RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Don KA9QJG
I have a 220 Repeater and a 440 Repeater Set at about 5 min. I think if a
Repeater is Supported By a Club it is up to the Members as to how long they
want it. I was on a Repeater last Week in the Chicago Metro area The timer
was set for 30 Seconds, I could not believe it but was Told it was a Large
Coverage repeater that was used for Hams going to and from work and that way
Everyone got a chance to talk on the way Home.,  I don't think it is a FCC
Rule  except  that it must ID Every 10 Min during use . I have some very
long-winded users but the Repeaters are low profile and No club or dues, so
I encourage the Long and often QSO. The only Problem as Some of get older by
the time it gets back to you. We forget what the Heck we wanted to say or
what someone else was talking about.  That is why it is Converted Old
Motorola Micor Continuous Duty Equipment. ,   Some of it Custom Made by the
Owners of this Group. I think if a timer is Set for the only Reason of a
couple of Min to protect the Equipment Then it Should be built Better to be
a real Repeater.



Happy Repeater Building



Don KA9QJG


Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread mch
The 3 minutes comes from the FCC requirement that should your control
device fail the repeater shut duwn within 3 minutes. That's in Part 97.

Joe M.

 Marty Schultz wrote:
 
 Hello all. I help to maintain the repeaters of the ham club I belong
 to and had a discussion with one of our rather older crusty member
 concerning the three minute timeout we have on our repeaters. On one
 occasion after he timeout one of our repeaters for about the third
 time (he is long winded) I said something like I wish I could extend
 the timeout but the FCC wants the three minute time out on repeaters.
 He answer back that it is not a FCC regulation but a standard that
 develop over the years to prevent someone from being too longwinded on
 a repeater like himself. I spent some 20 years in a two-way shop and
 we always had nothing longer than three minutes timeout on the radios
 we program. We do newsline and rain on our nets and have the timeout
 temporary disable for them but I think that is permissible if you have
 a control operator standing by? Looking at part 97.213(b) for
 Telecommand of an amateur station they talk about provisions to limit
 transmissions of no more than three minutes in case of equipment
 failure. My interpretation is that would apply to repeaters also.
 Not looking for ammunition to battle  the fellow with but more to
 satisfy my curiosity and to know what is what.
 
 Marty,  N9PPJ
 
 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controller SSC 836AA (SSC aka Solid State Communications).

2007-05-02 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote:
 Hi Jim, 
 
 I don't remember seeing the book/manual yet... 
 
 Anything anyone sends me gets scanned into pdf files and is made 
 available to anyone for free. 
 
 Scom Bob sent me the Repco vhf and uhf manuals and I've already 
 sent complete manual scans to Mike (and back to Bob).  
 
 Send me anything you can and I'll get it sent out ok. I can and 
 will make a download for most anything useful off the sonic page. 
 
 I tend to break large manual scans into two parts... makes for 
 easier email attachments. 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 

Ok-I'll have to try to re-send that from home. I'm in the process of 
trying to upgrade the hard drive, and it's not going well.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread no6b
At 5/1/2007 14:24, you wrote:
Hello all. I help to maintain the repeaters of the ham club I belong to 
and had a discussion with one of our rather older crusty member concerning 
the three minute timeout we have on our repeaters. On one occasion after 
he timeout one of our repeaters for about the third time (he is long 
winded) I said something like I wish I could extend the timeout but the 
FCC wants the three minute time out on repeaters. He answer back that it 
is not a FCC regulation but a standard that develop over the years to 
prevent someone from being too longwinded on a repeater like himself.

Correct.  The 3-minute rule does NOT require a time-out timer, but rather a 
control link watchdog timer that AFAIK nobody uses.

Bob NO6B




Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread no6b
At 5/2/2007 05:34, you wrote:
The 3 minutes comes from the FCC requirement that should your control
device fail the repeater shut duwn within 3 minutes. That's in Part 97.

Joe M.

Correct, but it does not mean that a repeater must have a 3 minute activity 
timer.

This is the most misinterpreted rule in the book.  To answer the subject 
line, yes it is a myth.

Bob NO6B




Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I was just thinking, in public safety the typical transmisssion is much less
than 10 seconds.  30 seconds would be long, an 60 seconds almost unheard of.

60 seconds should be adequate for almost any amateur radio 'shared repeater'
operation.  If the OM needs more time, make a short pause (maybe see if
there is something important needing to be broadcast), and then resume.
This is more a good operating technique than anything to do with rules, kind
of like not carrying on QSO's on a calling channel or monitoring both
frequencies when trying to work Scarborough Island split on 20 Meters

73, Steve



RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Jamey Wright
Obviously, you haven't met some of our officers.  But in keeping on topic,
60 seconds should be sufficient most of the time.

Jamey Wright
Systems Analyst
Morgan County EMCD 911
Decatur, AL
256-552-0911

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Samuel Bosshard (NU5D)
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:03 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth
 
 I was just thinking, in public safety the typical transmisssion is much
 less
 than 10 seconds.  30 seconds would be long, an 60 seconds almost unheard
 of.
 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Paul Finch
I just remember the old FOUR minute timers Motorola had back in those
days.

Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamey Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:27 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

Obviously, you haven't met some of our officers.  But in keeping on topic,
60 seconds should be sufficient most of the time.

Jamey Wright
Systems Analyst
Morgan County EMCD 911
Decatur, AL
256-552-0911

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Samuel Bosshard (NU5D)
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:03 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or 
 myth
 
 I was just thinking, in public safety the typical transmisssion is 
 much less than 10 seconds.  30 seconds would be long, an 60 seconds 
 almost unheard of.
 







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Paul Finch
Hello,

I also remember the 4 minute TOT's in the Motorola paging stations!  My
Boss wanted them left in so I did, was not two months and we had to send
the local tech out and pull every one of them!  What was he thinking!  It
was not that they were timing out, it was that they were going bad and
shutting down the transmitter earlier than the four minutes they were set
to.

Paul
 

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

I just remember the old FOUR minute timers Motorola had back in those
days.

Paul
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamey Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:27 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

Obviously, you haven't met some of our officers.  But in keeping on topic,
60 seconds should be sufficient most of the time.

Jamey Wright
Systems Analyst
Morgan County EMCD 911
Decatur, AL
256-552-0911

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:03 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or 
 myth
 
 I was just thinking, in public safety the typical transmisssion is 
 much less than 10 seconds.  30 seconds would be long, an 60 seconds 
 almost unheard of.
 







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread cruising7388
 
In a message dated 5/2/2007 7:21:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
At 5/2/2007 05:34, you wrote:
The 3 minutes comes from the FCC  requirement that should your control
device fail the repeater shut duwn  within 3 minutes. That's in Part 97.

Joe M.

Correct, but  it does not mean that a repeater must have a 3 minute activity  
timer.




Not only isn't there a time out limitation - didn't the FCC also eliminate  
the permissible length of the repeater hangtail which would permit for all  
(im)practical puroses, a constant carrier?  






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[Repeater-Builder] TS-32 story

2007-05-02 Thread skipp025
Just off the phone with Comm Spec about the TS-32 ctcss enc/dec 
unit/board. 

Seems the reason they discontinued the unit was the chip supplier 
Hughes gave them short notice about no longer making the main 
IC.  

I'm looking for the TS-32 wire end pin connectors.  I believe 
they are an Amp Terminal Pin of some type?  Anyone know of a 
part number and/or source for these connectors?  Comm Spec no 
longer carries/has them available in any serious qty. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread mch
Yes, they did - about 15 years ago.

Joe M.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  didn't the FCC
  also eliminate the permissible length of the repeater
  hangtail which would permit for all (im)practical puroses, a
  constant carrier?


[Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread Bill Powell
Good question!

Nowhere in Part 97 could I find ANY reference to either ID or timeout
requirements for repeaters (SPECIFICALLY for repeaters).

I did, however find the following re: timeout

§ 97.213 Telecommand of an amateur station.
An amateur station on or within 50 km of the Earth's surface may be
under telecommand where:
(a)
(b) Provisions are incorporated to limit transmission by the station
to a period of no more than 3 minutes in the event of malfunction in
the control link.
Definitions:
(41) Telecommand. A one-way transmission to initiate, modify, or
terminate functions of a device at a distance.
(42) Telecommand station. An amateur station that transmits
communications to initiate, modify or terminate functions of a space
station.

Also found:
97.119 Station identification.
(a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand
station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting
channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10
minutes during a communication, for the purpose of clearly making the
source of the transmissions from the station known to those receiving
the transmissions. No station may transmit unidentified communications
or signals, or transmit as the station call sign, any call sign not
authorized to the station.

Nothing about timeout though.

Perhaps a friendly E-Mail to Riley asking if he'd bust you for it?
In any event, a 3 minute time out timer is simply good practice and
might save an expen$ive final.

Bill - WB1GOT




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Marty Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello all. I help to maintain the repeaters of the ham club I belong to 
 and had a discussion with one of our rather older crusty member 
 concerning the three minute timeout we have on our repeaters. On one 
 occasion after he timeout one of our repeaters for about the third time 
 (he is long winded) I said something like I wish I could extend the 
 timeout but the FCC wants the three minute time out on repeaters. He 
 answer back that it is not a FCC regulation but a standard that develop 
 over the years to prevent someone from being too longwinded on a 
 repeater like himself. I spent some 20 years in a two-way shop and we 
 always had nothing longer than three minutes timeout on the radios we 
 program. We do newsline and rain on our nets and have the timeout 
 temporary disable for them but I think that is permissible if you
have a 
 control operator standing by? Looking at part 97.213(b) for Telecommand 
 of an amateur station they talk about provisions to limit transmissions 
 of no more than three minutes in case of equipment failure. My 
 interpretation is that would apply to repeaters also. Not looking for 
 ammunition to battle  the fellow with but more to satisfy my curiosity 
 and to know what is what.
 
 Marty,  N9PPJ




[Repeater-Builder] shark frenzy on ebay for 500 watt vhf amplifier

2007-05-02 Thread skipp025
It was real fun watching some of you shark over that 500 
watt vhf amplifier listed on Ebay. 

Henry Electronics RF Amplifier FM Repeater VHF 2-meter 
Item number: 230122381708 

I honestly thought it would sell for more than the closing 
price. Nothing like an auction with 3490 hits to tell you 
a lot of people were watching. 

Alas I'm not overly fond of Henry Repeater Amplifiers even 
though I have a few in storage. Someone is going to have fun 
converting the 162 MHz unit down to the amateur bands. Not a 
task for the faint at heart. 

Your results will probably vary... 

cheers,
skipp 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 minute timeout. FCC regulation or myth

2007-05-02 Thread mch
You couldn't find anything on ID, but quoted the ID rule? It's the same
rule for repeaters or otherwise.

Joe M.

Bill Powell wrote:
 
 Good question!
 
 Nowhere in Part 97 could I find ANY reference to either ID or timeout
 requirements for repeaters (SPECIFICALLY for repeaters).
 
 I did, however find the following re: timeout
 
 § 97.213 Telecommand of an amateur station.
 An amateur station on or within 50 km of the Earth's surface may be
 under telecommand where:
 (a)
 (b) Provisions are incorporated to limit transmission by the station
 to a period of no more than 3 minutes in the event of malfunction in
 the control link.
 Definitions:
 (41) Telecommand. A one-way transmission to initiate, modify, or
 terminate functions of a device at a distance.
 (42) Telecommand station. An amateur station that transmits
 communications to initiate, modify or terminate functions of a space
 station.
 
 Also found:
 97.119 Station identification.
 (a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand
 station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting
 channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10
 minutes during a communication, for the purpose of clearly making the
 source of the transmissions from the station known to those receiving
 the transmissions. No station may transmit unidentified communications
 or signals, or transmit as the station call sign, any call sign not
 authorized to the station.
 
 Nothing about timeout though.
 
 Perhaps a friendly E-Mail to Riley asking if he'd bust you for it?
 In any event, a 3 minute time out timer is simply good practice and
 might save an expen$ive final.
 
 Bill - WB1GOT
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Marty Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hello all. I help to maintain the repeaters of the ham club I belong to
  and had a discussion with one of our rather older crusty member
  concerning the three minute timeout we have on our repeaters. On one
  occasion after he timeout one of our repeaters for about the third time
  (he is long winded) I said something like I wish I could extend the
  timeout but the FCC wants the three minute time out on repeaters. He
  answer back that it is not a FCC regulation but a standard that develop
  over the years to prevent someone from being too longwinded on a
  repeater like himself. I spent some 20 years in a two-way shop and we
  always had nothing longer than three minutes timeout on the radios we
  program. We do newsline and rain on our nets and have the timeout
  temporary disable for them but I think that is permissible if you
 have a
  control operator standing by? Looking at part 97.213(b) for Telecommand
  of an amateur station they talk about provisions to limit transmissions
  of no more than three minutes in case of equipment failure. My
  interpretation is that would apply to repeaters also. Not looking for
  ammunition to battle  the fellow with but more to satisfy my curiosity
  and to know what is what.
 
  Marty,  N9PPJ
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] shark frenzy on ebay for 500 watt vhf amplifier

2007-05-02 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)

Well OM, what did it go for???  Paid $1100 for a used Commander II with a
good tube a year or so ago - old amp but sure works nicely.  Steve NU5D

On 5/2/07, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It was real fun watching some of you shark over that 500
watt vhf amplifier listed on Ebay.

Henry Electronics RF Amplifier FM Repeater VHF 2-meter
Item number: 230122381708

I honestly thought it would sell for more than the closing
price. Nothing like an auction with 3490 hits to tell you
a lot of people were watching.



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Nickel Under Five Dollars


RE: [Repeater-Builder] shark frenzy on ebay for 500 watt vhf amplifier

2007-05-02 Thread N9WYS
$405.00

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Steve Bosshard (NU5D)



Well OM, what did it go for???  Paid $1100 for a used Commander II with a
good tube a year or so ago - old amp but sure works nicely.  Steve NU5D

On 5/2/07, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It was real fun watching some of you shark over that 500
watt vhf amplifier listed on Ebay.

Henry Electronics RF Amplifier FM Repeater VHF 2-meter
Item number: 230122381708

I honestly thought it would sell for more than the closing 
price. Nothing like an auction with 3490 hits to tell you
a lot of people were watching.


-- 
Ham Radio Spoken Here.NU5D
Nickel Under Five Dollars  



[Repeater-Builder] Spectra Audio

2007-05-02 Thread Don
I Have a Motorola Desktrac Base Station was working Fine then all of a
Sudden NO AUDIO, I Tried another Speaker Etc. no Popping nothing Any
Ideas before I start digging around for the Problem.  I can See the
Busy Light come on when I send out a Signal Also on the Programming
Cable I have the one for a Ext Speaker leads nothing heard there 
either .Self check is fine  

Thanks Don KA9QJG 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] shark frenzy on ebay for 500 watt vhf amplifier

2007-05-02 Thread Mathew Quaife
Is anyone interested in a Henry Tempo V1001 two piece 500 watt single tube amp. 
 I can't remember the exact tube it is running, but have found out that it is 
not rated for full duty cycle.  If your interested, contact me off list.

Mathew


N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  $405.00
   
  Mark – N9WYS
   
  
-
  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
 
 
  Well OM, what did it go for???  Paid $1100 for a used Commander II with a 
good tube a year or so ago - old amp but sure works nicely.  Steve NU5D
On 5/2/07, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It was real fun watching some of you shark over that 500
 watt vhf amplifier listed on Ebay.
 
 Henry Electronics RF Amplifier FM Repeater VHF 2-meter
 Item number: 230122381708
 
 I honestly thought it would sell for more than the closing 
 price. Nothing like an auction with 3490 hits to tell you
 a lot of people were watching.
  
  
 -- 
 Ham Radio Spoken Here.NU5D
 Nickel Under Five Dollars  
  
 
 
   

   
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[Repeater-Builder] Bonded Tower Climbers / Companies....

2007-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that might do work in the metro Atlanta area?  Looking to take down,
disassemble tower, dismantle antennas and hardline.  Tower is a Rohn
55/ 65 mix...200'.

Please contact me direct at kd4ydc at juno dot com.

Thanks!
Robert




Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS-32 story

2007-05-02 Thread cruising7388
In a message dated 5/2/2007 9:51:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just  off the phone with Comm Spec about the TS-32 ctcss enc/dec 
unit/board.  

Seems the reason they discontinued the unit was the chip supplier  
Hughes gave them short notice about no longer making the main 
IC.  


Seems hard to believe. Discontinuing the TS-32 is akin to discontinuing  
vanilla ice cream.
 
 
I'm looking for the TS-32 wire end pin connectors. I believe 
they are  an Amp Terminal Pin of some type? Anyone know of a 
part number and/or source  for these connectors? Comm Spec no 
longer carries/has them available in any  serious qty. 



I've got about 100 of them on a ribbon and can let you have some if you end  
up short handed.
I believe I found them at Mike Quinns when they were on Airport Blvd in  Oak.
 
 



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bonded Tower Climbers / Companies....

2007-05-02 Thread georgiaskywarn
Ooppps,
Rohn 45/55 mix :-)
Sorry,
Robert
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

 that might do work in the metro Atlanta area?  Looking to take down,
 disassemble tower, dismantle antennas and hardline.  Tower is a Rohn
 55/ 65 mix...200'.
 
 Please contact me direct at kd4ydc at juno dot com.
 
 Thanks!
 Robert





[Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread Don KA9QJG
Can anyone who uses a Advanced Research Preamp on Your Repeater  Answer this
question ,If the Preamp goes Bad dos that just put the Receive back to
where it would be without the Pre Amp in Line or will it actually because it
went bad Attenuate the Receive.



Thanks Don


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread Maire-Radios
I have always found it is less signal that if the pre amp was not there at all. 
 It will attenuate it some.

John

same is true for TX RX pre amps. also.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Don KA9QJG 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:39 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp



  Can anyone who uses a Advanced Research Preamp on Your Repeater  Answer this 
question ,If the Preamp goes Bad dos that just put the Receive back to 
where it would be without the Pre Amp in Line or will it actually because it 
went bad Attenuate the Receive. 



  Thanks Don 


   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread Ken Arck

At 07:39 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote:

Can anyone who uses a Advanced Research Preamp on Your 
Repeater  Answer this question ,If the Preamp goes Bad dos that 
just put the Receive back to where it would be without the Pre Amp 
in Line or will it actually because it went bad Attenuate the Receive.



As with any preamp, it will attenuate. How much depends on the 
design but more than likely by at least several dB


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread Don KA9QJG
Thanks for all the Input on the Preamp I will go out to the site sooner now
and Just take it out of Line until I get one to take it's place It's on a
220 Micor Repeater custom built By Kevin, Preamp is Not necessary anyway.



Don KA9QKG


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread cruising7388
 
In a message dated 5/2/2007 7:40:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Can anyone who uses a Advanced Research Preamp on Your  Repeater  Answer  
this question ,If the Preamp  goes Bad dos that just put the Receive back 
to 
where it would be without the  Pre Amp in Line or will it actually because it 
went bad Attenuate the Receive.   




I don't know what db loss you would experience if there is a component  
failure within the preamp,  but if you simply power it down, the db loss  
across 
the preamp is approximately 35db.
 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TS-32 story

2007-05-02 Thread N9WYS
Why limit yourself to 32 tones, when you can have 64??  Com-Spec makes the
TS-64 and TS-64DS (with dip switches instead of having to solder the pads).

TS-64 is $54.95

TS-64DS is $57.95.

http://www.com-spec.com/ts64.htm

 

Instead of vanilla, I'd rather have chocolate chip cookie dough.

 

FWIW - I bought a TS-64DS and installed it on my 444.550 repeater. Working
like a charm.

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]



In a message dated 5/2/2007 9:51:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just off the phone with Comm Spec about the TS-32 ctcss enc/dec 
unit/board. 

Seems the reason they discontinued the unit was the chip supplier 
Hughes gave them short notice about no longer making the main 
IC. 

Seems hard to believe. Discontinuing the TS-32 is akin to discontinuing
vanilla ice cream.

 

 

I'm looking for the TS-32 wire end pin connectors. I believe 
they are an Amp Terminal Pin of some type? Anyone know of a 
part number and/or source for these connectors? Comm Spec no 
longer carries/has them available in any serious qty. 

I've got about 100 of them on a ribbon and can let you have some if you end
up short handed.

I believe I found them at Mike Quinns when they were on Airport Blvd in Oak.

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread cruising7388
 
In a message dated 5/2/2007 8:23:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It’s on a 220 Micor Repeater custom built By Kevin, Preamp  is Not necessary 
anyway.  




Don't they use the Ramsey preamp on those  conversions?



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of manuals....

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Morris
Well, I asked if anyone had an extra, and found a cellphone
message this morning from a list member who advised that
Moto still had both manuals listed as active items.

I called Moto to order both and was advised that they
had ONE copy of the MT1000 Instruction manual left,
and lots of the MVA manual left.

I ordered both.

The MT1000 VHF/UHF Instruction Manual is part number
6881067C40 and is about $20. If the Moto ordering drone
is correct I got the last one. The Mobile Vehicular Adapter
(MVA) Instruction Manual  is part number 68P81062C75
and is about $27.

Thanks to the list member for the heads up that they
were still current manuals.

Mike WA6ILQ


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Speaking of manuals

Does anyone have any extra copies of the service
manuals for low band, high band or UHF MT1000s?

I loaned my set out to a guy over a year ago who
was going to carefully take them apart and PDF
them, reassemble them (with a long-arm stapler)
and return them along with a set of PDFs on CD
and now he's evaporated.

I am specifically NOT asking anyone to loan me
their only copies, I am looking for someone that
may have an extra.

Mike WA6ILQ



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Preamp

2007-05-02 Thread Don KA9QJG

  You ask   Don't they use the Ramsey preamp on those conversions?

   

   

  The Custom Repeater Builders who Run this Group are very Flexible They will 
Build You What You want and What they Recommend, It’s Your money You get what 
You pay for,   So I just left it up to the Pros. I already had the advanced 
research preamp In a Hamtronics Repeater and it was needed, But sent it in for 
Scott to install with the Micor Job. He stated it was the hottest 220 Micor mod 
Receive He had ever did. And it did not even need the Preamp but I went ahead 
and had it put in.  

   

  Happy Repeater Building 

   

  Don KA9QJG