Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal

2006-12-14 Thread Chuck Kimball
The other way you could help rule out anything on that tower would be to 
get a list of the transmitters there and listen to their frequency and 
compare when you're hearing the interference.  Make take a day or two to 
get through them all, but that should help.

i.e.  Scanner or extra receiver tuned to example 151.085 at the :53 
transmission, nothing heard and no key up during that time, move on to 
the next frequency and listen at the :23 transmission, etc.  If the 
tower owner knows they are running a data specific type system that 
would be the one to start with.  If you don't want to bug him again, 
start with a search of the FCC database for those coordinates.
http://www.fcc.gov   click on search, etc.  You can enter the lat/lon 
and a radius around and list out the transmitters.

Chuck
n0nhj

Scott Overstreet wrote:
 Hello All
  
 Many thanks to all of you who have responded to my call for help in 
 identifing our Mystery Signal--all of your comments and especially 
 the signal analysis work done by Rodger, Nate, Joe and others are 
 helping with our task. Please keep up the effort as we have not found 
 our signal yet.
  
 Preliminary Doppler DF work has us surounding a large scale municiple 
 tower with what we have labled our area of uncertainitya half mile 
 diameter circle or so. Distant vectors from clear areas converge there 
 but close in vectors disperce in almost all directions apparently due to 
 reflections from tall buildings, cars, metel doors, roofs etc.. We are 
 now rounding up a team of experienced DF'ers with other techniques. I 
 have succeded in making contact with the guy that is responsible for the 
 Motorola gear on the towerhe says that our signal isn't comming from 
 any of his stuff but that there is other gear in the radio room and that 
 he will look it over while monitoring by service monitor---a start there.
  
  From your responses so far, it sounds like we may well be looking for a 
 piece of ham gear that is mistakenly on our repeater inputwith this 
 we will get back into the neighborhoods around the tower for a new look 
 and spread the word through the packet guys.
  
 Again, many thanks to all of you-I'll keep you informed.
  
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal

2006-12-14 Thread Max Slover
In case I confused anybody, this is what I am refering
to with APRS and a 100hz tone ---

VOICE ALERT:  This simply means that you do not turn
the audio down on 
144.39, but instead leave it at high volume and then
simply set CTCSS 
tone 100 to mute the speaker.  This way, you dont hear
any packets, but 
ANYONE can call you with VOICE on 144.39 to alert you
by using PL 100.  
You will rarely use this, and only use it to tell
someone to QSY to another 
voice channel, but it is one way of assuring that
ANYONE running APRS in 
simplex range of you can ALWAYS be contacted with a
voice call...

You wont hear any  packets except maybe one or two
when another VOICE-
ALERT mobile is in range (about 3 miles or so).  But
even then, he is only 
beaconing once every 2 minutes and so it is not
bothersome at all..  
In fact, it is nice to hear when someone is nearby! 
Its like a free radar
for other mobile APRS operators that are in simplex
range AND listening.

--- 

--- Max Slover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doh, this just hit me. It would most definitely be
 an
 APRS setup due to the 100hz subtone. In APRS you set
 the subtone to 100 so you can do voice alert. Man,
 why
 didn't I think of that part when this was first
 mentioned. 
 
 Sorry for being a bit late on that but I figured I'd
 toss my 2 cents on this. 
 
 Max...


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K0AZV - Amateur
WPWH-650 GMRS 
St. Louis County ARES
St. Ann MO EM48tr


[Repeater-Builder] Midland transmitter and receiver

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Bridgeman
Hello, all,
I am looking for a set of TCXO's for the Midland UHF BaseTech repeater 
transmitter, 71-5051B, and the receiver 71-5052B.  If no one has a spare set, I 
would consider the complete exciter and receiver, but these will need to have 
the TCXO's included.  Contact me off list with info on what you have, at [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Dennis Bridgeman KC0FWN
Bridgeman Communications
202 Seventh Street 
Carmi, Illinois 62821
http://bridgemancommunications.comhttp://bridgemancommunications.com/

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mirage D1010 Amp for ATV repeaters?

2006-12-14 Thread Ken
Hi Roger!

Thanks for the info. 

Bit of bad news on this actually. 

We sold our old PA to help fund the new one. 

I received an Email from the guy we were going to buy from in the US
who now says he has found another buyer. :(

So our repeater is currently off air until we can find another. 

So if you hear of any around the $100 mark, please let us know. 

Regards,
Ken
.-.-.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We used one of these amps on our ATV repeater that re-transmitted
Weather Radar images for many, many years in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area
and had no failures that I remember. We transmitted into a circulator
prior to the antenna, a 5 dB omni vertical, which was over 900 feet
above the ground. Best I remember, we used it near its max. power out
limit, backing off a little.
 
 Roger W5RD
 
 
 From: Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/12/13 Wed AM 07:23:55 CST
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mirage D1010 Amp for ATV repeaters?
 
   
 Giday!
 
 Has anyone had any experience using the Mirage D1010 amps for 70cm ATV?
 
 I'm looking at getting a bigger amp for our local ATV repeater and the
 older versions of these amps seem to be fairly plentiful second hand
 in the US. 
 
 I believe there are a few different versions of this amp, so I would
 be interested to hear how they vary internally and in application.
 Also how to tell the difference between them by their outside
appearance. 
 
 Another reason I am looking at these is that I am led to believe that
 they use the MRF646 to drive a pair of MRF648 's. We have a few spares
 of these particular transistors so this would be handy also for future
 maintanance.
 
 Oh also what is a good price for these amps second hand in good
condition?
 
 Regards, 
 Ken - VK4AKP
 .-.-.
 
 
 
 
 Roger White
 Murphy, Texas





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor compa-station Manual

2006-12-14 Thread n3gh_1
Bob,

I got your copies.
They look great.
Thanks alot

73,
N3GH
George

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got that exact manual and will scan the two pages
 and e-mail them to you. What I don't find is a photo
 showing the tuned components; they're present for the
 exciter but not for the receiver. If you have the
 metal shield on the receiver, I think that has the
 component labels on it.
 
 Bob M.
 ==
 --- n3gh_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wonder if anyone has a spare manual for the Micor
  Compa-station?
  P/N of the one I need is the 68P81025E50.
  THis has the alighment instrucgtions for the
  TLE8032B receiver and the
  TLE8023B Filter.
  
  Thanks
  
  N3GH
  George
  (W3BD Repeater)
 
 
  


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M duplexer wanted in UK

2006-12-14 Thread dave_g7uzn
Are you saying that a duplexer built from heliax can cope with a 
0.5MHz plit at any temperature?I somehow doubt it (no invar!)

Cheers Dave UZN






--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Matt Beasant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hi Steve,
 
 The 'FH duplexer was built by a very good friend, who doesn't want 
to build another one!!!
 
 But yes, it was built from LDF7-50 1 -5/8 Heliax.
 
 Matt
   - Original Message - 
   From: Steve 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:14 PM
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK
 
 
   Hi Matt
 
   What size heliax did you use, I seem to remember that it was 
built for you, wasn't it. I tried myself with small dia stuff
   and it was not very good, went slightly off tune and of course
   rx desense. As I have said, itmay just have been the cable I 
used.
 
   73
 
   Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Matt Beasant 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK
 
 
 My heliax duplexer has been in service now for over 2
 years at GB3FH without fault or need to re-adjust.
 
 I check it every time I visit site and it never moves!
 
 Over 85dB rejection on one side and 90 odd dB on the
 other, works fine for me.
 
 You can see pictures of it at www.gb3fh.org.uk
 
 Regards,
 
 Matt, G4RKY
 --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  don't get me wrong, Iam not condeming heliax
  duplexers
  totaly, but you have to take into account
  reliability once on site. I did make one but had to
  scrap it as it was so unreliable causing de sense
  etc, and every time I had to look at it I had to
  make arragements to access the site, which could
  take upto 2 weeks, must point out the one I
  made used small dia heliax, maybe larger dia would
  be OK
  but as I can't get any, I don't know
  Anyway had my say so end of thread from me
  
  Steve
  - Original Message - 
  From: Barry C' 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
  in UK
  
  
  
  Being a fan to the exclusion of saving several
  hundred quid is rather silly 
  when the duplexers work well and are generally
  quite efficient .
  
  From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer
  wanted in UK
  Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:07:54 -
  
  Hi
  
   think you will find that Dave, like me, isn't a
  huge fan
  of Heliax duplexers, see my posts about actualy
  getting
  hold of ldf 750
  
  73
  
  Steve
   - Original Message -
   From: Mr John Lloyd
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
  repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com ; John 
  Lloyd
   Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:56 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
  in UK
  
  
   Dave,
  
   You can build your own 6 Mtr duplexer. Find some
  1-5/8
   heliax and put one together.
  
   Look at http://www.wa7x.com/ki7dx_rpt.html
  
   Thanks,
  
   John, K7JL
  
   Utah VHF Society
  
   http://utahvhfs.org/snowlink.html
  
   1a. 6M duplexer wanted in UK
   Posted by: dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   dave_g7uzn
   Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 3:20 am ((PST))
  
   Hi All, Is anyone with a set of cavity filters
   suitable for 50/51MHz
   brave enough to sell them to me and get them
  shipped
   to the UK for a
   6M repeater project? ALL expences will of course
  be
   covered. If you
   can help please email me direct at
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Newbie Information Time - Mystery Signal

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Finch
Neil,

As always, good post.  Hey, stay dry out there if you can!

Paul




-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Newbie Information Time - Mystery Signal

  
   I guess it is time again for a bit of clarification for the 
  apparent newbies:  
 
   PL ... is a registered trademark of Motorola Inc. properly 
  known as Private Line. 
 
   A very polite way of saying the same thing here is 
  Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System or CTCSS. 
 
   The following is for all but specfically Mike Morris as well:
   The reference to hz is also incorrect ... as is an abbreviation 
  of Hertz, a persons last name.  Specifically should be Hz. 
 
   In my opinion, is a slight flaw in the voice operation on 
  144.39 MHz below ... the FCC requires you to monitor the 
  frequency in a non-CTCSS mode prior to transmitting. 
  And, if you have your 144.39 MHz receiver locked up on 
  CTCSS decode, your receiver won't hear the packet 
  operations ... 
 
   Thank you for your time, 
   Neil McKie - WA6KLA 
 



- Original Message -
From: Max Slover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal

 In case I confused anybody, this is what I am refering
 to with APRS and a 100hz tone ---
 
 VOICE ALERT:  This simply means that you do not turn
 the audio down on 
 144.39, but instead leave it at high volume and then
 simply set CTCSS 
 tone 100 to mute the speaker.  This way, you dont hear
 any packets, but 
 ANYONE can call you with VOICE on 144.39 to alert you
 by using PL 100.  
 You will rarely use this, and only use it to tell
 someone to QSY to another 
 voice channel, but it is one way of assuring that
 ANYONE running APRS in 
 simplex range of you can ALWAYS be contacted with a
 voice call...
 
 You wont hear any  packets except maybe one or two
 when another VOICE-
 ALERT mobile is in range (about 3 miles or so).  But
 even then, he is only 
 beaconing once every 2 minutes and so it is not
 bothersome at all..  
 In fact, it is nice to hear when someone is nearby! 
 Its like a free radar
 for other mobile APRS operators that are in simplex
 range AND listening.
 
 --- 
 
 --- Max Slover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Doh, this just hit me. It would most definitely be
  an
  APRS setup due to the 100hz subtone. In APRS you set
  the subtone to 100 so you can do voice alert. Man,
  why
  didn't I think of that part when this was first
  mentioned. 
  
  Sorry for being a bit late on that but I figured I'd
  toss my 2 cents on this. 
  
  Max...
 
 
 Public Information Officer -- St. Louis  Suburban Radio Club
 K0AZV - Amateur
 WPWH-650 GMRS 
 St. Louis County ARES
 St. Ann MO EM48tr
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] 6M cans still wanted in the UK

2006-12-14 Thread dave_g7uzn
Hi All, I rescently posted that I need a set of 6M cans for a repeater 
project in the UK. Despite one offer that appears to have fizzled out. 
Is anyone prepared to sell me some high quality cans and ship them to 
the UK? All expences paid.

  Thanks in advance..Cheers Dave UZN




[Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Kris Kirby

Did Motorola ever make a Micor or earlier vintage base station with a 
tube PA on 800MHz?

--
Kris Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Perryman
Kris,
I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have a Micor 75W solid state
PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?



Did Motorola ever make a Micor or earlier vintage base station with a
tube PA on 800MHz?

--
Kris Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Mike Perryman wrote:
 I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have a Micor 75W solid 
 state PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know..

Not really. What I'm thinking is that a tube-type PA would have less 
noise generated as a result of amplification which would mean less heat 
expended in the duplexers and harmonic filters.

--
Kris Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Finch
Yes they did, I think they all had tube PA's at the start, well except
Quintron.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

Kris,
I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have a Micor 75W solid state
PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?



Did Motorola ever make a Micor or earlier vintage base station with a
tube PA on 800MHz?

--
Kris Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread Joe Montierth

--- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Mike Perryman wrote:
  I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have
 a Micor 75W solid 
  state PA for 800 if you are interested lemme
 know..
 
 Not really. What I'm thinking is that a tube-type PA
 would have less 
 noise generated as a result of amplification which
 would mean less heat 
 expended in the duplexers and harmonic filters.
 
 --
 Kris Kirby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Even if a solid state TX at 100 watts only had the
spurious and harmonics down 20dB, that would only be 1
watt of additional heat generated.

Most transmitters have such things reduced by at least
60dB, which would make the additional heat generated
at something less than a milliwatt, hardly worth
mentioning. The heat comes from the loss of the
device. A 1 dB loss will introduce about 20 watts of
heat from a 100 watt TX.

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[Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25

2006-12-14 Thread Ian Miller
Hi all

Looking for a schematic for a PR-25 tripp lite power supply.

Can anyone help?

Contact me off list at 

va2ir at securenet dot net

Thanks

73
Ian



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Newbie Information Time - Mystery Signal

2006-12-14 Thread Bob Dengler
At 12/14/2006 08:34 AM, you wrote:

   In my opinion, is a slight flaw in the voice operation on
   144.39 MHz below ... the FCC requires you to monitor the
   frequency in a non-CTCSS mode prior to transmitting.

Not quite.  The FCC requires you to make sure the frequency is not in use 
before TXing, the idea being you don't interfere with communications in 
progress on said frequency.  Packet, by design, automatically monitors the 
frequency so as to minimize collisions.  If on occasion you accidentally 
stomp on a packet, no biggie: it automatically retries a few seconds 
later.  So occasional CTCSS-protected voice transmissions on 144.39 
wouldn't really be a problem, although an extended rag-chew would be.

Bob NO6B




Re: [Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25

2006-12-14 Thread DCFluX
Tripp lite does not allow there schematics out in the public, making
repair of their power supplys fairly difficult. When I called asking
for one they told me that they would be glad to sell me another PR-40
but couldn't offer a schematic for the one I had sitting in front of
my blowd up. Repair involved the shotgun method of replacing every
semiconductor component on the board. For future reference I would
advise anyone to pony up the extra money and buy an Astron, at least
those are user servicable.

On 12/14/06, Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 Looking for a schematic for a PR-25 tripp lite power supply.

 Can anyone help?

 Contact me off list at

 va2ir at securenet dot net

 Thanks

 73
 Ian






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Newbie Information Time - Mystery Signal

2006-12-14 Thread w5zit
In addition to Neil's comment - you would screw up the APRS operation 
if you do not listen and prevent your own APRS broadcast from going out 
during another APRS transmission.  You could key up on top of the 
ongoing transmission and both your own and the other packets would be 
QRMed.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Newbie Information Time - Mystery Signal


In my opinion, is a slight flaw in the voice operation on
144.39 MHz below ... the FCC requires you to monitor the
frequency in a non-CTCSS mode prior to transmitting.
And, if you have your 144.39 MHz receiver locked up on
CTCSS decode, your receiver won't hear the packet
operations ...

Thank you for your time,
Neil McKie - WA6KLA


- Original Message -
From: Max Slover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery Signal

 In case I confused anybody, this is what I am refering
 to with APRS and a 100hz tone ---

 VOICE ALERT: This simply means that you do not turn
 the audio down on
 144.39, but instead leave it at high volume and then
 simply set CTCSS
 tone 100 to mute the speaker. This way, you dont hear
 any packets, but
 ANYONE can call you with VOICE on 144.39 to alert you
 by using PL 100.
 You will rarely use this, and only use it to tell
 someone to QSY to another
 voice channel, but it is one way of assuring that
 ANYONE running APRS in
 simplex range of you can ALWAYS be contacted with a
 voice call...

 You wont hear any packets except maybe one or two
 when another VOICE-
 ALERT mobile is in range (about 3 miles or so). But
 even then, he is only
 beaconing once every 2 minutes and so it is not
 bothersome at all..
 In fact, it is nice to hear when someone is nearby!
 Its like a free radar
 for other mobile APRS operators that are in simplex
 range AND listening.

 ---

 --- Max Slover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Doh, this just hit me. It would most definitely be
  an
  APRS setup due to the 100hz subtone. In APRS you set
  the subtone to 100 so you can do voice alert. Man,
  why
  didn't I think of that part when this was first
  mentioned.
 
  Sorry for being a bit late on that but I figured I'd
  toss my 2 cents on this.
 
  Max...


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 K0AZV - Amateur
 WPWH-650 GMRS
 St. Louis County ARES
 St. Ann MO EM48tr





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25

2006-12-14 Thread n . mckie
  
   In another life, 20 years ago or so, my employer was using 
  Tripp-Lite yellow domed strobe lights for their construction vehicles.  
 
   One day, I was visiting the central garage and noticed they had 5 
  Tripp-Lite strobes on a bench.  I asked the foreman why, his reply 
  was because they had crapped out and hadn't been tossed out yet.  
 
   I asked him if I could take them back to my shop and he replied 'Yes!' 
 
   Fast forward a bit ... I analyzed the problem of each strobe light, 
  determined there was an early version and a later version.  Quickly, I 
  discovered the problem of each strobe light, used the unrepairable 
  units parts to fix the repairable ones and returned the repaired units 
  to the central shop a couple of hours later.  From then on, I got all the 
  strobe lights for repair. 
 
   I didn't need to contact the manufacturer as the transistors used were 
  fairly obvious from a bit of study (Motorola) and the rest of the parts 
  were available from the dead strobe units or the distributor. (flash tubes) 
 
   You might want to study the internal workings of your power supply in 
  case the problem is obvious. 
 
   Good luck with your project, 
   Neil - WA6KLA 
 



- Original Message -
From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] tripp lite pr-25

 Tripp lite does not allow there schematics out in the public, making
 repair of their power supplys fairly difficult. When I called asking
 for one they told me that they would be glad to sell me another PR-40
 but couldn't offer a schematic for the one I had sitting in front of
 my blowd up. Repair involved the shotgun method of replacing every
 semiconductor component on the board. For future reference I would
 advise anyone to pony up the extra money and buy an Astron, at least
 those are user servicable.
 
 On 12/14/06, Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all
  Looking for a schematic for a PR-25 tripp lite power supply.
  Can anyone help?
  Contact me off list at
  va2ir at securenet dot net
  Thanks
  73
  Ian



[Repeater-Builder] Re: HN462732g E prom

2006-12-14 Thread Greg
Thanks for reply Skip, 25V did seem to work best.
I ran the chips programmed @21V, and they worked as well as those 
programmed @ 25V, just slower programming got my attention as I did not 
have specs for chip.
32k shouldn't take long to download
Maybe the software has a little logic to it, to make up for errors on 
programming voltage.






[Repeater-Builder] Re: HN462732g E prom

2006-12-14 Thread skipp025
No problama'   if you want the data sheet search google under the 
full part number less the trailing g and you'll find the page with 
a pdf copy of the original data sheet after you file past all the 
over kill sharky chipdocs and datasheets web sites that try to 
charge money for what is otherwise free on the web. I'm sure they pay 
google to be first in every possible search result. 

cheers, 
skipp  

 Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for reply Skip, 25V did seem to work best.
 I ran the chips programmed @21V, and they worked as well as those 
 programmed @ 25V, just slower programming got my attention as I did not 
 have specs for chip.
 32k shouldn't take long to download
 Maybe the software has a little logic to it, to make up for errors on 
 programming voltage.





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread skipp025
 Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did Motorola ever make a Micor or earlier vintage base station 
 with a tube PA on 800MHz?

Yes, the pa assembly was actually made for Motorhead by Eimac and 
it uses a triode like the 3cx400u-a7 type tube (trying to remember 
the actual tube number). 

We had a lot of problems with the early operation units because 
people didn't know how to tune them, the blowers failed and the 
heater voltage was always set wrong (way to high).  

Sometimes it took Motorola a serious length of time for the
engineering folks to source a known circuit/equipment problem. 
But when high dollar tubes were going bad in units less than a 
year old you can bet they woke up and sourced the problems pretty 
fast. I have a factory internal memo about the results of the 
premi tube failure problem and the fix, which was included in 
manual updates and/or updated manuals. 

The PA Assemblies are often seen on ebay without the monster 
matching power supply.  There are also 900MHz units but much 
harder to find and yes... with lot of work the 800 unit will 
go up to 900 MHz. 

cheers, 
skipp 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread skipp025
If you worry about the type pa causing duplexer heating... then 
you have the wrong type of duplexer. It's not really going to be  
a problem... unless something in the equipment is marginal, which 
is not normally the case.  ... especially the type of duplexer as 
a general rule.
s. 

 Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Mike Perryman wrote:
  I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have a Micor 75W solid 
  state PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know..
 
 Not really. What I'm thinking is that a tube-type PA would have less 
 noise generated as a result of amplification which would mean less 
 heat expended in the duplexers and harmonic filters.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

2006-12-14 Thread skipp025
Yep... right on the money Joe... 

And one other thing to mention. If you find one of the monster 
pa units out there... don't even try to waste your time with it 
unless you get the matching monster power supply (a real 
cluster %$**) and the proper service manual (in most cases). 

If you don't have the power supply... you'll need to spend a 
bit of time with us over at the yahoo rfamplifiers group: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rfamplifiers/  
 unless you're very motivated. 

cheers, 
skipp 

 Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even if a solid state TX at 100 watts only had the
 spurious and harmonics down 20dB, that would only be 1
 watt of additional heat generated.
 
 Most transmitters have such things reduced by at least
 60dB, which would make the additional heat generated
 at something less than a milliwatt, hardly worth
 mentioning. The heat comes from the loss of the
 device. A 1 dB loss will introduce about 20 watts of
 heat from a 100 watt TX.
 
 Joe