[Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-30 Thread Al Wolfe
Originally Decon was just a mixture of corn meal and portland cement, 
hardly dangerous poisons. The principle was that rats and mice cannot 
regurgitate what they have eaten. Then the cement would harden and the 
rodent would starve.

Somewhere along the line Warifin, a blood anticoagulant, was added to 
the mix to cause the rodent to bleed to death internally.

Al, K9SI


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Rat poison (Decon, etc) works, but you have to realize HOW it
works - it's a two-part mix. When the  rat eats it, the first part
is a drug that makes him thirsty. He leaves the building, finds
water, and drinks.
Thats when the second part goes into action - the poison dissolves
and kills him.   He's supposed to die outside at the water hole. At
least that's what the plan was.  But even good plans fail.  And if the
rat has already drank, the poison dissolves immediately after he eats
it and you have dead rats all over the place.

Or if the mouse or rat does get outside, a snake can eat him.  Then
you get secondary kills of beneficial life forms (the snakes keep the
mouse and rat population down).   Then the hawk catches and eats
the dying snake, and the hawk dies.

Overall, it's better to plug the holes first than to spread poison around.

Mike WA6ILQ

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-30 Thread Joe
An old trick was to leave a Brillo pad around, or better yet use it to 
stuff the holes and cracks.  The theory was that the mice would eat the 
fat based soap that was in the pad and the steel pieces would kill 
them.  This goes back many years, so I don't know if Brillo pads are 
still made the same way as they used to be.

Joe


Re: [Repeater-Builder] PA brick

2009-07-30 Thread g3...@talktalk.net

Norm
I guess we will have to keep tabs on each other and see who finds first !
Andy G3UEQ

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From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:28:55 -0500
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] PA brick


I have a MC-5844. I don't have any info on it either.

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Sent: Wed Jul 29 03:55:45 2009
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] PA brick

  

I have an NEC module type MC-5842, does anyone have any data on this part
as Google etc, have failed to provide any.It is dated 1983 !
Regards 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-30 Thread Vernon Densler
First throw 3 pythons in there.  Leave them for a few weeks.  I would say
leave them forever, but when it gets cold they will try to warm themselves
on the repeater and if they get stuck they will cause a big mess.  So since
you probably won't be able to find the pythons you have to thrown in a
couple of mongooses.  Or is it mongeese?Anyway to get rid of the
mongooses you have to put a hawk in there.  When the hawk is done eating the
mongooses, hopefully you can just open the door and he will fly out, because
getting a mountain lion in there might be a little tough.

Of course if that is too complicated you can go to Home Depot and get some
glue traps and box traps.  With the traps you don't have to worry about what
corner they decided to die in and stink up the site as you do with poison.  

Actually that is another option if you really want to use poison you can
just put the band Poison in there and have them start playing.  That is sure
to drive anything living out of the site.  I know the bass player so I can
get you a quote if you want.  I am sure they aren't charging too much to
play anymore.

Vern

KI4ONW

-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Jed Barton j...@... wrote:

 Hey guys,
 I am sure many of you have been through this before.
 The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now
they
 avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased.
 They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of
the
 icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean.
 I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in
 particular?
 All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't
pulled
 the cover off yet.
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor manuals in pdf ?

2009-07-30 Thread Grady
Barry, Try this page...

http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html


Grady
W4GLE



 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry ate...@... wrote:

 
 I have both vhf and uhf Micor repeaters just inherited , 
 Both appear to be 60 watt units and are HUGE (  about 50kg)so any ideas where 
 I get manuals for them in pdf , a quick check and I might dispose of the uhf 
 unit ( I am in Brisbane AU)
  Thanks guys
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set

2009-07-30 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Any handheld or mobile radio will work. A scanner would even be appropriate.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


kerinvale wrote:
 
 
 Ill try that .which is ht you refer to  
  
 Thank You,
 Ian Wells,
 Kerinvale Comaudio,
 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/
  
 /---Original Message---/
  
 /*From:*/ Scott Zimmerman mailto:n3...@repeater-builder.com
 /*Date:*/ 30/07/2009 11:08:31
 /*To:*/ Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 /*Subject:*/ Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set
  
  
 
 Ian,
 
 I did the same thing. (easy to do isn't it!!)
 
 I ran the internal tests before and after the repairs and there was a
 significant difference. That's what I did to be sure it was working OK.
 I must admit, it's probably not as good as sending it somewhere for
 calibration, but on a ham budget, it works OK enough.
 
 You could always hook your HT to the I/O port and check sensitivity then
 connect it to the duplex port and see if it's about the same. That's a
 REAL easy benchmark.
 
 Scott
 
 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Road
 Boswell, PA 15531
 
 kerinvale wrote:
  
  
   I accidently hooked up my test leads to my 8921a wrong and introduced 
 high
   Watts into the duplex out socket .Removed the a23 module and found 
 the cr203
   And cr501 burnt out in the duplex switch .I have replaced them and 
 the unit
   Seems to be working again .Can anyone suggest simple ways to check the
   Duplex and ant in section to make sure there isn't any more parts 
 damaged .
  
   Thank You,
   Ian Wells,
   Kerinvale Comaudio,
   361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
   Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
   www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ 
 http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set

2009-07-30 Thread kerinvale
 I followed the unit test procedure and it failed  on filter output detector
output variable att,auto range att,duplex detector(no signal)
 
 
Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Scott Zimmerman
Date: 31/07/2009 01:06:39
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set
 
  Any handheld or mobile radio will work. A scanner would even be
appropriate.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

kerinvale wrote:
 
 
 Ill try that .which is ht you refer to 
 
 Thank You,
 Ian Wells,
 Kerinvale Comaudio,
 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/
 
 /---Original Message---/
 
 /*From:*/ Scott Zimmerman mailto:n3...@repeater-builder.com
 /*Date:*/ 30/07/2009 11:08:31
 /*To:*/ Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 /*Subject:*/ Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set
 
 
 
 Ian,
 
 I did the same thing. (easy to do isn't it!!)
 
 I ran the internal tests before and after the repairs and there was a
 significant difference. That's what I did to be sure it was working OK.
 I must admit, it's probably not as good as sending it somewhere for
 calibration, but on a ham budget, it works OK enough.
 
 You could always hook your HT to the I/O port and check sensitivity then
 connect it to the duplex port and see if it's about the same. That's a
 REAL easy benchmark.
 
 Scott
 
 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Road
 Boswell, PA 15531
 
 kerinvale wrote:
 
 
  I accidently hooked up my test leads to my 8921a wrong and introduced 
 high
  Watts into the duplex out socket .Removed the a23 module and found 
 the cr203
  And cr501 burnt out in the duplex switch .I have replaced them and 
 the unit
  Seems to be working again .Can anyone suggest simple ways to check the
  Duplex and ant in section to make sure there isn't any more parts 
 damaged .
 
  Thank You,
  Ian Wells,
  Kerinvale Comaudio,
  361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
  Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
  www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ 
 http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-30 Thread ae6zm
Just a comment on the SS scrubbing pads - I use them for soldering iron 
cleaners (stuff it in a small can) and for paint/varnish removal, rust removal, 
etc. I buy mine at the dollar store, 3 or 4 on a card for, you guessed it, a 
dollar.

Wes
AE6ZM  VE7ELE
ARRL Technical Specialist
AEC Placer County ARES
Lincoln, CA



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Robinson
Afternoon Wes, please send my regards to chuck and Kacie and crew, I havent
been to an ARES in placer in a few years now. I hope the team is doing well,
and I may be in to visit late this year.

 On topic now, the go to the local machine shop and ask them for the floor
sweepings after a good day of work. they usually will have bunches of razor
sharp steal wool that has been cut from the products they build, such as
what come off the lathe.

 I have also used mangled screen vent for the attic or basement and shoved
it inot an opening. it dont restrict air flow but isnt going to be pushed or
eatin out of the way either.

 Chris
 KF6NFW

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:19 PM, ae6zm wesbfl...@surewest.net wrote:



 Just a comment on the SS scrubbing pads - I use them for soldering iron
 cleaners (stuff it in a small can) and for paint/varnish removal, rust
 removal, etc. I buy mine at the dollar store, 3 or 4 on a card for, you
 guessed it, a dollar.

 Wes
 AE6ZM  VE7ELE
 ARRL Technical Specialist
 AEC Placer County ARES
 Lincoln, CA

  



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor manuals in pdf ?

2009-07-30 Thread Barry

Great and thanks..
 lookes like the uhf is working so now to find a home for it .. completely 
bullitproof it seems 


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 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor manuals in pdf ?






















 Barry, Try this page...



 http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html



 Grady

 W4GLE



 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry wrote:





 I have both vhf and uhf Micor repeaters just inherited ,

 Both appear to be 60 watt units and are HUGE ( about 50kg)so any ideas where 
 I get manuals for them in pdf , a quick check and I might dispose of the uhf 
 unit ( I am in Brisbane AU)

 Thanks guys

 





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decoder project MDC

2009-07-30 Thread radio5000
Mark took ?Matthew's librarys and wrote a windows app with them.

http://antistatic.org/winmdcd/

I use it, works great.
?
Only downside, no aliases (no, not Jennifer Gardner).

Will


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From: Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decoder project MDC


 



agrimm0034 wrote:
 Hi. I'm looking to build a MDC1200 decoder for my repeater to monitor the 
 activity. Anyone else tried to construct one or can help me out? Thanks

 
You may be interested to know about a C library I wrote. See 
http://www.matthew.at/mdc/

Requires the ability to capture audio samples and feed them to the 
library. It is also not that difficult to port this to run on a PIC 
microcontroller using a single bit for audio input.

Matthew Kaufman







[Repeater-Builder] Talking clock has failed on our RC-85 V5.2 FW Fixed!

2009-07-30 Thread wa6mha_glen
Thanks to all of you for your replies.
 It seems it was the Y2K issue. After reading all the replies here, and the 
info in the links given, the fix was tried and it worked! This was done many 
years ago by a past member and it was forgotten about until this month! I guess 
it may have been July, 1999 when it was done last? No dates were recorded when 
it was done.
To make the operation easier, the required numbers and symbols were typed into 
an audio editing program that has a DTMF tone generation option. This was used 
to program the changes over the air and phone. It was fast and easy. We learned 
2 new things from all this.
It's been suggested that we have a spare v 5.2 eprom on hand for the future. A 
newer controller is still being considered with this being a working spare. We 
still offer an auto-patch so some research has to be done first.  
I'm told that there is a daughter board that allows a newer eprom to be used. I 
would like more info on wiring/building this board and the replacement eprom to 
use. Does one have to read the current eprom, or is that data posted somewhere? 
I have access to a high end programmer as well as someone to use it if I run 
into trouble. I would rather not disturb a working eprom by reading it.
I've joined the ACC group and will post future rc-85 issues there first.

Thank you all for your help.
Glen
wa6mha