[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tuning duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread George C
And those cables need to have very good shielding. I've found that with poorly 
shielded cables there can be enough leakage cable to cable to make measurements 
very innacurate. (I know, stop buying coax at Radio Shack...er...The Shack, etc)

GeorgeC
W2DB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:

 If you have a decent radio with some type of receive signal 
 strength indicator, some coax cables a separate transmitter 
 radio (an HT would work) and some attenuator pads from Ebay... 
 you could do it. 
 
 s. 
 
 
  Azam 9w2www@ wrote:
 
  found this simple and cheap rf measurement kit at
  http://www.foxdelta.com/products/pm3.htm
  can it be use to tune a duplexer?
  
  rgds
  azam
  
  
   
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tuning duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread bil . isom
RG214 is good for this and you can still find short pieces on e-bay.  It is 
double shielded silver plated braid. Bill N4XIR.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: George C geo...@dyb.com
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:33:09 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tuning duplexer with this equipment?

And those cables need to have very good shielding. I've found that with poorly 
shielded cables there can be enough leakage cable to cable to make measurements 
very innacurate. (I know, stop buying coax at Radio Shack...er...The Shack, etc)

GeorgeC
W2DB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote:

 If you have a decent radio with some type of receive signal 
 strength indicator, some coax cables a separate transmitter 
 radio (an HT would work) and some attenuator pads from Ebay... 
 you could do it. 
 
 s. 
 
 
  Azam 9w2www@ wrote:
 
  found this simple and cheap rf measurement kit at
  http://www.foxdelta.com/products/pm3.htm
  can it be use to tune a duplexer?
  
  rgds
  azam
  
  
   
  
 






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tune duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread skipp025

 Ever think of writing a book.so much to offer 
 and helped me and many others, many times.

They'd never let me print a book using the pictures I'd 
like to put inside it. Radios and vacuum tube electronics 
in reclined seductive positions. 

 Thank you and Seasons Greetings to you and yours Sir... 
 you are what Amateur Radio is about...(and the group).
 Doug - GM7SVK

Sometimes karma comes full circle... The information I've
obtained from the Repeater Builder Web Site and this Group 
has saved more time and helped me make more money and meet 
really great people than one/I could ever have imagined. 

Even with the extra tight economic conditions I still wrote 
a donation check to Keven for the RB Web Site and I'm always 
happy offer verbal abuse to anyone who asks for it. 

Merry Kwanzaa, Hannuka, Holidays, Christmas, Ramadan, 
Confucianism, Buddhism or whatever your choice of 
celebration. 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/var_rel.htm 

cheers, 
s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tune duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread NORM KNAPP
You didn't mention winter solstice...
I am offended!  :-)

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu Dec 24 11:07:24 2009
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tune duplexer with this equipment?

  


 Ever think of writing a book.so much to offer 
 and helped me and many others, many times.

They'd never let me print a book using the pictures I'd 
like to put inside it. Radios and vacuum tube electronics 
in reclined seductive positions. 

 Thank you and Seasons Greetings to you and yours Sir... 
 you are what Amateur Radio is about...(and the group).
 Doug - GM7SVK

Sometimes karma comes full circle... The information I've
obtained from the Repeater Builder Web Site and this Group 
has saved more time and helped me make more money and meet 
really great people than one/I could ever have imagined. 

Even with the extra tight economic conditions I still wrote 
a donation check to Keven for the RB Web Site and I'm always 
happy offer verbal abuse to anyone who asks for it. 

Merry Kwanzaa, Hannuka, Holidays, Christmas, Ramadan, 
Confucianism, Buddhism or whatever your choice of 
celebration. 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/var_rel.htm 
http://www.religioustolerance.org/var_rel.htm  

cheers, 
s. 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tuning duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread no6b
At 12/24/2009 07:42, you wrote:


RG214 is good for this and you can still find short pieces on e-bay. It is 
double shielded silver plated braid. Bill N4XIR.

Yes, but if the receiver/transmitter used isn't well shielded, the 
double-shielded coax does no good.  This is a big problem with using HTs 
for tuning duplexers, as most are poorly shielded.

Bob NO6B



Fans (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Henry Amps)

2009-12-24 Thread skipp025

A constant spinning fan makes unnecessary noise,
 
 Compared to the building air conditioning/vent fans, 
 I can't even hear my fans.

I've visited many locations without AC or vent fans 
running in winter time and even summer time. 

  consumes energy

 A little, perhaps as much as one or two tube filaments.

Most tube filaments require quite a bit more energy 
compared to a relatively small DC 4 or 5 inch Square Fan. 

  and wears out much faster.

 Perhaps.  I find it easier to just let them run  replace 
 them when they start to show wear than design increased 
 complexity  failure points (thermostat/connectors/wires) 
 into the system.

The complexity of the changing the Kenwood TRK-750 or 
TKR-850 Repeater Fan to operate when the power amplifiers 
heat sink reaches reaches x-value temperature is a mouse 
click in software. 

life will go on... 

s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

2009-12-24 Thread skipp025

 Bite Blocks for the Mouse and all will be quiet...

I also find the bite blocks to be the best solution.
 
 Even better: don't leave any holes for the critters to 
 get into your cabinet.  I've always used bulkhead N 
 feed-throughs for all my cabinet RF I/O,  a cabinet-mounted 
 power cord inlet.  Never seen as much as a bite mark 
 or rodent dropping inside the cabinet.

Sometimes one is not lucky enough to park a cabinet at 
a commercial radio site... you might get a limited amount 
of rack space where things are more open. 

And at American Tower Sites... they often supply the 
rodent problem as part of their poor maintenance and 
customer service policy. 

s. 




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can we tune duplexer with this equipment?

2009-12-24 Thread skipp025



Reads like you're hanging around some of my more earthy 
(aka wacky) Northern California/Oregon Friends. Stop by 
the Glitter Booth next time you're at the Burning Man 
Festival and we'll fix you up. 

s. 

ps: and don't drink the punch  

 NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote:
 You didn't mention winter solstice...
 I am offended!  :-)

 Merry Kwanzaa, Hannuka, Holidays, Christmas, Ramadan, 
 Confucianism, Buddhism or whatever your choice of 
 celebration. 




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

2009-12-24 Thread cruising7388
This is no longer a freebie. They are surcharging for this feature.
 
 
In a message dated 12/24/2009 9:27:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
skipp...@yahoo.com writes:

And at  American Tower Sites... they often supply the 
rodent problem as part of  their poor maintenance and 
customer service policy.  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

2009-12-24 Thread Joe
I used to have about 50 cellular sites that I maintained.  One of the 
biggest rodent control solutions was to throw out all the trash cans at 
all the sites.   That ended the problem of half eaten Big Macs and all 
other foodstuffs from being left at the site.   That made a big dent in 
the rodent problem.  With no place to throw out the garbage people 
usually took the trash with them.

73, Joe, K1ike


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

2009-12-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Good advice, Joe.  Besides food, rodents also seek water.  An air
conditioning unit that drips condensate water onto the ground will also
attract rodents.  One solution to that problem is to capture the condensate
before it hits the ground, and channel it 100 feet or so away from the
building in pipe.  Cover the open end with a stainless-steel scouring pad or
other means to keep bugs and other pests from crawling back up the pipe.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

  

I used to have about 50 cellular sites that I maintained. One of the 
biggest rodent control solutions was to throw out all the trash cans at 
all the sites. That ended the problem of half eaten Big Macs and all 
other foodstuffs from being left at the site. That made a big dent in 
the rodent problem. With no place to throw out the garbage people 
usually took the trash with them.

73, Joe, K1ike






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101

2009-12-24 Thread Paul Plack
...not to mention reducing the odds of having a bear problem!

As for the trash cans, anticipating human behavior can be interesting. Years 
ago, one of the big ham repeater sites in the southeast US actually had a few 
commercial tenants, which is generally a nice arrangement financially. The site 
had an ATV repeater equipped with multiple cameras at the site which could be 
switched to the repeater output.

One night, during an ATV net with several dozen people watching the site-cams, 
the one inside caught a tech for one of the commercial tenants taking a leak 
out the open door of the shack. I'm not sure this guy would have taken his 
trash with him.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mouse debate 101



  I used to have about 50 cellular sites that I maintained. One of the 
  biggest rodent control solutions was to throw out all the trash cans at 
  all the sites. That ended the problem of half eaten Big Macs and all 
  other foodstuffs from being left at the site. That made a big dent in 
  the rodent problem. With no place to throw out the garbage people 
  usually took the trash with them.

  73, Joe, K1ike


  

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Desktrac UHF Repeater

2009-12-24 Thread N2OBS
Hi Group  Merry Christmas,

I would like to interface my ULI (Echolink) to my uhf repeater.  Can anyone 
assist preforming this delicate surgery?  73 and Happy Holidays.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Desktrac UHF Repeater

2009-12-24 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:19 PM 12/24/09, N2OBS wucherer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Group  Merry Christmas,

I would like to interface my ULI (Echolink) to my uhf repeater.  Can 
anyone assist preforming this delicate surgery?  73 and Happy Holidays.

Start with the Desktrac familiarization article at repeater-builder.

Click on Motorola, then Maxtrac, then read that page (since the
Desktrac repeater has two Maxtracs inside it's worth being familiar
with the basic radio).
At the bottom is the link to the Desktrac article, which contains
basic interfacing info and Desktrac programming.

Mike WA6ILQ