[Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Ham radio has received a LOT of publicity as a result of our contributions to Katrina relief. Hams are in the news regularly for a variety of things we do. Of course, we could always use more. The ARRL has a Field Organization operation dedicated to ham radio PR. You can learn about it at: http://www.arrl.org/pio/ 73, Gary KN4AQ PIO, North Carolina (among other things) At 02:19 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: I agree...and in this day of digital cameras, computers and the Internet, I think we should start keeping records of our contributions to the public good welfare. With all this technology, there's really no excuse for keeping us anonymous. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 February, 2006 07:17 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams Thanks for posting this, Dick. What those individuals did should not be forgotten. But if the efforts of Hams are worthy of praise, then are they not worthy of publicity? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of publicity, then are they not worthy of support? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of support, who then will take advantage of that opportunity? Is that not a question yet to be answered? Often, Hams are viewed by government and private organizations as liabilities with nothing to add. While this may be superficially arguable, at the end of the day it is not likely factual. Some assets and services are just difficult to put a price on. Photo opportunities may be all we have to offer in exchange for what we need to occasionally provide an emergency communications system. Furthermore, I do not believe that proof of what we offer is enough for some people so maybe we should not take that course. What course do we take? I really don't know what is best, but think of this. When banks compete, you win. Let the government and private organizations compete for the photo opportunities that supporting the Amateur Service might bring. Let us be ready to supply equipment, expertise and operators. Let us not present ourselves as needy, but demonstrate our hobby as a valuable asset in our communities. And may we always be a humble, yet proud group of people. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] RE: Praise and publicity, PSA's and the ARRL
At 03:39 PM 2/26/2006, Mark N9WYS wrote: Gary, ... the real story of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to the masses - at least in my part of the country. Just my 2¢ worth... My appreciation to the list for tolerating this off-topic thread. Perhaps one or two list members will be prompted to learn about the PR efforts that already exist and do something themselves to help. It takes time to do more than peck off a post to a mailing list, but it's worth it. Here's some background and answers to the questions that flew by: Ham radio gets its biggest PR push from Field Day. Katrina may have been even bigger for us. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE saw it, remembered it, and appreciated it. THAT kind of recognition is reserved for a story as big as the hurricane itself, not our sidebar participation. Most ham PR is local. We see very little coverage on the ABC/CBS/NBC nightly news, or in the Time/Newsweek magazines. CNN and Fox have carried some ham stories. Delta's In-Flight magazine just had a great article on hams and Katrina. PSAs are free, but most stations run them at 2 AM, if they run them at all. The ARRL has PSA's available for you to try to place in your local media. It's worth a shot, even at 2 AM. www.arrl.org/pio. The ARRL has a new campaign in the works that's still being developed, so I can't say much about it yet. When it's released, it will take your help to get it spread around in your area. I'm tempted to lecture here because it's fun and expected: Does your area have a PIO? Do you know who he/she is? What they do? Do you help provide local PR material based on your activity? Do you think the ARRL should spend money like: a) the beer companies b) the car companies c) the cell phone companies (can you hear me now?) d) the drug companies to advertise ham radio? And now, hopefully, back to building repeaters 73, Gary KN4AQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tower Installation
Hi, Doug and all, I think you are confusing a couple of FCC rules, and may be misinterpreting your HOA's letter (at least as much as you quoted). There are NO FCC rules or Congressional legislation requiring HOA's to permit ham radio towers and antennas if the CCR's restrict them. There are two FCC rules in play here, and neither does what you want: One is PRB-1, which requires governments (cities, counties, states) to accommodate ham antennas to some extent. This does NOT apply to HOA's and CCR's, which are private contracts between you and the seller/HOA. The other is the FCC OTARD rule that preempts HOA restrictions on certain small broadcast TV and data receiving antennas and satellite dishes. This does NOT apply to amateur radio antennas. Details here: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html The ARRL has lobbied the FCC to extend PRB-1 coverage to HOA's and CCR's, and the FCC has specifically refused to do that, saying that if Congress intends that, they'll need to legislate it and the FCC will respond. The ARRL has gotten a bill before Congress to do that thanks to some friendly Congressmen. Chances of passage are (or zero, according to some). If your HOA really is confused about the matter, perhaps that's good for you. But YOU shouldn't be confused. Before you spend a lot on a tower, you might have a lawyer figure out how to lock in their permission, lest they discover their error one day and give you grief. If they aren't confused, and you are trying to twist the OTARD rule to cover a ham antenna, you better have a very good lawyer fighting for you. And just to be complete, the FCC doesn't pass laws or legislation. The FCC makes rules, based on legislation passed by Congress. 73, Gary KN4AQ At 02:40 AM 12/27/2005, Doug Fitts W7FDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My last posting for 2005 with a question: My home owners association with their CCR's and other regs [here in my community of Vail, Arizona] has seen the light regarding new FCC legislation on antenna and tower installation parameters and height restrictions. They [the association] recently sent me a monthly Newsletter [December issue] which specifically acknowledges word for word, that the Federal Communications Commission [FCC] passed legislation that prohibits associations from restricting individual members from receiving adequate transmission signals. Doug Fitts W7FDF Vail, Arizona U.S.A. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digital Signals
KA9QJG wrote: I had a Ham Friend ask Me if My Repeater would Pass the Alnico DJ-596 EJ-43 DIGITAL Signal... Thanks Don KA9QJG At 11:50 AM 12/12/2005, Jim Barbour WD8CHL wrote: You'll need to have frequency response through the repeater down to near DC, as digital is basically an FSK signal And I write: In the unlikely event that a repeater designed for FM voice does pass the digital data well enough to permit a conversation, it will make all the regular analog FM voice users of the repeater very unhappy. It will sound like their squelch is wide open, but advancing the squelch control will not help. As long as the digital signal is transmitting, they will hear a loud rush in their speakers. It's going to take some ingenuity to accommodate the inevitable, long transition between analog and digital communication on the VHF/UHF bands. 73, Gary KN4AQ __ Gary Pearce KN4AQeditor, SERA Repeater Journal Cary, NC www.sera.org 919-380-9944 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: KN4AQ Radio. Yahoo: KN4AQ (send e-mail to be put on my buddy list) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] RE: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
At 06:12 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Could someone send me the URL to the original article off line. I have a friend in the NC Highway Patrol who is interested and is questioning whether this really happened. Please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Fred Hi, Fred (and all) It happened. I was in court yesterday to report on the story, and the hearing was continued until Sept. 14. The updated story is on this web page: http://www.jars.net/wb4vqp.htm Perhaps you could ask your friend in the NCHP to contact me for an on- or off-the-record comment? 73, Gary KN4AQ editor, SERA Repeater Journal Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Short spacing on VHF repeaters.
At 10:32 PM 1/23/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody had to ask another repeater owner/trustee for letter of approval for short distance for re-coordination.. I am looking to move one of my vhf repeaters a few miles east/south east and another user is on the same freq.(north of me), and I will fall with-in the 100mile radius. Moving this direction i would have thought that it would be further away, but it is close, im in his 100mile radius by like 2-4 miles and in order to re-coordinate, if i go thru with the move, I need a letter of approval from the other repeater owner/trustee. How would I approach the other owner in regards to this.. thanks Brent Hi, Brent I needed to make that request for a club repeater in Raleigh, NC, for a move something like you're contemplating. I wrote to the owner of the co-channel machine and asked nicely. I pointed out the small distance change, and how we had been good co-channel neighbors for a long time with few problems. And I promised to continue the good-neighbor policy. He ignored me. But, I also copied my state frequency coordinator on the correspondence. The coordinator (a SERA coordinator) used SERA's ComStudy software to predict the coverage of the two repeaters, and determined that they should live together with little problem (as experience has shown). He was able to get the neighbor to agree to the short-spacing. Since then the neighbor and I have met face-to-face at some club meetings and the rapport has gotten much better. The repeaters live together fine. Keep your coordinator in the loop. You're in SERA territory, and he has the ComStudy software, too. If your repeaters really can co-exist, he might intercede on your behalf. 73, Gary KN4AQ __ Gary Pearce KN4AQeditor, SERA Repeater Journal Cary, NC www.sera.org 919-380-9944 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: KN4AQ Radio. Yahoo: KN4AQ (send e-mail to be put on my buddy list) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
