Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info on IFR1500
Hi Some of the 1500's had a GPIB bus connector on the back which looks like a parallel port-DB25. If you have that model, then all you need is a GPIB controller and some (major) programming and voila, you can have the output from your IFR. If yours doesn't have the GPIB then there is no provisions for any kind of output. Russ AE6UX Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Any way of hooking up the IFR1500 to a computer to email data from certain tests? In other words, can I hook it up to a computer so it can import the data to be emailed for someone to take a look at? Thanks, Jed
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Eric Lemmon wrote: talkative. Most of these blabbermouths consider setting the TOT on their own radios as too restrictive. Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30 seconds. In my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important message across. Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise... That's not a bad idea. I'd probably want to set it at 120 seconds; one of the repeaters I grew up using had a 4-minute timer. I program most of my radios for 300 seconds or five minutes, just in case of stuck keys. What is done on ham gear is one thing, but on commercial fleets, it should never be more then 90 seconds, and for public safety should be no more then 60, preferably 30-45 seconds. While I was driving to work yesterday, and had my local fire dept repeater in scan, a dead carrier suddenly appeared. In listening, it was obvious that someone was sitting on their mic button. You could faintly hear talking, and mobile flutter. It continued for, oh, maybe 20 minutes or so. Either they never programmed the TOT on the radio, or, knowing FD's, they have an old radio that doesn't have one, like an HT-90 or something, maybe even an MT-500 or HT-220... MAJOR issue... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question
Well, I figured it out. I guess there's at least one guru ;-) who knows how the line-out works. Me. Man, I hate surface mount technology, especially when your only copy of the service manual is a fuzzy pdf from a scan ! Thanks to Dave's (K7IOU) younger eyes. FYI-IYGAS:I'ts good sounding audio, much better than discriminator audio which has been de-emphasized with a capacitor in the feedback of an audio amp in the controller. Kenwood says it's 600 ohms, -10dBm, -6dB/octave, 300 - 3000, however it appeared very sharp and still required a 0.0047 uf in the audio feedback. Since it used switched line-out, it caused a nice little chirp when the repeater input squelched. Discovering how to eliminate the CO switching was the secret. Plus, DTMF detection works great with this audio so it will remain in the configuration. If it's good to go by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon. de WD7F John in Tucson - Original Message - From: WD7F - John in Tucson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question The line-out de-emphasized audio on pin 10 of the accessory jack of the TKR-820 is switched by COR. Discriminator audio is continuous. Does any Kenwood guru know what signal is responsible for switching off the audio when COR is not active? It appears that the microprocessor on the Display Panel could via Q6 and R45, but it doesn't appear to be the case in real life. Anybody know. I'd be happy to take it off line or call you on the phone (my nickel). de WD7F John in Tucson
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
Off subject, but do you remember a time back in the '70s that this repeater was shut down due to a duct to Hawaii that let an 82 repeater in Hawaii come booming through in LA. I had a Wilson handi-talkie with a 1/4 wave ant taped to the roof of my rent car in LA and worked a guy walking on the beach in San Diego using a talkie through the Hawaii repeater. Still my longest distance DX on 2 meters. 73 - Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since the late 1960s. 30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking. Mike WA6ILQ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
At 3/7/2007 20:55, you wrote: At 06:24 PM 03/07/07, you wrote: On 3/6/07, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every user radio in my commercial fleet has the TOT set for 30 seconds. In my mind, that's more than enough time to get any important message across. Unfortunately, many Hams think otherwise... Many hams think otherwise, because it's HAM radio -- not commercial. :-) I can't think of how you'd conduct a typical ham radio Net with 30 second timers without sounding rediculous. The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since the late 1960s. 30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking. I many others have actually timed out that repeater while trying to pass traffic hazard info. 60 seconds is IMO the minimum practical timeout value. I know of no other repeater that had a shorter value except the old WR6ANY on Flint Peak: it was 37 seconds - go figure. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Celwave PD400 uhf
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n2kpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just opened up my PD400 and found one of the elements disconnected which could not be soldered. It was seperated flush with center insulation. Does anyone know what was the type cable they might have used inside the copper tubing so that I can replace it? Size seems about 5/16 have pics will try posting. Here is the link to the element which is in the photos section of this group. http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/view/6d64?b=1
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are not giving a report. You are having a conversation. Keep It Short and Simple. Remember , the person on the other end is trying to filter the basic facts from all the bs. Johnny The 146.82 repeater in Los Angeles has been on a 30 second timer since the late 1960s. 30 seconds is longer than you think - you can get a lot of info across in that much time if you think before you start talking. I many others have actually timed out that repeater while trying to pass traffic hazard info. 60 seconds is IMO the minimum practical timeout value. I know of no other repeater that had a shorter value except the old WR6ANY on Flint Peak: it was 37 seconds - go figure. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
If you speak long enough to take a breath, you've talked tooo long. Steve NU5D
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote: If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are not giving a report. You are having a conversation. Incorrect. I was passing important information the repeater timed out. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants to discourage it's use. Richard, N7TGB _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote: If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are not giving a report. You are having a conversation. Incorrect. I was passing important information the repeater timed out. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
At 3/8/2007 12:48, you wrote: 30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants to discourage it's use. Richard, N7TGB The idea was to restrict traffic to only emergencies, public service, etc. Problem now is I never find anyone listening there to relay the traffic to the appropriate agency, so the original intent is rather diminished the repeater gets very little use. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh
My opinion is that a repeater should be used a lot, that way it's known to be reliable in case of emergency use. Plus, as you say, there'll be people listening. Richard, N7TGB _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh At 3/8/2007 12:48, you wrote: 30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants to discourage it's use. Richard, N7TGB The idea was to restrict traffic to only emergencies, public service, etc. Problem now is I never find anyone listening there to relay the traffic to the appropriate agency, so the original intent is rather diminished the repeater gets very little use. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question
To paraphrase a hymn; Go put it on the mountain! Maybe you have the ultimate critic's approval! Sorry - I just couldn't resist. sheepish grin Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson snip If it's good to go by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon. de WD7F John in Tucson
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question
;-) - Original Message - From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Another TKR-820 Question To paraphrase a hymn; Go put it on the mountain! Maybe you have the ultimate critic's approval! Sorry - I just couldn't resist. sheepish grin Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson snip If it's good to go by the critics, we'll put it on the mountain soon. de WD7F John in Tucson Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)
Richard, Please re-read my post. It is the USER radios that have a 30-second time limit. The repeaters have three minutes, although they are commercial units that can operate continuously. A user timeout will inform a long-winded talker that his time has expired, with a tone from his speaker, while a repeater timeout will never be noticed except by others. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh 30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants to discourage its use. Richard, N7TGB From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote: If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are not giving a report. You are having a conversation. Incorrect. I was passing important information the repeater timed out. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)
You're right, I remember now. senior moment My apologies! Richard _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh) Richard, Please re-read my post. It is the USER radios that have a 30-second time limit. The repeaters have three minutes, although they are commercial units that can operate continuously. A user timeout will inform a long-winded talker that his time has expired, with a tone from his speaker, while a repeater timeout will never be noticed except by others. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh 30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants to discourage its use. Richard, N7TGB From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no6b%40rptrlist.w6jpl.ampr.org w6jpl.ampr.org Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote: If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are not giving a report. You are having a conversation. Incorrect. I was passing important information the repeater timed out. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] RELM SMX921 Repeater
Anyone familiar with the RELM SMX921 repeater? I wonder if the VHF model will program down into the ham band? http://www.relm.com/spec_sheets/SMX_921.pdf W4DEX