Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info on IFR1500

2007-03-08 Thread Russ Wilson
Hi
Some of the 1500's had a GPIB bus connector on the back which looks like a 
parallel port-DB25.  If you have that model, then all you need is a GPIB 
controller and some (major) programming and voila, you can have the output from 
your IFR.  If yours doesn't have the GPIB then there is no provisions for any 
kind of output.
Russ AE6UX

Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey guys,
 Any way of hooking up the IFR1500 to a computer to email data from certain
 tests?
 In other words, can I hook it up to a computer so it can import the data to
 be emailed for someone to take a look at?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
 
 
   


Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Jim B.
Kris Kirby wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Eric Lemmon wrote:
 talkative.  Most of these blabbermouths consider setting the TOT on 
 their own radios as too restrictive.

 Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30 seconds.  In
 my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important message across.
 Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise...
 
 That's not a bad idea. I'd probably want to set it at 120 seconds; one 
 of the repeaters I grew up using had a 4-minute timer. 
 
 I program most of my radios for 300 seconds or five minutes, just in 
 case of stuck keys.
 

What is done on ham gear is one thing, but on commercial fleets, it 
should never be more then 90 seconds, and for public safety should be no 
more then 60, preferably 30-45 seconds.

While I was driving to work yesterday, and had my local fire dept 
repeater in scan, a dead carrier suddenly appeared. In listening, it was 
obvious that someone was sitting on their mic button. You could faintly 
hear talking, and mobile flutter. It continued for, oh, maybe 20 minutes 
or so. Either they never programmed the TOT on the radio, or, knowing 
FD's, they have an old radio that doesn't have one, like an HT-90 or 
something, maybe even an MT-500 or HT-220...
MAJOR issue...
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question

2007-03-08 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Well, I figured it out.  I guess there's at least one guru ;-) who knows how
the line-out works. Me.  Man, I hate surface mount technology, especially
when your only copy of the service manual is a fuzzy pdf from a scan !
Thanks to Dave's (K7IOU) younger eyes.

FYI-IYGAS:I'ts good sounding audio, much better than discriminator audio
which has been de-emphasized with a capacitor in the feedback of an audio
amp in the controller.  Kenwood says it's  600 ohms, -10dBm, -6dB/octave,
300 - 3000, however it appeared very sharp and still required a 0.0047 uf in
the audio feedback.  Since it used switched line-out, it caused a nice
little chirp when the repeater input squelched.  Discovering how to
eliminate the CO switching was the secret.  Plus, DTMF detection works great
with this audio so it will remain in the configuration.  If it's good to go
by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon.

de WD7F
John in Tucson


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The line-out de-emphasized audio on pin 10 of the accessory jack of the
TKR-820 is switched by COR.  Discriminator audio is continuous.  Does any
Kenwood guru know what signal is responsible for switching off the audio
when COR is not active?

It appears that the microprocessor on the Display Panel could via Q6 and
R45, but it doesn't appear to be the case in real life.

Anybody know.  I'd be happy to take it off line or call you on the phone (my
nickel).

de WD7F
John in Tucson





Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread w5zit
Off subject, but do you remember a time back in the '70s that this 
repeater was shut down due to a duct to Hawaii that let an 82 repeater 
in Hawaii come booming through in LA. I had a Wilson handi-talkie with 
a 1/4 wave ant taped to the roof of my rent car in LA and worked a guy 
walking on the beach in San Diego using a talkie through the Hawaii 
repeater. Still my longest distance DX on 2 meters.

73 - Jim

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The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since
the late 1960s. 30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot
of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking.


Mike WA6ILQ

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread no6b
At 3/7/2007 20:55, you wrote:
At 06:24 PM 03/07/07, you wrote:
 On 3/6/07, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30
  seconds.  In
my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important
  message across.
Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise...
 
 Many hams think otherwise, because it's HAM radio -- not commercial.  :-)
 
 I can't think of how you'd conduct a typical ham radio Net with 30
 second timers without sounding rediculous.

The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since
the late 1960s.  30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot
of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking.

I  many others have actually timed out that repeater while trying to pass 
traffic hazard info.  60 seconds is IMO the minimum practical timeout 
value.  I know of no other repeater that had a shorter value except the old 
WR6ANY on Flint Peak: it was 37 seconds - go figure.

Bob NO6B




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Celwave PD400 uhf

2007-03-08 Thread n2kpk
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n2kpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just opened up my PD400 and found one of the elements disconnected 
 which could not be soldered. It was seperated flush with center 
 insulation. Does anyone know what was the type cable they might have 
 used inside the copper tubing so that I can replace it? Size seems 
about 
 5/16 have pics will try posting.

Here is the link to the element which is in the photos section of this 
group. 

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/view/6d64?b=1



Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Johnny

If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are 
not giving a report. You are having a conversation.   Keep It Short and 
Simple.  Remember , the person on the other end is trying to filter the 
basic facts from all the bs.
Johnny


The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since
the late 1960s.  30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot
of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking.
 
 
 I  many others have actually timed out that repeater while trying to pass 
 traffic hazard info.  60 seconds is IMO the minimum practical timeout 
 value.  I know of no other repeater that had a shorter value except the old 
 WR6ANY on Flint Peak: it was 37 seconds - go figure.
 
 Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)
If you speak long enough to take a breath, you've talked 
tooo long.  Steve NU5D



Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread no6b
At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect.  I was passing important information  the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B




RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants
to discourage it's use.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect. I was passing important information  the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread no6b
At 3/8/2007 12:48, you wrote:
30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but 
wants to discourage it's use.

Richard, N7TGB

The idea was to restrict traffic to only emergencies, public service, 
etc.  Problem now is I never find anyone listening there to relay the 
traffic to the appropriate agency, so the original intent is rather 
diminished  the repeater gets very little use.

Bob NO6B




RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
My opinion is that a repeater should be used a lot, that way it's known to
be reliable in case of emergency use. Plus, as you say, there'll be people
listening.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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At 3/8/2007 12:48, you wrote:
30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but 
wants to discourage it's use.

Richard, N7TGB

The idea was to restrict traffic to only emergencies, public service, 
etc. Problem now is I never find anyone listening there to relay the 
traffic to the appropriate agency, so the original intent is rather 
diminished  the repeater gets very little use.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question

2007-03-08 Thread N9WYS
To paraphrase a hymn; Go put it on the mountain!  Maybe you have the
ultimate critic's approval!

Sorry - I just couldn't resist.  sheepish grin

Mark - N9WYS

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If it's good to go by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon.

de WD7F
John in Tucson
 




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question

2007-03-08 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
;-)

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To paraphrase a hymn; Go put it on the mountain!  Maybe you have the
ultimate critic's approval!

Sorry - I just couldn't resist.  sheepish grin

Mark - N9WYS

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If it's good to go by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon.

de WD7F
John in Tucson








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RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)

2007-03-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
Richard,

Please re-read my post.  It is the USER radios that have a 30-second time
limit.  The repeaters have three minutes, although they are commercial units
that can operate continuously.  A user timeout will inform a long-winded
talker that his time has expired, with a tone from his speaker, while a
repeater timeout will never be noticed except by others.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants
to discourage its use.
 
Richard, N7TGB



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At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect. I was passing important information  the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B



 




RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
You're right, I remember now. senior moment My apologies!
 
Richard

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Richard,

Please re-read my post. It is the USER radios that have a 30-second time
limit. The repeaters have three minutes, although they are commercial units
that can operate continuously. A user timeout will inform a long-winded
talker that his time has expired, with a tone from his speaker, while a
repeater timeout will never be noticed except by others.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants
to discourage its use.

Richard, N7TGB



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At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect. I was passing important information  the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B



 


[Repeater-Builder] RELM SMX921 Repeater

2007-03-08 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Anyone familiar with the RELM SMX921 repeater?  I wonder if the VHF model will 
program down into the ham band?

http://www.relm.com/spec_sheets/SMX_921.pdf

W4DEX