






 
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