Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need time delay circuit
At 09:19 PM 04/19/08, you wrote: I want to install a timer to inhibit ptt until my tubes warm up on my transmitter, anyone got any favorites? I am using a .375K Micor PURC and when power is interrupted and comes back on the exciter drives cold tubes. Motorola didn't think that was too much of a problem I guess. thanks tom Are you using the internal MSF controller or an external controller (NHRC, Link/RLC, Scom, etc) ? If external then it's easy to program a PTT defeat timer into the controller programming. If internal, then use one of these... several companies make them, all use the same pinout. Look here: http://www.newark.com/95F1620/electromechanical-industrial-control/product.us0?sku=AMPERITE-120AP5-300SDC This is a $60 item when new, but I've seen them in surplus for $2 to $5. Potter Brumfield and several others make the same item. You apply 120v AC to pins 2 and 7, and pins 1 and 3 go in series with PTT (or 8 and 6). And you don't need a 120v AC coil - you can use any voltage that the station has as a DC source that comes on when AC comes on (i.e. 12v, 24v, etc). And since most of the AC models have a DC circuit inside they have the AC side of a bridge rectifier connected to the input terminals... this means that you can use an AC one on DC. Or this kit may scratch your itch... http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=12340 Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value. But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 73 - Jim W5ZIT Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at least you could spring for a lousy connector! http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg Jeff W6JK - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
The small, cheap digital camera is a boon to any service-puke. One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial? If ham, that's the kind of crap that gives us a bad name in the business. If Commercial, well, it's par for the course,too; I've seen plenty of installations that got paid good money for, which were equal or worse than this one. But, out of sight, out of mind. And if you do the 'somersault' thing, take a video post it!! Chuk kb4mdz p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was really glad I had a new camera from eBay with me for testing. It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future. I appreciate all the comments; nobody else could relate to this like you guys do. Hmm, I wonder if the miscreant is in the Group, reading about what we think of him... The site manager was there when we arrived, and pointed it out to us. Unfortunately, the owner only cares about collecting the rent, so it's pretty hard to get kicked out. Other than end over end, I mean. :)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote: One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial? What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges. What was done was criminal damage to property - and if that is a significant length of hardline - it could be FELONY criminal damage to property. I would think that THAT would be the major issue. Larry N5WLW
[Repeater-Builder] Sad News - topozone.com Converts to Paid Service
topozone.com, previously a free source for geographic coordinate and topographic information, has now converted to a pay for service provider. Hopefully the same thing does not happen to google earth!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....
Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq. Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive. Randy --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, thanks Paul! From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Mark, The repeater is currently on 444.850 transmit and 449.850 Receive, the normal split. I am going to move it either up or down 12.5 KHz so I don't interfere with any repeaters in the area on the normal spilt. Lets say right now it's going to be on 444.8625 for now. I will let you know if that changes. Paul WB5IDM _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Well, Paul, I still don't have my tickets yet, either. although I paid for them a month ago. Been hearing more and more horror stories about how the Hamvention is being run. Also - what will be your repeater split? I don't think I understood your statement below. If a conventional 5MHz split is used, will your input be 449.850? Or were you trying to say you'll be on a 12.5 kHz splinter freq somewhere near that center freq? For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I can program them into my radios. Feel free to send along any freqs you will be using so I can add them in! Thanks, Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Mark, Thanks to the Hamvention's wonderful new registration system we still don't have my space numbers. As soon as I get them I will let all of message boards know. I will have a portable repeater there on the 12.5 KHz spit above or below 444.850 MHz on CTCSS of 110.9. Who know I may have a flashing beacon on top of the antenna, that is if I have enough battery power and gas for the generator! Paul WB5IDM _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first year at Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the important sights and activities. Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder handshake or is the group using any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get there hehehe Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Paul Finch wrote: I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then. I want a braut. ;-) Nate WY0X No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM
[Repeater-Builder] Re:Zetron ZMX dtmf mic
I am looking for the programming info too. Also the circuit diagram as well. Cheers Peter VK2ZZA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
I was really glad I had a new camera from eBay with me for testing. It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future. Cameras are so cheap nowadays you can always have a disposable 2mpixels camera on your pocket :o)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MSF5000
I appreciate the help! Thanks, Bill Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: tallinson2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:52:23 To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MSF5000 The switch you need, SW801, is Motorola part number 4083980R12, shown as: SW TGL BD MTG ON OFF MOM E107: List price $17.06. Motorola is your friend (as long as you come with money!) Glad it was something simple. Tom --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to everyone for their help. I opened everything up today... The VCOs were locked- so I unlocked them. I did find the problem. The accessory disable/reset switch seems to be malfunctioning. There are no longer 3 positions on the switch. It stays in acc disable- I can hold the switch in the middle and the repeater works great! Any ideas? Bill ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home. http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15amp;amp; aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15amp; ncid=aolhom000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry
Try this http://www.cqham.ru/rln4008d.htm Hope this help. 73 W4CSO - Original Message - From: Bob M. To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables? I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get power from the serial port to operate the circuitry built into the DB9 connector body. I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two computers but run fine on another one and I suspect some very slight differences in the serial port configurations when the machines are booted up. If you have links for such schematics, just post those rather than the entire image which won't make it through Yahoo's e-mail system. Thanks. Bob M. __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry
Did you check batlabs.com? Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:52 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables? I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get power from the serial port to operate the circuitry built into the DB9 connector body. I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two computers but run fine on another one and I suspect some very slight differences in the serial port configurations when the machines are booted up. If you have links for such schematics, just post those rather than the entire image which won't make it through Yahoo's e-mail system. Thanks. Bob M. __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manual Needed for TPL PA6-1BERX UHF Repeater Amp
You can download the manual here: http://169.237.38.248/sonic/tpl_uhf_.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony L. Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manual Needed for TPL PA6-1BERX UHF Repeater Amp Anybody have a service manual for this item that they can scan in and e- mail?
[Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's
Every repeater in my area ID's on the hour. Sounds to me like it is either the freq. (rate) of the ID, (Say every 15 Min.) or the reference to the website (More likely) that the FCC is having problems with. But MAINLY this station seems to be interfering with another station on A nearby freq. (Freq. Coordination, not required but HIGHLY recommended!) BTW, many Repeaters in my area, with the ID say The Time is or Good Afternoon/Morning, the time is, Does the FCC consider Broadcasting? I guess not. Bruce KE5TPN From: Paul M Schmitter That last paragraph is badly worded. Wheen I read it the first time, I understood it to mean that the reference to his website was the broadcasting being written about, but after reading it again, it leaves some doubt as to whether the IDer is also considered broadcasting. --- Tony L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most recent case posted on the FCC's Amateur Radio enforcement actions web site is this one: http://www.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/BEDNA07_05_25_1078.pdf --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone point me to the specific enforcement case or warning letter where the FCC first said that regular, periodic repeater ID's irrespective of repeater usage were broadcasting and had to stop? The FCC's online archives don't seem to go back far enough (seems to me it was in the 80's), and all the references that DID turn up dealt with specific interference cases, not the broadcasting issue. A news item in a QST or CQ column would be sufficient... Thanks. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted
Try Max-Gain Systems in Marietta GA. They have a wide assortment of fiberglass tubes. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mel Farrer Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted There is another source of telescoping fiberglass tubing. Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lots of sizes and lengths are shippable. Cheers. Mel K6KBE - Original Message From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:53:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted I know of a source of fiberglass Cubical Quad arms that may be suitable for the project. They are in Lyme Connecticut and are not easily shipped because of the length. Probably would be pickup only. 73, Joe, K1ike Howard wrote: Hello to all. I am looking for a source for a fiberglass tube for a home brew colinear antenna of the Stationmaster type. Any suggestions appreciated. Howard W2AFD _ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http:/tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/t ext5.com month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB4055 Duplexer
Nate, Thanks for bringing that to my attention! That is weird. The info I have in the document came from a Decibel Products catalog. We now have three freq ranges for the DB4076, all from manufacturer documents. Hm. Since official info conflicts, I guess all I can (or should?) do is add a note about the situation and list the various frequency ranges we have. I will add what specs that document provides on the 4075 while I'm at it. I'll add a note about the Z and W suffix which I wasn't aware of either. Sounds like you had a fun project there! 73, Paul Paul, Confused here... your document at that specs page shows the DB-4076 as being a high UHF duplexer (485-505 MHz) while right here on RB, the duplexer's manual says it's much wider (404-512) on the top of the manual, and then that same manual says it's a completely different range (450-512) in the description text in the document. Weird. http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4076-tuning.pdf I'd just say it's a typo in the title of the manual... but... A friend and I just tuned a 4075 with an added can -- making it into a 4076 (the square/brown painted variety that were often found in GE MASTR II cabinets with a GE part number on them) -- to the 446 range tonight. Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value. But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 73 - Jim W5ZIT Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someonebr has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece ofbr RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at least you could spring for a lousy connector! http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg Jeff W6JK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....
One of the largest repeater systems in the US is just down the road on 145.190. However, will be more than busy during Dayton. Last I heard 145.19 had over 32 rcv sites and 7 distant city repeaters linked in. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/20 Sun PM 11:29:43 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need At 4/20/2008 07:12, you wrote: For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I can program them into my radios. Feel free to send along any freqs you will be using so I can add them in! Thanks, Mark N9WYS One of the most popular local systems is WF8M 443.775 (+) PL-131.8. Has IRLP (node 4267), which makes it rather busy all hamvention weekend. The system I'll be linking my portable repeater to in Miamisburg (WB8VSU 442.300 (+) PL-123.0) also has IRLP (node 4235) but doesn't cover Hara as well so hasn't been very busy. Bob NO6B Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cushman C E-3 Operations / Service Manual - Available?
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ocwarren2000 w7tio@ wrote: Hi everybody... The replacment CD-ROM of the Cushman CE-3 Operations / Service Manual came today, and so far it doesn't look like a mismarked Lotus Pro install system! I've uploaded it into this board's files. Should this manual be available immediately, or does it take some time to be posted? I'm not finding it anywhere, yet. Laryn K8TVZ Good quetion... I have no idea, and I thought I put it there!! Dick, W7TIO
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....
OK, I will leave it on 444.850, CTCSS of 110.9. Plus 5 MHz input. Thanks, Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wb8art Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq. Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive. Randy --- In HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m, n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, thanks Paul! From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:38 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Mark, The repeater is currently on 444.850 transmit and 449.850 Receive, the normal split. I am going to move it either up or down 12.5 KHz so I don't interfere with any repeaters in the area on the normal spilt. Lets say right now it's going to be on 444.8625 for now. I will let you know if that changes. Paul WB5IDM _ From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of n9wys Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:12 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Well, Paul, I still don't have my tickets yet, either. although I paid for them a month ago. Been hearing more and more horror stories about how the Hamvention is being run. Also - what will be your repeater split? I don't think I understood your statement below. If a conventional 5MHz split is used, will your input be 449.850? Or were you trying to say you'll be on a 12.5 kHz splinter freq somewhere near that center freq? For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I can program them into my radios. Feel free to send along any freqs you will be using so I can add them in! Thanks, Mark - N9WYS From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:01 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need Mark, Thanks to the Hamvention's wonderful new registration system we still don't have my space numbers. As soon as I get them I will let all of message boards know. I will have a portable repeater there on the 12.5 KHz spit above or below 444.850 MHz on CTCSS of 110.9. Who know I may have a flashing beacon on top of the antenna, that is if I have enough battery power and gas for the generator! Paul WB5IDM _ From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of n9wys Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:21 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first year at Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the important sights and activities. Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder handshake or is the group using any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get there hehehe Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m mailto:Repeater--Builder%40yahoog-roups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Paul Finch wrote: I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then. I want a braut. ;-) Nate WY0X No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?
-Original Message- From: Bruce Bagwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 8, 2008 1:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's [snip] This message was posted 2 WEEKS AGO Does Yahoo have the hiccups?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
And most likely a violation of federal statutes for disrupting the communications system (Jeff's)... But other than targeting the club/company that owns the offending station (the one that the RG-58 was connected to) you'd be hard pressed to charge any individual... because in most cases, you have to prove criminal intent on the part of the individual. And without evidence indicating WHO cut the coax and soldered on the RG-58, I don't think there's a District Attorney or State's Attorney who'd touch that case. (I'd think that there's nobody THAT stupid as to come forth and say, Yep, I did it.) Now if it became a regular occurrence, I'd be inclined to install an ATV camera/videotape recorder and monitor my equipment... to protect my assets AND enhance the possibility of prosecution. (Of course with the requisite signage...) Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Larry Wagoner Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote: One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial? What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges. What was done was criminal damage to property - and if that is a significant length of hardline - it could be FELONY criminal damage to property. I would think that THAT would be the major issue. Larry N5WLW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
Copper thefts are up all over the country... In my area, new construction sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper tubing (water systems). One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though. How can they - in good conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in coils, as scrap??? As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their stuff, they'll keep stealing it... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Wright Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value. But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 73 - Jim W5ZIT Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someonebr has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece ofbr RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at least you could spring for a lousy connector! http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg Jeff W6JK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Brauts and visual cues
... they seem to most often be semi upwind from Kevin/Ken's area. Since the topic came up, Repeater-Builder, as a company, will NOT be making an official showing at this year's Hamvention. Kevin is working full-time at his job, and a Dayton booth is a lot for my wife and I to handle with a 4 year old and a 18 month old. (children, not radios) While it is definitely nice to see all the guys and chew the fat, the last time we made the Dayton adventure we lot our shirt. 'Till you figure that the two weeks leading up to the show are spent preparing, and the 2 weeks after are spent recovering; you have lost a month's worth of bench / family time. This does not include the $70 per space cost or the absorbent hotel rates for the weekend. *IF* the weather is good, you *MAY* just enjoy yourself. too many variables for me. My wife and I do plan on attending the show as spectators. Since my wife is from the Indianapolis area, we simply drive to my in-laws place on Thursday and hand off the kids. We wake up on Friday morning, leisurely drive the 1 1/2hrs. to Dayton, and enjoy the show. The grandparents have a great time playing with the kids, and everyone is happy!! It's hard to say exactly where you might find us at the show, but for those who would like to have an eyeball, e-mail me and I can provide my cell number or a frequency we may be monitoring and we can make arrangements to meet that way. I hope to run into some list members at the show. I'll have my RB hat on!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Brauts and visual cues Re: So where are these famous brats being sold? You'll smell them the minute you hit the flea market... they seem to most often be semi upwind from Kevin/Ken's area. When the wind turns 180 the smoke blows toward my groups space. Some of us Repeater Builder Group Members are pretty easy to spot... we wear a yellow plastic construction helmet with a small wire metal tower on the top. Sometimes the tower is replaced by a vhf rubber duck antenna. These days a secret handshake might be a bit over the top... some people have clammy palms. :-) cheers, s. n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first year at Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the important sights and activities. Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder handshake or is the group using any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get there hehehe Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Paul Finch wrote: I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then. I want a braut. ;-) Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
One of our repeater sites had all of the copper ground wire stolen from the tower base and the guy stations. There wasn't much copper and I don't think there was enough money to be had out of that copper to buy a case of beer! Eric, VA3EAM n9wys wrote: Copper thefts are up all over the country... In my area, new construction sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper tubing (water systems). One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though. How can they - in good conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in coils, as scrap??? As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their stuff, they'll keep stealing it... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Wright Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:w5zit%40yahoo.com Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value. But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 73 - Jim W5ZIT Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jeffk%40lafn.org wrote: Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someonebr has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece ofbr RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at least you could spring for a lousy connector! http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg http://www.lafn.org/%7Ejeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg Jeff W6JK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sad News - topozone.com Converts to Paid Service
At 4/21/2008 05:10, you wrote: topozone.com, previously a free source for geographic coordinate and topographic information, has now converted to a pay for service provider. Hopefully the same thing does not happen to google earth! Try the Acme mapper: http://acme.com Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?
Yahoo is ' the ' worst email and forums based group on the planet. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:47 AM - MGMT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp? http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=104168/grpspId=1705063108/msgId= 81150/stime=1208789202/nc1=5028928/nc2=4990221/nc3=4763762
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....
At 4/21/2008 05:54, you wrote: Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq. Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive. Randy Agreed. If you have to move to avoid something, chances are you're still going to interfere with that something if you only move 12.5 kHz away. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?
Yahoo is ' the ' worst email and forums based group on the planet. Americans says there is no such thing as a free lunch. You get what you pay for :o) Greetings from Brazil Alexandre - PU1BZZ PS: When you take something for free, for a lot of time, people always thinks it is mandatory.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
Mark and Group, I own and operate a 500 foot commercial radio tower, it's the way I pay for my very addictive Ham Radio hobby. Every bit of the copper that can be inside the new tower facility I am building on is on the inside under lock and key. The Lowlife Scumbags would have to break down the door to get at it. I have several other security measures I will not mention here. I have about 150 pounds (maybe more) of copper in the ground system inside and about 40 outside, it will have wood covering it once installed. Good thing is, I live about 350 feet from the building and will have about 8 cameras located inside and outside the building hooked to a DVR and fiber from the building to my house so I can watch the facility from there. In Texas, at least some cities have passed laws that state a valid Picture ID must be shown to sell the copper. I think the state has also passed some kind of law pertaining to copper thieves as you can tell from the snip below I found with Google. The guy that shot the thief was a State legislator! Don't Mess With Texas Copper. HYPERLINK http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899http://www.sta teline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899 HYPERLINK http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899; Friday, July 13, 2007 Copper thefts trigger widespread crackdown By Kathleen Haughney, Special to Stateline.org A Texas legislator made headlines this week for shooting a man allegedly stealing copper pipes from a new home the lawmaker is constructing. Copper theft is so rampant that 20 states — including Texas — passed laws this year to try to squelch shady scrap-metal sales. By the way, Jack Webb and Johnny Carson discussed this very problem decades ago See: HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVjW30I-YUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g pVjW30I-YU Paul No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM facebook_share_icon.gif?12:26981 Description: Binary data
Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
Many metal cost are up. Aluminum is another. Our local gov requires all major road construction to have side walks and in many places with deep drop offs hand rails are required and these are nice Aluminum. The thieves bring their tools and unbolt them. Some are longer than 30 ft. In America there are all kinds of ways of making money. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 10:01:28 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter) Copper thefts are up all over the country... In my area, new construction sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper tubing (water systems). One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though. How can they - in good conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in coils, as scrap??? As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their stuff, they'll keep stealing it... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Wright Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value. But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 73 - Jim W5ZIT Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someonebr has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece ofbr RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at least you could spring for a lousy connector! http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg Jeff W6JK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. Yahoo! Groups Links Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RIB-less cable circuitry
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Camilo So [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this http://www.cqham.ru/rln4008d.htm Hope this help. 73 W4CSO That is the OLD circuit for the RIB Radio Interface Box.. - Original Message - From: Bob M. Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables? I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get power from the serial port to operate the circuitry built into the DB9 connector body. I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two computers but run fine on another one and I suspect some very slight differences in the serial port configurations when the machines are booted up. If you have links for such schematics, just post those rather than the entire image which won't make it through Yahoo's e-mail system. Thanks. Bob M.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax. Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss? I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one male and one female 7/8 N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually manage a taller tower. I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables themselves, but no mentions of same for assorted connectors. YMMV Wayne WA2YNE On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:37 -0500, ka9qjg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I not seen the Pic Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be
1. Dayton rule book as ammended for 2008 - with complete do's and donts while attending the hamfest (hamventiuon is copyrighted) and specifically noting the penalties for transgressing ANY of the regulations. 2. The complete Ohio State Manual of fire regulations as ammended for 2008. 3. Over priced tickets and space rental tags 4. Parka - with hood and artic mittens 5. Galoshes or waders depending on the day (a suggestion was made last year about bringing 33 gal trash bags to use as rain coats for the optomists who don't think it will rain.) 6. Dry socks 4 pair and other bits of apparel that may get wet. 7. Tent or canopy with several hundred pounds of lead weights to combat the gentle 45 Knot Dayton breeze. 8. Sleeping accomodations within 75 miles of Hara Arena and sleeping pills, eye shade, ear muffs to combat the drunken brawl in the next room or possibly in the same room. 9. 14 handie talkies, pagers, cellphones, GPS, Video Camera, PDA or Blackberry, and belt large enuf to accomodate them all at the same time. This year try to remember the battery chargers. 9(a). Bandolero with spare batteries (AA-AAA-C-D and assorted button cells) for all this electronic paraphernalia. 10. Goofy hat with antennas sticking out for at least 4 bands extra credit for Beam. 11. Laminated Dayton Hamfest I.D. badge (I heard a rumor that passports may be required)This year the rumor is A DNA sample. 12. scrolling electronic sign front and back telling anyone and everyone who you are what freqs you are monitoring and your email address. 13. Bail Money 14. Map of hamfest grounds with all portapotties marked in red. 15. Snow chains - you never can tell in Dayton. 16. SPF 55 sunscreen - you never can tell when your in Dayton. 17 - Laser transit and 100 ft tape measure to align your tables to avoid reprimand from the alignment police. Heaven forbid you should creep over the painted yellow lines and encroach on the footpath-driveway which you can't drive on anyway after 8 a.m. 18 - Despite all this try to have a fun time. 19. - Remember the motto - He who dies with the most toys...wins! Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 Chicago, IL 60631-0353 773.631.5130 fax 773.775.8096 web http://www.mdmradio.com - email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIRECT ALL EMAIL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Wayne If you have access to a Andrew catalog number 37 Look on page 588 bottom right of the page I think this will answer your question Ralph Messer [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Waynemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax. Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss? I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one male and one female 7/8 N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually manage a taller tower. I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables themselves, but no mentions of same for assorted connectors. YMMV Wayne WA2YNE On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:37 -0500, ka9qjg [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I not seen the Pic Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/http://www.opera.com/mail/ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Wayne wrote: Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax. CSI: Radio Towers -- Coming soon to CBS! (We already tried CSI: Cedar Rapids but it didn't do well with the audiences -- they fell asleep.) Maybe Kevin or Scott could be called in as expert witness special guest stars? And of course, all radio sites will have to be dark, so even mid-day the investigators will have to look around with powerful flashlights to find that one clue they missed at the scene when they were there two days ago. LOL! Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss? Amphenol actually does make a (relatively expensive) hardline splicing kit. Works well, according to the club techs who had to use one once on one of our runs of 7/8 that was damaged. I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one male and one female 7/8 N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually manage a taller tower. If you can't do new feedline for the whole run, get a splicing kit and not connectors. Better yet, consider it part of the cost of moving and don't move if you can't replace the line. That'd be my take on it. Build to commercial standards, or don't build... you'll only be back later fixing it... like anything else hammy I've ever seen/dealt with. But we all here understand the reality of budgets, or lack thereof... (sigh)... Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB4055 Duplexer
Paul N1BUG wrote: Nate, Thanks for bringing that to my attention! No problem, it's a head-scratcher. That is weird. The info I have in the document came from a Decibel Products catalog. We now have three freq ranges for the DB4076, all from manufacturer documents. Hm. Since official info conflicts, I guess all I can (or should?) do is add a note about the situation and list the various frequency ranges we have. Heh. Your mileage may vary. I will add what specs that document provides on the 4075 while I'm at it. I'll add a note about the Z and W suffix which I wasn't aware of either. I'm getting the impression it's going to be like the Linksys WRT-54GS, yeah, there's six models of that router now, or more, all with different hardware guts. Uggh. Sounds like you had a fun project there! I haven't forgotten that I'd measure those cables, but have been busy and the duplexer's in use at the moment. I'll get it before the end of the week. Usually when it comes to projects like this, they ARE fun for me, but it's like drinking from the fire-hose. I are just a dumb ham. My friend in this case, is an RF engineer with at least 20+ years in the industry, so I look at the instrument and say, Wow that looks bad. and think to myself, Wonder how you fix that? He says with ease... Ahh... this shows us that the length of the cables to the 'tee' are wrong. Here, let me grab about six random length cables that are shorter/longer than the ones installed and we'll figure out which direction it needs to go! Five minutes later, the thing's doing factory spec on the desired frequency with a perfect pattern and a custom-made cable. At that point I'm usually dumbfounded... Um, could you explain that... I mean, I think I get why that worked, but... Then he dumbs it down for me... Okay, if that's a pass cavity pair, and we're feeding it into a T, what does that make this cable and T? A transmission line... and what do transmission lines do? Etc... etc. (Thank God I read the whole chapter on transmission line theory in the ARRL Antenna Book and barely understood all of it. @*#@# Smith Charts!) And then I leave, go home, and think about it for a couple of months, and then one day the light-bulb goes on and I call him all excited... HEY! I understand why that worked now! And he laughs and tells me something else I didn't know... But in the meantime, he's shown me enough information to experiment on my own, which is what it's all about. Then I go find some crappy cans that we'd never use on a hill, and set them up on my IFR and start playing. It's just like little kids... you can hand 'em a ball and they'll throw it around, but it takes a bit more effort to teach them to play baseball! I hunted for two years to find that damn IFR at a reasonable price (yeah, test gear that costs more than I paid for my first car is reasonable? ha!) so I could go home and play after these sessions. Prior to that I was just frustrated... I'd learned something, but I knew I'd forget all about what I'd learned by the next time I was anywhere near a tracking-generator/spectrum analyzer combo (or service monitor). When hobby mixes with professional experience... it makes my brain hurt, because I get forced into learning something -- pros won't let you remain a dumb-ass for long. You eat up too much of their time. But yeah, it's fun... I guess. :-) I keep hearing all sorts of comments from pros who say things like, I'd sure like to put this thing on the Vector Network Analyzer. Never seen anything done on one of those, but everyone you run into says they're the only way to fly when tuning something up. Someday I'll see one in action, hopefully. They seem to only reside in labs that are well-equipped and inaccessible to most normal folk. (Yeah, someone on here pointed out that older models sometimes do go cheap on FleaBay, but I'd get it home and stare at it stupidly wondering where to start with it. Haha. I'll stick with the IFR and proper loads on the ports on the cans... that get's me close enough for government work for the time being.) I still want to hunt down a nice 10 GHz disciplined clock source to feed the gear in the basement lab -- why? Because I can... well, if I find the right deal and it doesn't come right after the tax man. :-) Nate WY0X
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
On most mail programs if you include a set of characters around the link it won't break on a word wrap. Like this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupssec=groupslk=1 This trick is part of the URL specification (RFC 1738 by Tim Berners-Lee), and properly written email programs respect the characters. Mike WA6ILQ At 06:24 AM 04/20/08, you wrote: I see the link line wrapped so you will need to copy and paste it two sections starting at the http all the way to the space but do not include the comma. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT Joe, The easiest way to find it is go to Yahoo, click on Groups, click in the Search field and type in Hamvention. It is the first one on the list. Steve B. sent a link yesterday that would take you directly to it, did you get it? If not try this link; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupssec =groupslk=1 , Yahoo search is your friend! The name is Dayton Hamvention. Anything else? Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT Still waiting for the list name Joe M. MCH wrote: List NAME??? Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Hello, If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds like the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just thought I would mention it. Paul No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 5:24 PM Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 5:24 PM Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
The site manager had doped out which cables should go where, and tie-wrapped the appropriate cut ends together. It's obvious who is using our antenna, but not so clear who cut the cables. He's the one we'd really like to nab. No cables were taken, they were only cut. It's a ham-only site, so at least the pros aren't shaking their heads over all this. Jeff --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
Mike, I tried that several times with no luck and gave up. Maybe they have fixed the problem letting the 's fix the line wrap problem. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT On most mail programs if you include a set of characters around the link it won't break on a word wrap. Like this: HYPERLINK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupsse c=groupslk=1http://groups.-yahoo.com/-group/hamvention-/?v=1t=search-ch= webpub=-groupssec=-groupslk=-1 This trick is part of the URL specification (RFC 1738 by Tim Berners-Lee)-, and properly written email programs respect the characters. Mike WA6ILQ At 06:24 AM 04/20/08, you wrote: I see the link line wrapped so you will need to copy and paste it two sections starting at the http all the way to the space but do not include the comma. Paul -Original Message- From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT Joe, The easiest way to find it is go to Yahoo, click on Groups, click in the Search field and type in Hamvention. It is the first one on the list. Steve B. sent a link yesterday that would take you directly to it, did you get it? If not try this link; HYPERLINK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=groupsse chttp://groups.-yahoo.com/-group/hamvention-/?v=1t=search-ch=webpub=-gro upssec =groupslk=-1 , Yahoo search is your friend! The name is Dayton Hamvention. Anything else? Paul -Original Message- From: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:49 PM To: HYPERLINK mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] m Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT Still waiting for the list name Joe M. MCH wrote: List NAME??? Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Hello, If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds like the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just thought I would mention it. Paul No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 5:24 PM --- Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 5:24 PM --- Yahoo! Groups Links --- Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM --- Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM --- Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: 20. Soap 21. Dedoderant. This isn't the Navy circa WWII. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
Jeff, I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Jeff Kincaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 04:54:19 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter The site manager had doped out which cables should go where, and tie-wrapped the appropriate cut ends together. It's obvious who is using our antenna, but not so clear who cut the cables. He's the one we'd really like to nab. No cables were taken, they were only cut. It's a ham-only site, so at least the pros aren't shaking their heads over all this. Jeff --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building. Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi. Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this is the case. Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote: I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it. Or at the very least is responsible - given that that person's equipment is connected. One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ... And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the criminal damage, not the use of the antenna. Finally ... if nothing else - how about feeding some 240 AC down the line from the splice point to the offender's equipment. Larry N5WLW
[Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external controller's time out functions, I would like to have a backup timer in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, the pulse input to start the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
[Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay
spectra radio dead from ebay want to fix this radio no display need schematics need to know if radio will power up without control head has front panel pcb has power in entire unit do i need ignition sense hooked up recapped display board and will recap other boards will sit down with other boards and scope out radio used but not too abused have mic also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor 15 years as bench tech for radio shack i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them wm9v
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
There was an article in QST years ago about how to use a 555 timer for cor and timeout timer with a hang timer, I actually built one and it worked. I think it would work in your situation. Maybe some kind soul could find it and post it. tom [Original Message] From: w6jll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/21/2008 7:21:37 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external controller's time out functions, I would like to have a backup timer in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, the pulse input to start the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
Why don't you simply use an MVP carrier control timer or duplicate the circuit that they used? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer There was an article in QST years ago about how to use a 555 timer for cor and timeout timer with a hang timer, I actually built one and it worked. I think it would work in your situation. Maybe some kind soul could find it and post it. tom [Original Message] From: w6jll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/21/2008 7:21:37 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external controller's time out functions, I would like to have a backup timer in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, the pulse input to start the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass An tenna, information wanted
Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
Here's one for a Mastr II. You'd need to change some fixed values to stretch the time longer. http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4979d.pdf Chuck - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer Why don't you simply use an MVP carrier control timer or duplicate the circuit that they used? Chuck WB2EDV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted
look here: http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf --- On Mon, 4/21/08, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:39 PM Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay
Start here: http://www.batlabs.com/spectra.html Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ mikewm9v wrote: spectra radio dead from ebay want to fix this radio no display need schematics need to know if radio will power up without control head has front panel pcb has power in entire unit do i need ignition sense hooked up recapped display board and will recap other boards will sit down with other boards and scope out radio used but not too abused have mic also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor 15 years as bench tech for radio shack i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them wm9v Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Om ni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted
Thanks for this one: http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm That has the specs I need. The next one: http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf was similar to the one I had found, but did not show the specs I was looking for. It did show that the PD220 was available from 25-299.9Mhz. Has anyone seen a Superstationmaster for 25-50Mhz? I didn't know they made them for that low in frequency. 73, Joe, K1ike Ralph Mowery wrote: look here: http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf --- On Mon, 4/21/08, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:39 PM Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay
On Apr 21, 2008, at 4:54 PM, mikewm9v wrote: spectra radio dead from ebay want to fix this radio no display need schematics need to know if radio will power up without control head No... has front panel pcb has power in entire unit do i need ignition sense hooked up Yes... recapped display board and will recap other boards will sit down with other boards and scope out radio used but not too abused have mic also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor 15 years as bench tech for radio shack i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them wm9v Do you get anything out of the speaker at power up? KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Info Wanted: RE: Motorola Channel Elements parts
I recently ordered TX and RX crystals from ICM for the MICOR RT Station. I specified the correct FC and FX and catalog # 167380 for MOT KNX1018C TX (132-174). When these crystals were received they would not net on frequency. The TX was over 20Khz. high and would not net any closer. I notified ICM and their Customer Service Dept., agreed to replace the TX crystal. When I received this replacement crystal, it was over 30Khz. high! I sent another email and got a reply from the owner, Royden Freeland, W5EMH, stating the following: To get the crystal to tune properly you will need to change L1 to 2.6-2.7uh and C6 to 1-10 pf depending on the crystal to get it on frequency at close to center trim. Each element was compensated and tuned for the original crystal so if you are changing frequency very far there can be problems. Motorola generally used a crystal load of 32pf in elements with trimmers and varied components within the element to bring it on frequency. ICM will be happy to install the crystal and compensate the element if you would prefer. We would charge $60.00 to install and compensate your element and crystal. I have printed out the channel element schmetic and picture (from W3KCC) repeater-Builders website and see that C6 is the trimmer and L1, but no values are represented. Can anyone tell me what the current value of the inductor L1 is? If it's currently higher in value, can it be rewound for the 2.7uH inductance ICM references? I believe there is enough room to insert a fixed cap of proper C in series to drop the tuning range of the C6, to perhaps the 1-10pf. I have looked at Mouser Electronics for a trimmer 1- 10pf and 2.7uH axil-lead inductor, L1without success. If they are available, can you please stear me to where I can purchase one or both? I always thought that you sent ICOM's back for temperature compensation and not for simple exchance of crystals. I have never needed to to that with any GE MASTR series TX RX or Mocom 70 series or any EF Johnson series that simply required new crystals. But again, that was 20 years ago, which is a long time. Any advice would be appreciated as I don't need to spend another $120 to install the crystal and compensate the element. TNX is advance...Dennis - W4DG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted
Gain is 4.5 dB. It's reduced from the 6 dB of the 150 MHz version since they can't fit as many elements in it due to the frequency. Not sure about the bandwidth offhand. Joe M. Joe wrote: Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
FWIW, we installed a splicing kit at our site last summer to replace a piece of damaged 7/8. The loss was negligible, especially compared to what it would have cost us to replace an additional 250' of helix. If money were no object, I'd go for a brand new mother-run of 7/8, but since they do call this AMATEUR radio, sometimes we've got to accept the next best thing. YMMV, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter Wayne wrote: Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax. CSI: Radio Towers -- Coming soon to CBS! (We already tried CSI: Cedar Rapids but it didn't do well with the audiences -- they fell asleep.) Maybe Kevin or Scott could be called in as expert witness special guest stars? And of course, all radio sites will have to be dark, so even mid-day the investigators will have to look around with powerful flashlights to find that one clue they missed at the scene when they were there two days ago. LOL! Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss? Amphenol actually does make a (relatively expensive) hardline splicing kit. Works well, according to the club techs who had to use one once on one of our runs of 7/8 that was damaged. I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one male and one female 7/8 N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually manage a taller tower. If you can't do new feedline for the whole run, get a splicing kit and not connectors. Better yet, consider it part of the cost of moving and don't move if you can't replace the line. That'd be my take on it. Build to commercial standards, or don't build... you'll only be back later fixing it... like anything else hammy I've ever seen/dealt with. But we all here understand the reality of budgets, or lack thereof... (sigh)... Nate WY0X image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fibergl ass Antenna, information wanted
Joe, RFS/Celwave continues to manufacture the Super StationMaster antennas pioneered by Phelps-Dodge. Go here: www.rfsworld.com/websearch/DataSheets/Default.aspx?q=220-2N for the data sheet. The PD220-2N antenna is designed to cover the 142-150 MHz band, but the gain is limited to 4.8 dBd due to length constraints. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike
[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question
We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly operate?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question
It depends on band, split, power, and antenna gain. On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:00:23 - Christopher Hodgdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly operate?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be
Please! Soap and Deodorant! There were a lot of ripe souls the last time I went. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: 20. Soap 21. Dedoderant. This isn't the Navy circa WWII. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR HYPERLINK mailto:kris%40catonic.us[EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)
Would be better to catch the person in the act and then use a Burdizzo on him, ha ha ha... Or maybe put a band on him like I did with my former buckling. Then toss him over the edge into a stand of Mesquite Yes, I can think of some things to get even... Wayne WA2YNE On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:55:26 -0500, n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And most likely a violation of federal statutes for disrupting the communications system (Jeff's)... But other than targeting the club/company that owns the offending station (the one that the RG-58 was connected to) you'd be hard pressed to charge any individual... because in most cases, you have to prove criminal intent on the part of the individual. And without evidence indicating WHO cut the coax and soldered on the RG-58, I don't think there's a District Attorney or State's Attorney who'd touch that case. (I'd think that there's nobody THAT stupid as to come forth and say, Yep, I did it.) Now if it became a regular occurrence, I'd be inclined to install an ATV camera/videotape recorder and monitor my equipment... to protect my assets AND enhance the possibility of prosecution. (Of course with the requisite signage...) Mark - N9WYS -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question
Christopher, According to my CommShop program, a 144 MHz repeater with a 50 watt transmitter and a receiver having 0.3 uV sensitivity will require around 90 dB of isolation to avoid desense with a typical receiver. That isolation can be achieved with about 220 feet of vertical separation or about 21,300 feet (four miles!) of horizontal separation. I made the assumption that you're planning a 2m repeater, which has only 600 kHz of TX-RX separation. If the repeater is going to be a 70cm machine, with 5 MHz separation, the numbers are easier to swallow. With the same power level and sensitivity, a vertical separation of 40 feet or a horizontal separation of 975 feet would give the needed 72 dB isolation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing) repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly operate?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted
I thought it was 4.5, but I'll accept your figure of 4.8 dB. Interestingly enough, that Wiscointl link someone provided says 5.25 for the entire 136-174 MHz segment (except the DT model). Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, RFS/Celwave continues to manufacture the Super StationMaster antennas pioneered by Phelps-Dodge. Go here: www.rfsworld.com/websearch/DataSheets/Default.aspx?q=220-2N for the data sheet. The PD220-2N antenna is designed to cover the 142-150 MHz band, but the gain is limited to 4.8 dBd due to length constraints. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters? All I find are general specs from 25-299.9Mhz. I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth. 73, Joe, K1ike Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
Pull the trigger low through a capacitor...it will magically become a low-going pulse. 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of w6jll Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external controller's time out functions, I would like to have a backup timer in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, the pulse input to start the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the COR-2 circuit)
The 555 will do the job just fine... you need only configure it properly, which for me ended up being the same circuit Hamtronics used in their early COR-2 Board. Simply copy that circuit less the hang timer portion and you're set. I wish I could claim credit for it... but the circuit design was originally done by Hamtronics (Jerry). I and a few other group members can Email you the diagram if you contact us direct off the list. Most of us group readers via the web don't receive email attachments through the yahoo groups anyway. The really nice thing about billing things from kits is how you end up keeping good circuits around for use in other applications. The COR 2 Circuit is a great circuit, wish they still made and sold the kit, but now I roll my own. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com w6jll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external controller's time out functions, I would like to have a backup timer in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, the pulse input to start the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
