RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micro computer concepts rc100 and echolink
I did it to an RC1000 but I did it a little different than most. My audio going from echolink and the receiver go into an audio mixer before going to the transmitter. Vern KI4ONW. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sloan Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:25 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micro computer concepts rc100 and echolink Hello group, Has anyone on the list gone down the path of interfacing echolink into a rc100 repeater controller? It doesn't look too difficult but if I don't have to reinvent the wheel Thanks, Aaron ka0zoz
[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers
Is it OK to get some kind of storage container or something like that and put my duplexer outside? What would be the risks of doing so? I am in Florida so lots of rain and heat but no freezing months or anything like that? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers
The repeater is at my house so it's fairly safe as far as theft goes. It's a DB 2m 6 can duplexer in a metal case. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Piche Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I would think that at the least you would want to build a small building, even something close to a large dog house, 3'D X 4'W x 4'H. Leaves at least a little room to breath and work around, heat may be a factor depending on the cans you use and may send them a bit out of tune from the hot/humid summer months to the cooler less humid winter ones. Maybe a hinged lid for ease of access and a padlock. Worked a several sites I have seen but just a small box, that may be too easy to blow around, steal, no room to work, but depends on where you are putting it as it is all relative. --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:14 AM Is it OK to get some kind of storage container or something like that and put my duplexer outside? What would be the risks of doing so? I am in Florida so lots of rain and heat but no freezing months or anything like that? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers
That is what I was thinking of too. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I often thought about using a Rubbermaid product. Here is a deck box: Rubbermaid item #3743 or a vertical storage cabinet: Rubbermaid item #3749 I'm not saying these would be 100% waterproof, but I think they would work well enough. I think the last price I saw on the storage cabinet at wally-world was around $100 or so. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mung Bungholio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers The repeater is at my house so it's fairly safe as far as theft goes. It's a DB 2m 6 can duplexer in a metal case. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Piche Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I would think that at the least you would want to build a small building, even something close to a large dog house, 3'D X 4'W x 4'H. Leaves at least a little room to breath and work around, heat may be a factor depending on the cans you use and may send them a bit out of tune from the hot/humid summer months to the cooler less humid winter ones. Maybe a hinged lid for ease of access and a padlock. Worked a several sites I have seen but just a small box, that may be too easy to blow around, steal, no room to work, but depends on where you are putting it as it is all relative. --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:14 AM Is it OK to get some kind of storage container or something like that and put my duplexer outside? What would be the risks of doing so? I am in Florida so lots of rain and heat but no freezing months or anything like that? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1749 - Release Date: 10/27/2008 7:57 AM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers
That deck box would work. If I laid it down. I actually have a nice storage cabinet in my shed that if I put the stuff in it onto shelves I could have room for the duplexer and some other storage above it. Shelves are probably cheaper than the cabinet. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I often thought about using a Rubbermaid product. Here is a deck box: Rubbermaid item #3743 or a vertical storage cabinet: Rubbermaid item #3749 I'm not saying these would be 100% waterproof, but I think they would work well enough. I think the last price I saw on the storage cabinet at wally-world was around $100 or so. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mung Bungholio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers The repeater is at my house so it's fairly safe as far as theft goes. It's a DB 2m 6 can duplexer in a metal case. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Piche Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I would think that at the least you would want to build a small building, even something close to a large dog house, 3'D X 4'W x 4'H. Leaves at least a little room to breath and work around, heat may be a factor depending on the cans you use and may send them a bit out of tune from the hot/humid summer months to the cooler less humid winter ones. Maybe a hinged lid for ease of access and a padlock. Worked a several sites I have seen but just a small box, that may be too easy to blow around, steal, no room to work, but depends on where you are putting it as it is all relative. --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mung Bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:14 AM Is it OK to get some kind of storage container or something like that and put my duplexer outside? What would be the risks of doing so? I am in Florida so lots of rain and heat but no freezing months or anything like that? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1749 - Release Date: 10/27/2008 7:57 AM
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Back up......
I have setup a forum for repeater builders. This is not meant as a replacement of this group but as an enhancement and a way to have discussion threads without having to have everyone on the list get a 1000 emails about stuff they don't care about. If anyone wants any new forum groups started let me know. http://sun2.highwayusa.com/repeaterforum/phpBB3/ Thanks, Vern KI4ONW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards
I have one so we will see what they do when I bring it back in. It hasn't burst into flames yet. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Thompson Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 2, 2008 Release #08-319 Firm's Recall Hotline: (800) 843-7422 CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772 CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908 RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. Name of Product: 13.8V DC Power Supplies Units: About 160,000 Importer: RadioShack Corp., of Fort Worth, Texas Hazard: The recalled power supplies are wired incorrectly, posing electrocution and fire hazards. Incidents/Injuries: None reported. Description: The recall involves RadioShack 13.8V DC Power Supplies, catalog numbers 22-507 and 22-508 with date codes from 08A04 through 01A08. Date code format is MMAYY where MM is the month and YY is the year. The catalog number and date code are located on the back of the power supply. Power Supplies with a green dot on the product and the product's packaging have already been repaired and are not included in the recall. Sold at: RadioShack stores nationwide from October 2004 through January 2008 for between $50 and $85. Manufactured in: China Remedy: Consumers should unplug the recalled power supply immediately and take it to any RadioShack store for a free repair. Registered owners of the recalled power supplies will be mailed a notice. Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact RadioShack at 800-843-7422 anytime, or visit the firm's website at: http://www.radioshack.com/recall To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the recalled products, please go to: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta
Thanks. Yes it is a high split. N3DD3N110TB. The freqs on the label inside are all in the 47 mhz range. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ka9gpx Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:03 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta So now what. I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and use it for something. How does one go about programming one of these puppies? I have seen a lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say the easy way to get it programmed. Hello Vern, If you have the 2212 chip (as opposed to the xtal vers...) there are several ways to attack the programming issues... None of which is too EASY but not too difficult either...Simplest is to find a GE dealer in you area that might have the capabilities to do thatnext would be to purchase any of the programmers made for doing the XR2212 Chip. This chip was also used in the GE Phoenix Series of radios so any programmer for that line should also work...) There are several available, such as the one from RF GUYS,...There's also one available from the NHRC group,. and if you don't mind building your own, you might try the KG4LNE software and programmer, or the KA9FUR software and programmer. ( just Google those sites)..sorry don't have the links handy. There are also what's known as Downloading Type Control heads available which will download freq tone info to the radio every time it's turned on but they too require special (tough to find ) soft/hard-ware... Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be modded as well? I've put 2 deltas on 6mtrsI may have gotten lucky, but both Moved just fine...No special mods required...They will however need to have the VCO's reset, as well as the Recv. Front-end cavities re-aligned. Also, I cut the power back to 45W for my piece of mind... One Caveat...Are you sure you have a high-end split The Deltas came in 3 ranges for the Low band model29-36, 36-42, 42-50, One way to tell is by the Combination number on the radio (if it's still attached)...If you have a high range version, the combo number should look something like...N3DD3N060TB...or N3DD3N110TB... The Key is the 3rd letter...in this case the D(42-50Mhz)...a low end vers.(29-36Mhz)would have a B in place of the D...a mid range (36-42Mhz) would have a C in the 3rd positionPower is indicated by the 060-60Watt 110-110Watt Try the KA9FUR web site for some interfacing ideas (without control head...also Buck's Packetradio.com web site...He has some information there about using the Deltas for Packet,..but this will Guide you towards a Non-Control Head set-up.. Good Luck,... Hope this helps...Hope I didn't use up this month's Text-Limit with this answer... 73- Carl KA9GPX
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta
Cool. Thanks! This is very helpful . Mine is for sure a synthesized Delta. I have to order my programmer as well. They do have some just not listed on Ebay right now. Vern From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Delta I operate all my Rangr's without a control head, and also have a crystal controlled Delta operating packet on a montaintop without a control head. You just have to scope out the pins and apply voltage to the ign +12 and the main +12 to fire them up. Be careful putting a speaker on the Delta, as it uses a floating speaker connection. Do not hook either side of the speaker to ground. I am attaching my mod to run the Delta without a control head. I jumper to a 25 pin D connector to get compatable with common connectors. The two large pins are the high current + and - for the final amp. The Rangr connector is the same as a synthesized Delta, while the older crystal controlled Deltas use the Delta configuration I show here. I am also including the diagram of the connector I plagerized from a packet mod for the Rangr. It is a good description of the layout of the interface connector. 73 - Jim W5ZIT mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. I will check to see if it has the chip. They don't have any programmers listed right now. I will ask them if they have any not listed. How about testing this thing out without a control head? I have a service monitor so I just need to know how to power it up and listen to the speaker and make it tx so that I can see what it is putting out? Thanks, Vern --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the unit you are looking at is a programmable type, you can program with the RFGuys programmer by removing the chip and plugging it into their programmer board which plugs into the parallel port of your computer. You have to use DOS to generate the personality (a 256 byte binary file) to move to the chip. They supply a program to generate the personality. I use one of these programmers to generate personalities for GE Rangr and GE Phoenix radios. I don't have any programmable Deltas. Some folks have indicated problems getting their computer to work with this programmer, but I use an IBM 390 laptop and it works fine. Be aware that there were lots of crystal controlled Deltas made also. You will have to order crystals for those types. To verify that your radio is programmable you will find an XR2212 EEPROM near the microprocessor in a socket. This is the chip you remove and plug into the RFGuys programmer. RFGuys markets their unit on Ebay. 73 - Jim W5ZIT mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I was over at the junk store looking for UHF commercial radios for the GMRS project and didn't find anything for that but did find the drawer unit for a low band GE Delta for $5.00. So now what. I would love to be able to slide this thing into 6m and use it for something. How does one go about programming one of these puppies? I have seen a lot of different things out on the net but nothing that seems to say the easy way to get it programmed. Will it slide into 6m by just programming it or does it need to be modded as well? I know another project but that is how these things happen. Go looking for one thing and find something else to play with. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios
On GMRS they have another function. You can give the family a blister pack radio and they can use it on the repeater. It's not perfect but it is a way to get people to learn more about radio. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I think simplex repeaters have two obvious applications: 1. When no pairs are available they are an option on simplex frequencies 2. In the event a disaster takes out a repeater, they represent a way to retain function. You can put up a simplex repeater on the output frequency of the repeater, with an id that explains what is going on, and invites traffic. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios
Are you sure about that? They were actually selling them at one point. I think Radio Shack had one. I would like to see where it says you can't do it. I will read again but I didn't see it written anywhere. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS. ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance. They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering . Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005% tolerance.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios
First of all I know we are not supposed to talk about part 97 rules on here but these are part 95 so that should be OK right J Anyway. I wonder if you are talking about store and forward being forbidden on FRS? That is true. Here is some reading material about store and forward on GMRS. A conventional base station can also be set up as a repeater by receiving a signal in the 462 MHz band, and then retransmitting that same signal after a slight delay on the same frequency. This requires attaching an inexpensive store-and- forward device to the base station, but also requires using another device to shut the station off if it is operated from a remote location. Source http://www.wirelessgalaxy.com/twradios/Material/What_is_GMRS.pdf OK I have looked and looked. Lots of people doing simplex repeaters or store and forward on GMRS http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=934430266220 +1+0+0 http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=93443026622 0+1+0+0WAISaction=retrieve WAISaction=retrieve Here is the part 95 rules and nothing in there about not doing it on GMRS. So if it is against the rules please someone show me where. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS. ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance. They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering . Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005% tolerance.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios
I am not questioning the frequency tolerance rules. However a question there does come up. Is a mobile that is hooked up to my 75' tower a mobile or a base station? I can still move the radio any time I want. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios It is true, and it is in the FCC rules. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios Are you sure about that? They were actually selling them at one point. I think Radio Shack had one. I would like to see where it says you can't do it. I will read again but I didn't see it written anywhere. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47 Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios mung_bungholio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. store and forward repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS. ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance. They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering . Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005% tolerance.
RE: Old tubes (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro)
They don't age by sitting on the shelf. They work just fine after sitting there. One of my other hobbies is Hammond Organs and I have plenty of vintage tubes that are still going strong. Doesn't matter if you use them and then leave them sit for a while either. Now capacitors that is a whole different ball game. Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 7:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Old tubes (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro) At 5/24/2008 09:51, you wrote: Don't tubes age just sitting on a shelf? What year were they made? I didn't think so. At least 3 of the 1930/1940's vintage TVs on display at the Early TV Museum in Hilliard, OH work (I turned them on). I'd think today one would have a hard time finding replacement picture tubes for them. BTW, I highly recommend the above as an additional activity before or after Dayton. Normally they're only open on the weekends, but if enough of us want to visit during the week (say, the Thursday before Dayton), I think they'll open for us. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?
Get rid of the LMR400 and replace it with some kind of hardline. Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jstechnicalservice Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:08 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet? Thanks, Ron Here is more information on what we have. The HAAT is 122ft., we currently have a Maxrad MFB-1503 3db antenna and LMR400 coax. We are using a ST2 Midland at 110W and there is some type of older pre-amp installed with no tag, but has 6db hand written on it. Any suggestions for improvement will be appreciated but we do have a limited budget, especially with the impending rebanding. We want the high-band repeater in place for backup when this happens and also as our primary for the time being. Jeff, To really give advice here what HAAT is your antenna. At 100 ft AGL 14 miles is about the expected range. Still depends on your terrain. As for feedline I think the LMR400 is a double shielded coax with 2 different shield materials. It has been found these generate noise on the tx side from the high RF. This would affect rcv. Probably good for rcv, but my standard is have nothing in a repeater that causes problems. I use either RG214 double shielded RG8 size and also 1/4 heliax. Both give good shielding and with short pieces little loss. Also RG142 which is a double shielded RG58 size cable often silver shield. Motorola and others use this inside their equipment. Never use double shielded cable with the 2 shields of different material like 9913 or some of the LMR stuff. Again the tx high RF will generate noise. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: jstechnicalservice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/05/08 Thu PM 12:30:30 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet? I was hoping to get some opinions on the best coax to make jumpers for internal connections on a 152 Mhz public safety repeater. I'm currently using LMR400 and we can hit the repeater consistantly with a 5 watt handheld at 14 miles. The problem is we sometimes need around 15 to 16. I was hoping to improve performance as much as possible. Thanks Jeff Skaggs Concord-Greene FD Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
