Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Mastr II PLL Exciter
The PLL exciters with the missing daughter boards are more and more common. I have a whole stack of radios with PLL exciters, but missing the daughter boards. (the BPF and audio processor) We at Repeater-Builder have brewed up a BPF module that is a direct replacement for the OEM GE version. I have parts to stuff them for either 136-150, 150-174 or 220-225 MHz. These boards are $20 each. We have also in the process of laying out an OEM style audio processor for the PLL exciter. These will be completed as time permits. These will sell for around $30 each. So, for $50 extra, you could turn a PLL exciter with missing boards into a working unit. These prices may come down depending on how many we can sell. (You know, the more you make the cheaper they become.) We *are* taking pre-orders at this time. If you don't want to wait for the audio processors to be complete, we do have a solution using an adapter board and one of our AP-50 modules: http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ap-50.html The AP-50 runs $50. The adapter board adds $10. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Laryn Lohman wrote: I shoulda picked one up at Dayton... I'm working on a 2M repeater and have replaced the multiplier exciter with a PLL exciter. I love these things-- very clean output and one tuning coil. The PLL exciter I had on hand has no audio processor module, so I'm looking for a complete PLL exciter. Then I'll have spare parts on hand too. Reply to my call at arrl dot net. Thanks! Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2145 - Release Date: 05/31/09 05:53:00
[Repeater-Builder] KA4MKG Mike Pugh Obituary
PUGH Michael O, KA4MKG, 56, passed away May 27, 2009 at his home. His wife Jeanie Dalton survives him. Other survivors are his father, Robert Pugh, and two brothers, Maurice and Malcolm Pugh all from Florence, KY. Mike was a self-employed and part-time keyboard musician. Mike was an amateur radio operator for 30 years and an Elmer to many. His wife, Jeanie, amateur radio and being a keyboard musician was his love and passion. Mike will be greatly missed by many. A memorial Service will be held Thu, June 4, 2009 at Lansdowne Cumberland Presbyterian Church, 333 Redding Road at 3pm.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Purc 5000
Thanks Jay I think I need to concentrate on the station control board, the front panel it's called Purc control so if you have anything on that , that would get me started. Thanks again Jay Randy On 30-May-09, at 11:23 AM, jaythienel wrote: Randy, Let me know what part of the manual you need, I may be able to help. The only part I am familiar with on this is the Ultra High Stability Oscillator for the other bands, not 940MHz. But it looks like they use a doubler somewhere so the VCO is at 1/2 the final output frequency. As far as I can see the amps for 940MHz are the same as the MSF5000. If you study the schematics you can see the design progress from model to model. It has similar design parts of a Micor, Syntor, Syntor X. Presently using one low band UHSO to drive a Master II low band exciter for 6 meters. 73, Jay no2g --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Randy Elliott jan...@... wrote: Greetings to the Group I have a Purc 5000 paging transmitter that I am trying to convert to 900mhz. It is programmed via eprom to TX frequency of 934.mhz. I have a code plug eprom burned for it but I have not installed it yet. When I connect the station to power it goes into transmit right away. It has 2 PA's in the cabinet but only one is connected. Output was about 50 watts but I managed to locate the PA power level pot and have turned down the output to 15 watts until I can figure this beast out. I don't have much documentation on it. And what I have been able to find here and on other parts of the internet is mostly based on the MSF 5000. What I do have is the model # C85JLB1106ASP02, the purc control board # TLN2774A03, Tone Remote Control Board # TLN2775A05, there is a 3rd large board that I could not find any number on, and 2 PA'S model 1242 and 1212. (1242 is the one connected) If any one can help with any documentation or experience with this station it would be muchly appreciated. Randy VE3JPU
RE: [Repeater-Builder] KA4MKG Mike Pugh Obituary
Sorry to hear that , seems very young ( makes me wince) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mikep...@mikepugh.net Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:01:13 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] KA4MKG Mike Pugh Obituary PUGH Michael O, KA4MKG, 56, passed away May 27, 2009 at his home. His wife Jeanie Dalton survives him. Other survivors are his father, Robert Pugh, and two brothers, Maurice and Malcolm Pugh all from Florence, KY. Mike was a self-employed and part-time keyboard musician. Mike was an amateur radio operator for 30 years and an Elmer to many. His wife, Jeanie, amateur radio and being a keyboard musician was his love and passion. Mike will be greatly missed by many. A memorial Service will be held Thu, June 4, 2009 at Lansdowne Cumberland Presbyterian Church, 333 Redding Road at 3pm. _ Want to stay on top of your life online? Find out how with Windows Live! http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM 1250
If you got the SW, it should have come with the manual that tells you how to use it. If not, you should call 1(800)422-4210 and ask them for help or the manual for it. Joe M. wa...@earthlink.net wrote: That software is not designed for end users. It really is dealer software so it is not very intuitive. Try f1 for help. Good luck, Alan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry *From*: Ralph S. Turk *Date*: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:11:05 + (UTC) *To*: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM 1250 Good morning All I have several CDM 1250's that need programing. I received every thing with the CDM's. Service manuals Programing Software Programing cable Rib etc The only thing I did not receive was the instructions for using the software. Software fires up fine and I have been able to program 1 channel into a 64 channel radio. I have t ried to add other channels to no avail. The information shows up in the tree display and when I tell it to write to the radio, software indicates that it has loaded the channels but the CDM display only shows the first channel. What am I doing wrong? Ralph, W7HSG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.323 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2145 - Release Date: 05/31/09 05:53:00
[Repeater-Builder] I am looking for a completed manual for Micor UHF Station.
I am looking for a completed manual for Micor UHF Station. Would you have any with a price to shipped to reno 68p81025E50 service manual 68p81025E60 control and applications
[Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed
Hi guys, Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II, UHF machine?? It does not have to be like new, just *complete* and not too raggedy. HI Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance. de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR850 [4 Attachments]
Well all of you TKR guys out there will love the pictures I attached here. Just upgraded the repeater with a TPL 100wt RKR amp. Took a 4in 100wt out and bypassed the first stage of the amp and run the repeater at 8wt and you get 80 out of the amp. Here is the neat thing about this, I removed the screw on rack mount tabs and it mounts inside the blank side of the repeater like it was made to go there. Mounted 2 small fans to cool the heat sink since the stock fan would not fit inside the cabinet. The repeater is working great and thought all you out there may want to make the same install if you have a space issue. Funny thing here is I called TPL and they didn't even want to talk or converse about the idea. Mike K7PFJ Colorado Telecom, L.L.C. Mike Mullarkey 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed
Lee, All GE manuals are compiled from a very large assortment of individual documents; there is no such thing as a manual for any mobile or station radio. In order to compile the documents you need for your particular station, go to the following site: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-master-list.html and download each of the following documents: LBI-4787 Combination manual LBI-4986 IFAS Board LBI-30025 RX Cover Sheet LBI-30029 Oscillator-Multiplier Board LBI-30032 RF Assembly and Filter LBI-30113 RX Description and Maintenance LBI-30200 TX Exciter LBI-30211 TX Cover Sheet LBI-30212 TX Description and Maintenance LBI-30213 TX Power Amplifier LBI-30414 Station Installation LBI-30701 Control Description and Maintenance LBI-30704 10 VDC Regulator LBI-30705 Audio Boards LBI-30714 Repeater Control Boards LBI-30719 Control Shelf Cover Sheet LBI-30727 Tone Filter LBI-30775 Station Combinations DM LBI-30867 Station Power Supplies LBI-31056 Channel Guard As you can see, a complete manual for your station comprises 20 separate documents- which is why the new station was provided with a binder of loose-leaf pages. Your station is designed to operate in the 406-420 MHz band, as evidenced by the 77 in the combination number. If it were designed for a different band or power level, some of the documents in the above list would be different. Had you not included the combination number in your message, you would almost certainly get a pig in a poke. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:15 PM To: Repeater Builders Yahoo Group Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed Hi guys, Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II, UHF machine?? It does not have to be like new, just complete and not too raggedy. HI Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance. de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed
At 03:15 PM 05/31/09, you wrote: Hi guys, Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II, UHF machine?? It does not have to be like new, just complete and not too raggedy. HI Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance. de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. This is a frequent question, and the answer is the same each time - there is no one manual for any GE radio. You need to build a manual, starting with your combination number. First, go to www.repeater-builder.com then click on the GE link. Then scroll down to the GE Technical Information heading, then click on the LBI page. Then scroll down to the Product Code Index files, and click on PC67 Mastr II stations. You will, at that point, see that you have a continuous duty, low power wideband channel guard repeater in a DeskMate cabinet. But the reason you are looking at that document is on the second page. If you look carefully at the first table, you will see that the second, third and fifth digit in the combo number is critical and determines what the starting manual page is. Your combination number is DC55YAU77B, and the C, 5, and Y leads you to LBI4787 as the starter page, which is basically a cover page for a 3-ring binder. Go back to the LBI page and look up LBI4787, then print it. That page leads you to LBI30775. Look it up and see that it says full page under the number. That means that it has wiiddeee pull-out pages, and you can either print them yourself and tape them together, or take the file to a Kinkos/FedEx shop or a graphics shop on a thumb drive (sometimes called a pen drive or a flash drive) and have them print the wide pages on their roll feed printer. Some shops let you email the files to them. Going back to LBI4787 gives the receiver and transmitter number... The second table is for the transmitter, and the 5 and 77 give LBI30211 as the transmitter LBI, and third table uses the U and 77 to give LBI30025 as the receiver LBI. The last table uses the 5 to give LBI30867 as the power supply. So go look up LBI30211 and you will find it is a cover sheet (again noted as full page) for LBI30212, LBI 30200, and LBI30213. On the receiver look up LBI30025 and you will find it is a cover sheet for LBI30113, LBI30032, LBI30029, and LBI4986. You will also see a note that is has been replaced by LBI38505. After you look at both you may decide to print one, or both. So keep drilling down and printing LBIs as you go (or copying them to the thumb drive) and you will end up with the complete custom manual for your station. And if you find any errors, let me know, I'll fix them. I've put a lot of work into that section of the web site (and I don't even own a GE radio!) and I'm still finding errors. If you stumble across any LBIs we don't have, let me know as well. We can get them scanned into PDFs and then added to the page. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation
Hello: I realize this question must be old boring stuff nonetheless I will ask it. I'm planning on installing a GMRS repeater and I would like to use two antennas instead of a Duplexer/Antenna combination. What would be a good separation distance for a standard Split of 5 MHZ, two 5 dB antennas an 35 Watts of power?. Thanks in advance...
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation
If we assume that both antennas are identical and mounted inline and directly one above the other, and assuming a receiver sensitivity of 0.25 uV, a vertical spacing of 39 feet should provide sufficient isolation between RX and TX. This assumes solid-shield RX feedline, such as Heliax, with the RX antenna at the top. Obviously, more separation is better. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aisen Lopez Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation Hello: I realize this question must be old boring stuff nonetheless I will ask it. I'm planning on installing a GMRS repeater and I would like to use two antennas instead of a Duplexer/Antenna combination. What would be a good separation distance for a standard Split of 5 MHz, two 5 dB antennas and 35 Watts of power?. Thanks in advance..
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation
20ft. Vertical separation assuming vertically polarized omni antennas are used. Alan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Aisen Lopez aisendwi...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:16:14 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation Hello: I realize this question must be old boring stuff nonetheless I will ask it. I'm planning on installing a GMRS repeater and I would like to use two antennas instead of a Duplexer/Antenna combination. What would be a good separation distance for a standard Split of 5 MHZ, two 5 dB antennas an 35 Watts of power?. Thanks in advance...
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation
I am currently using the same setup. I have 40 watts output on my GMRS repeater and I have had them as close as 15 ft vertically separated and have had no problem. Now if you want to go as far as horizontal separation, you'll be stretching them apart quite far. I recommend going vertical though. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wa...@... wrote: 20ft. Vertical separation assuming vertically polarized omni antennas are used. Alan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Aisen Lopez aisendwi...@... Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:16:14 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation Hello: I realize this question must be old boring stuff nonetheless I will ask it. I'm planning on installing a GMRS repeater and I would like to use two antennas instead of a Duplexer/Antenna combination. What would be a good separation distance for a standard Split of 5 MHZ, two 5 dB antennas an 35 Watts of power?. Thanks in advance...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM 1250
Although I don't have my programming computer in front of me, you need to go to the last thing in the tree and add each personality for the channels you added high up in the tree. They will apear in the radio's display after you have added the personalities. If you think the 1250 is a bad animal to program, be glad your not adding trunk sites to a 1550 LS. They are a real pain. Hope that helps. thp MCH wrote: If you got the SW, it should have come with the manual that tells you how to use it. If not, you should call 1(800)422-4210 and ask them for help or the manual for it. Joe M. wa...@earthlink.net mailto:wa2ar%40earthlink.net wrote: That software is not designed for end users. It really is dealer software so it is not very intuitive. Try f1 for help. Good luck, Alan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Ralph S. Turk *Date*: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:11:05 + (UTC) *To*: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM 1250 Good morning All I have several CDM 1250's that need programing. I received every thing with the CDM's. Service manuals Programing Software Programing cable Rib etc The only thing I did not receive was the instructions for using the software. Software fires up fine and I have been able to program 1 channel into a 64 channel radio. I have t ried to add other channels to no avail. The information shows up in the tree display and when I tell it to write to the radio, software indicates that it has loaded the channels but the CDM display only shows the first channel. What am I doing wrong? Ralph, W7HSG -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.323 / Virus Database: 270.12.46/2145 - Release Date: 05/31/09 05:53:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna separation for UHF repeater operation
Rule of thumb is that you need at least 10 times the distance of vertical spacing if you use horizontal spacing. In other words, 15 feet of vertical spacing is equal to 150 feet of horizontal spacing. Joe agrimm0034 wrote: I am currently using the same setup. I have 40 watts output on my GMRS repeater and I have had them as close as 15 ft vertically separated and have had no problem. Now if you want to go as far as horizontal separation, you'll be stretching them apart quite far. I recommend going vertical though.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed
Thanks Guys, I certainly appreciate all of your Input. de Lee K4LJP 73 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 03:15 PM 05/31/09, you wrote: Hi guys, Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II, UHF machine?? It does not have to be like new, just *complete* and not too raggedy. HI Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance. de Lee K4LJP 73 -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. This is a frequent question, and the answer is the same each time - there is no one manual for any GE radio. You need to build a manual, starting with your combination number. First, go to www.repeater-builder.com then click on the GE link. Then scroll down to the GE Technical Information heading, then click on the LBI page. Then scroll down to the Product Code Index files, and click on PC67 Mastr II stations. You will, at that point, see that you have a continuous duty, low power wideband channel guard repeater in a DeskMate cabinet. But the reason you are looking at that document is on the second page. If you look carefully at the first table, you will see that the second, third and fifth digit in the combo number is critical and determines what the starting manual page is. Your combination number is DC55YAU77B, and the C, 5, and Y leads you to LBI4787 as the starter page, which is basically a cover page for a 3-ring binder. Go back to the LBI page and look up LBI4787, then print it. That page leads you to LBI30775. Look it up and see that it says full page under the number. That means that it has wiiddeee pull-out pages, and you can either print them yourself and tape them together, or take the file to a Kinkos/FedEx shop or a graphics shop on a thumb drive (sometimes called a pen drive or a flash drive) and have them print the wide pages on their roll feed printer. Some shops let you email the files to them. Going back to LBI4787 gives the receiver and transmitter number... The second table is for the transmitter, and the 5 and 77 give LBI30211 as the transmitter LBI, and third table uses the U and 77 to give LBI30025 as the receiver LBI. The last table uses the 5 to give LBI30867 as the power supply. So go look up LBI30211 and you will find it is a cover sheet (again noted as full page) for LBI30212, LBI 30200, and LBI30213. On the receiver look up LBI30025 and you will find it is a cover sheet for LBI30113, LBI30032, LBI30029, and LBI4986. You will also see a note that is has been replaced by LBI38505. After you look at both you may decide to print one, or both. So keep drilling down and printing LBIs as you go (or copying them to the thumb drive) and you will end up with the complete custom manual for your station. And if you find any errors, let me know, I'll fix them. I've put a lot of work into that section of the web site (and I don't even own a GE radio!) and I'm still finding errors. If you stumble across any LBIs we don't have, let me know as well. We can get them scanned into PDFs and then added to the page. Mike WA6ILQ -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
[Repeater-Builder] Repurpose a Mitrek UHF PA
A local ham radio club wants to add a 100 watt continuous duty power amplifier to their UHF repeater. They have available a 110 watt PA from a Mitrek mobile and some massive heat sinks. It doesn't appear that it would be very difficult to transplant the Mitrek PA onto one of the heat sinks and then mount that assembly to a 19-inch rack panel for installation in the repeater cabinet. Before I spend a lot of time on this effort, however, I'd like to know if anyone has done this before and, if so, is a how-to article available somewhere. Thanks for the bandwidth. 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ District Emergency Coordinator Hawaii ARES
