Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread mch
Who owns it now?

Joe M.

Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
 
 I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
 
 I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
 members of the group.
 
 This is something that has been brought up to me.
 
 If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
 former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] SSI 202 DTMF chips

2007-06-16 Thread JW Stevens
Me, perhaps.  I forgot to do SASE...  Am I on the list??
 
Thanks!
 
73 john k5js
 
 

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I thought I sent these chips to everyone that asked for them but I still
have three left.
Who did I miss?




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[Repeater-Builder] International Space Station

2007-06-16 Thread Don
Did a little research after Hearing the International Space Station
might have to temporally Shut down a Everyone Removed  due to some
Computer Problems , But Saw on CNN today that the Russian 
Commander FYODOR  YURCHIKHIN Was able to fig out a way to Jumper 

Over a Power Supply switch on the Systems and Gets thing back to
Normal, What makes this Noteworthy and will probably not even talked
about in the Media Hey He is a Lic Amateur Radio Operator No wonder He
figured it out and Fixed it.  That's nice to Know.


ISS Mission Manager Mike Suffredini says the problem turned out to be
a faulty circuit inside the computers, which Russian technicians were
able to bypass. They went to activate the four that they thought were
still good, and all four of the computers came up, he said.

http://voanews.com/english/2007-06-16-voa2.cfm

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/yurchikhin.html

http://hamcall.net/call?callsign=RN3FI

73 De Don KA9QJG 






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Christopher Hodgdon
Up until a few months ago, it was owned by ATT, then it was bought by
a private individual that is using it mainly for a storage building
and nothing else.

But, we may be in a posistion to use the tower as our own, or possible
be able to purchase it all.

We are looking into all of our options.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who owns it now?
 
 Joe M.
 
 Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
  
  I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
  
  I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
  members of the group.
  
  This is something that has been brought up to me.
  
  If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
  former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
I would like to be able to place equipment on a former ATT site if the
new owner is agreeable and I do not become liable for lighting and
painting, etc.  AND if the site would serve an area that I would like to
serve, and the condition of the tower were safe for use.  Also things
like tower registration come into play and FAA listing. 
Seems like ATT used some mighty big cornucopia antennas with quad
diversity - serious bandwidth - in the old days longlines carried
network television programming - imagine an NTSC video monitor in a
transmission or toll office - 73, steve

Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
 Up until a few months ago, it was owned by ATT, then it was bought by
 a private individual that is using it mainly for a storage building
 and nothing else.
   

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[Repeater-Builder] Help identifying GE uhf receiver

2007-06-16 Thread Rpage
Can anyone identify the receiver in the photo section , UHF GE Repeater ?
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos
There is no identification info stamped on or inside the receiver.
The exciter board is 4EG21F1
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks.

-- 
Rick
ve3iqz



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help identifying GE uhf receiver

2007-06-16 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Exec 1 series - don't think I have a book, but might have microfische. 
Steve.

Rpage wrote:
 Can anyone identify the receiver in the photo section , UHF GE Repeater ?
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos
 There is no identification info stamped on or inside the receiver.
 The exciter board is 4EG21F1
 Any info would be helpfull.
 Thanks.

   
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[Repeater-Builder] Crystals for peaking generator?

2007-06-16 Thread George Henry
Anybody got a surplus 5350 KHz crystal (10.7 MHz out) crystal for a Motorola 
peaking generator that they'd be willing to part with?  I'd also be 
interested in crystals in the 7700 to 7800 range, to cover roughly 462 - 
468.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Mark Stennett
The answer to that really depends on who owns the site. And what you
negotiate with them. I know many hams who occupy such towers and some who
own them.

73 de na6m

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:11 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?
 
 I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
 
 I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
 members of the group.
 
 This is something that has been brought up to me.
 
 If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
 former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread texasexpediter
I wondered who read that new Carnegie book, How to Lose Friends and
Alienate Acquaintances and now I guess I know. I'd heard rumors they
were making rude and obnoxious pills and I guess that's true too.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Oh come on!
 
  
 
 Do you have something against ATT.
 
  
 
 If you do - don't do it!
 
  
 
 What a stupid question!  Is it going to sting you?  Do you think
it has
 some high voltage on it that might tickle you?
 
  
 
 Why would you ask such a stupid question?  A moron is born every day.
 
  
 
 W6CBS
 
  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hodgdon
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:11 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?
 
  
 
 I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
 
 I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
 members of the group.
 
 This is something that has been brought up to me.
 
 If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
 former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?





[Repeater-Builder] PM1500

2007-06-16 Thread careyfisher
I'm looking for technical documentation regarding interfacing the
PM1500 to external equipment.  Specifically, I need to know where the
COR and mic audio input connections are on J600 and any radio mods
necessary to make this work. Thanks, Carey 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Mark Stennett
The answer to that really depends on who owns the site. And what you
negotiate with them. I know many hams who occupy such towers and some who
own them.

73 de na6m

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:11 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?
 
 I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
 
 I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
 members of the group.
 
 This is something that has been brought up to me.
 
 If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
 former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Baby Monitor Picks UP NASA Video

2007-06-16 Thread Paul M Schmitter
It was probably somebody with a video sender unit
hooked to their satellite receviver so they could
watch it in another room without moving the receiver.
They use the same frequencies as baby monitors.
This was on shortnews.com and I posted the same info
there.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Interesting...
  
 PALATINE, Ill. (June 15) - An elementary school
 science  teacher in this 
 Chicago suburb doesn't have to turn on the news for
 an update on  NASA's space 
 mission. She just turns on her video baby monitor. 
 
 
 
 
 
 Since Sunday, one of the two channels on Natalie 
 Meilinger's baby monitor 
 has been picking up black-and-white video from
 inside  the space shuttle 
 Atlantis. The other still lets her keep an eye on
 her baby.  
 
 Whoever has a baby monitor knows what you'll
 usually see, Meilinger  said. 
 No one would ever expect this. 
 
 Live video of the mission is  available on NASA's
 Web site, so it's possible 
 the monitor is picking up a  signal from somewhere. 
 
 It's not coming straight from the shuttle, NASA 
 spokeswoman Brandi Dean 
 said. People here think this is very interesting
 and  you don't hear of it 
 often, if at all. 
 
 Doug Phelps, a member of an  amateur radio club in
 neighboring Schaumburg, 
 has an explanation. 
 
 His  organization, the Illinois chapter of the
 Motorola Amateur Radio Club,  
 rebroadcasts NASA video as a public service. It is
 likely the monitor is 
 picking  up the video because amateur radio operates
 on the same frequency as baby  
 monitors. 
 
 Members of Phelps' club have picked up audio from
 baby  monitors in the past. 
 
 If you had a receiver in the right frequency, 
 anybody in the public can 
 pick up this signal, he said. 
 
 Meilinger  silenced disbelieving co-workers by
 bringing in a video of the 
 monitor to show  her class on Tuesday, her students'
 last day of school. At home, 
 3-month-old  Jack and 2-year-old Rachel don't quite
 understand what their 
 parents are  watching. 
 
 I've been addicted to it and keep waiting to see
 what's  next, Meilinger 
 said. 
 
 Summer Infant, the monitor's manufacturer, is 
 investigating what could be 
 causing the transmission, communications director 
 Cindy Barlow said. She said 
 she's never heard of anything similar happening.  
 
 Not even close, she said. Gotta love technology.
  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 11:40 PM 6/15/2007, you wrote:
Having spoken with some builders that build facilities similar to
this, was informed to build such a location (exact standards) would
cost will close to a million dollars. But here is an opportunity to
purchase a ready made facility for less than $200,000.00.

OK - here's what I would say ...
I know that one similar site near here was sold to the local fire association
(and is now being used by an amateur club) for $5,000.

Larry Wagoner
N5WLW 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Tower ownership can be very costly.

Does the tower require lights?

If so the tower owner must ensure that the lights are maintained and 
operating properly.

I think FCC rules part 73 cover tower lights. IIRC, an outage must be 
repaired within 30 minutes or be reported to the FAA. The clock starts 
here. You have a short period of time to fix the lights, something like 30 
days.

The painting of the tower is important, if required. The FAA has paint 
fade charts to ensure that the paint is the proper shade. The proper use 
of these charts ensures that the tower is painted at the proper intervals.

I was an engineer for a company that made tower site monitoring equipment 
and got to know the rules pretty good, but that was a few years ago.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV


At 03:27 PM 06/16/07, you wrote:
Up until a few months ago, it was owned by ATT, then it was bought by
a private individual that is using it mainly for a storage building
and nothing else.

But, we may be in a posistion to use the tower as our own, or possible
be able to purchase it all.

We are looking into all of our options.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Who owns it now?
 
  Joe M.
 
  Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
  
   I have a question that I would like to throw out to the group.
  
   I have read some items on this, but would like to gather opinions from
   members of the group.
  
   This is something that has been brought up to me.
  
   If you had the opportunity to install your repeater antenna on a
   former ATT Tower would you do it, if not why?
  
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 







Yahoo! Groups Links







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread mch
While this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used to
be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the site
is.

Joe M.

Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
 
 If so the tower owner must ensure that the lights are maintained and
 operating properly.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yep. And I can't imagine how much it would cost to paint some of those old 
microwave towers. They were big structures.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?


 While this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
 even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
 making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used to
 be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the site
 is.

 Joe M.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread cruising7388
 
In a message dated 6/16/2007 5:38:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

While  this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
  even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
  making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used  to
 be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the  site
 is.




What FCC or CFR regulatory language holds a site tenant responsible any  site 
owner's deficiency that doesn't involve the tenant's  equipment?



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Jim McLaughlin
I could see this one coming for miles, as I'm sure many did.

Jim-WA9FPT


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?



  In a message dated 6/16/2007 5:38:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
While this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
 even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
 making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used to
 be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the site
 is.


  What FCC or CFR regulatory language holds a site tenant responsible any site 
owner's deficiency that doesn't involve the tenant's equipment?





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Eric Lemmon
That is correct.  Part 17 of the FCC Rules covers marking and lighting of
Antenna Structures.  FAA Advisory Circular AC 70/7460-1K covers the
specifics.  It might be a good idea to first determine if an Aeronautical
Study has been performed on the subject tower.  The FCC requires that the
7-digit Antenna Structure Registration number be posted at the base of the
tower.  You can look up that number at the FCC ASR Web site to see what
studies have been documented.

Unlighted towers that are required to be lighted can earn a $10,000 fine for
each day of non-compliance, and that fine will be collected from the tenants
if the tower owner can't be found or refuses to pay.  Bottom Line: Be
absolutely certain that you're not going to be saddled with breathtaking
fines and/or expenses if the owner bails.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 5:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

While this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used to
be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the site
is.

Joe M.

Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
 
 If so the tower owner must ensure that the lights are maintained and
 operating properly.




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Paul Finch
Steve,
 
Had a question from one of the guys, does D-star have NAC codes? or use IP?
Do we need to stress the need to coordinate or organize the NAC and access
codes.
 
Paul
 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard
(NU5D)
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?


You can't imagine the COSTS Chuck.  Ever been up 150 ft or so with a mitt
painting aviation orange with the 1 gal bucket supported by a shoulder
harness and spill 1/2 gal of aviation orange under your belt into your
underweartook a little while to get down on a hot summer day - latex
paint dries FAST !!!

Hey Honey, I'm home - guess what !


Steve NU5D

(not quite as bad as that under water welder in a wet suit with warm water
being pumped into his suit, when the suction picked up a jelly fish -
couldn't use the bathroom for 3 days...)   :-( 

Chuck Kelsey wrote: 

Yep. And I can't imagine how much it would cost to paint some of those old 

microwave towers. They were big structures.



Chuck

WB2EDV





  


 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-16 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The reason for tower registration by the tower owner is to have someone 
responsible for the vertical real estate.

A fine was imposed on Motorola due to a dark tower a year or so after a 
Hurricane Andrew destroyed Southern Florida. Motorola attempted to push the 
fine off on the tenants. The FCC said no (Motorola's under the table 
insurance policy had expired), that Motorola was responsible for the tower. 
Motorola shortly after this sold all (or at least most) of their vertical 
real estate and the FAA/FCC started the tower registration program.

All lighted towers are required to be registered. The registration names 
the entity that owns the structure and who is solely responsible for the 
proper maintenance of the tower markings. Until towers were registered, a 
crafty lawyer could divert the fine from the owner to the tenant.

At least this is how it was when I was working with tower site monitoring.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 07:27 PM 06/16/07, you wrote:
While this is true, ANYONE at the site can be fined for non-compliance -
even a ham radio group who is prohibited from climbing the tower or
making repairs. It doesn't matter who owns the tower anymore. It used to
be that only the tower owner was responsible. Now, everyone at the site
is.

Joe M.

Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
 
  If so the tower owner must ensure that the lights are maintained and
  operating properly.





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