Re: [Repeater-Builder] Proto boards

2010-07-21 Thread kd6aaj
Hi Ralph,
 
Check out the yahoo group, ecbarter:. I know the guy who started it (DL). 
People trade/swap electronics parts, wire, etc.

73, KD6AAJ

--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Proto boards
To: Repeater-Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 12:16 PM







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Hi All
Looking for small etched, maybe drilled, small boards with layout for
several transistors, resistors etc all isolated pads

Also looking for ones that have layouts for 8pin, 14 pin or 16 pin dip with
isolated pads for hook up

I have some misc of the above and they are great for inverters, buffers,
little op amps for increasing the level of the disc or tx audio.

Any ideas?

Ralph






  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

2010-04-29 Thread kd6aaj


Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even 
have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios 
preprogrammed with those freqs.

and there is an EXCEPTION:

Title 47: Telecommunication
PART 90—PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES
Subpart N—Operating Requirements

§ 90.427   Precautions against unauthorized operation.
(a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not 
accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly 
authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part 
authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing 
unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be 
construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station 
licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all 
transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of 
those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the 
licenses of those stations.

(b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person shall 
program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the 
transmitter is not authorized.

and:

§ 90.417   Interstation communication.
 top 
(a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station 
without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the communications 
involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or property.

(b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station 
licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with foreign 
stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where the 
communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission must 
be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government that 
authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool eligibles 
with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in accordance with 
Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, DC, 1949, the 
provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). 

[43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997]

---end of CFR regs---

So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for emergency use 
only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to have an 
unauthorized frequency programed in your radio?

So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS you can 
prove intent to operate on the unauthorized frequency for NON-emergency 
communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but they don't say 
what kind of communication was involved.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote:

 In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of 
 Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that the 
 customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 90.427(b) 
 prohibits programming into a transmitter frequencies the licensee using 
 the transmitter is not authorized for.
 
 Make sure your customers are licensed for the frequencies you put in 
 radios you sell!
 
 Information from Mission Critical Magazine, May 2010. FCC enforcement 
 case NOV 20103298.
 -
 Jim Barbour
 Transcore





[Repeater-Builder] Updated repeater-builder page work fine for me

2010-04-13 Thread kd6aaj
As of April 13, 2010 the updated http://www.repeater-builder.com page works 
fine for me.

It took me a few seconds before it redirected to 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/ page.

73,
KD6AAJ


  


Solved: [Repeater-Builder] Problems reaching the RB website sigh

2010-04-09 Thread kd6aaj
AHA! I figured out your problem.
 
Drop the s. It's supposed to be repeater-builder not repeater-builders
 

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, John k...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From: John k...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Problems reaching the RB website sigh
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:54 PM








Repeater-Builder site works fine under Netscape 7.0, no problems

John

Wayne Leake wrote:










 I tried accessing http://repeater-builders.com/ and 
http://www.repeater-bulders.com/ with the latest IE under win XP, and had no 
problem
 Firefox and K-Melon both take me to a web page that suggests the 
URL may be for sale.
 I had a problem, for a very short time, with one hoster, that took a web site 
to a different place when not using the www. a bit of checking and the host 
site too care of that problem.
 Seems like maybe someone is trying to hijack the url, but why it only affects 
some browsers is a mystery indeed. Does need to be looked into...
 
 Wayne WA2YNE
 http://www.desert-rat.com






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

2009-09-10 Thread kd6aaj
Rubber tape is good for high-vibration environments, where the insulation could 
get rubbed off over time. The rubber would get worn down before the insulation. 
Apply cloth tape over it to keep rubber from dripping off in high heat.

Cloth tape is good for higher temps (won't stretch like plastic), and you can 
tie it in knots :) BUT, cloth tape attracts moisture!

Cloth tape is good for base-ball bats! :)

I like Super 88 and 33+, depending on the application. 77 is the cheaper stuff 
I use to tape wires together and pull through conduit.

73, KD6AAJ



--- On Wed, 9/9/09, hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 3:47 PM
 I have heard you all mention scotch
 super 33 vinyl electrical tape and recommended it for a few
 different uses. Is there still any use for rubber and cloth
 type electrical tapes for certain specific tasks?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-28 Thread kd6aaj
70% Isopropanol Alcohal is my favorite cleaner. Make sure all power is off to 
the radio, and give it a few minutes to evaporate before restoring power.
 
73,
 
KD6AAJ

--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:


From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:25 PM














Leave them a note, tell them it’s a CLOSED repeater system.  ( Sorry, I 
couldn’t resist..)  Are you in a cold climate area or is the repeater in a 
WARMER area than the outside ambient air temp? - M
 


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:19 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight
 
  



Hey guys,
I am sure many of you have been through this before.
The evil mice decided to waunder in to my repeater sight. Up until now they
avoided my repeater, but when I went up there, I was less than pleased.
They didn't chew any wires thank god, but they walked across the top of the
icom rp4020, and left some presents if you know what I mean.
I need some input, what's the best way to clean it up, anything in
particular?
All the covers were on, so I don't think they got inside, but haven't pulled
the cover off yet.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jed




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting mice out of a repeater sight

2009-07-28 Thread kd6aaj
The only reason I suggest alcohol, is it is not corrosive to the electronics.
 
O course, if you remove the covers and use bleach, that is ine, as long as you 
rinse them off.
 
I like to use bleach for everything in my house. And Lysol wipes, or the 
Kirkland branded wipes from Costco.

73!


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Fish paper

2009-03-05 Thread kd6aaj

Maybe google for Micarta. We use it for Hi-Voltage (480 VAC) stuff. Material 
we use is thicker than fish paper, though.

If I find any info on fish paper, I'll post it.

73, kd6aaj


--- On Thu, 3/5/09, dallasreact112 dallasreact...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: dallasreact112 dallasreact...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Fish paper
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:28 PM
 Does anybody know of a good source for fish
 paper insulating material?
 I trying to find it available in small quantities.
 
 73
 
 Bernie Parker
 
 K5BP
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

  


RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Fish paper

2009-03-05 Thread kd6aaj


OK, I guess the info is found, I'll leave at that.
 
73, KD6AAJ
 


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter noise help!

2009-01-28 Thread kd6aaj
Yep, sounds like high voltage noise from a dirty insulator, more noticeable in 
foggy conditions. Dirt attracts moisture and at 12,000 Volts (or whatever the 
potential is) you get small shorts that crackle, like in the back of a dirty TV 
set.

If you track it down to a Power Company's insulator, give them a call.

I was working at a saw mill one night when the substation there went down from 
saw dust accumulation on the insulators.

73, KD6AAJ


--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote:

 From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter noise help!
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 6:45 AM
 Have you taken a yagi on the roof and tried to determine the
 direction 
 of the noise?  I find that using the AM mode (on my
 handheld scanner or 
 HT) is easier to pinpoint some forms of noise.  You
 didn't say that you 
 eliminated the antenna.  Using the yagi on the roof should
 give you an 
 idea of where (or where not) the noise is coming from.
 
 I've been off packet radio for years, but one of the
 experiments I 
 always wanted to do is try and audio DSP unit to eliminate
 some forms of 
 noise.  Many people don't realize it, but you have
 discovered how 
 destructive noise can be to a packet AFSK signal.  I had a
 bad power 
 line insulator/tie wire combination outside my house that
 completely 
 decimated my Netrom node digipeater.  The signal sounded
 good to the 
 human ear, but the TNC just couldn't decode anything
 but a full quieting 
 signal.
 
 73, Joe, K1ike
 
 Christopher K. Greenhalgh wrote:
  While not a true repeater, I hoping the gurus here can
 help me.
   
  Station info can be seen here;
 http://www.n8wct.com/n8wct-4/
   
  The noise is a subtle low-frequency bacon
 crackling. It is apparent 
  across the whole 2 meter band. Every piece of (my)
 equipment has been 
  replaced, or substituted. We even bypassed the filter,
 turned 
  everything off, and the noise was still present, even
 on battery 
  power. SWR is fine...the station can be heard 90 miles
 away.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola transistors

2008-11-10 Thread kd6aaj
I have a motorola RF Data book that has transistors in it. I'll try to find the 
book and see if they are in there.

73, DE KD6AAJ


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola transistors
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 6:13 PM
 Does anyone have any specs on Motorola transistors M1106 and
 M1107? - I 
 would need their operating frequency.  Nothing found on
 Google.
 
 Thanks
 
 Ian
 VA2IR
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] seeking executive mobile radio information

2008-10-28 Thread kd6aaj
Thanks Eric!

Maybe I can trade it to someone local who wants one. I'll have to see if I have 
the other crystal somewhere, and see if I can turn it on. With no manual, it is 
almost impossible to know where to start.

I had a Mocom 70 also, but I think it got tossed before we moved. I'll have to 
look for the Mocom 70.

If anyone here desperately needs some parts from it, let me know.

73, KD6AAJ


--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] seeking executive mobile radio information
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 9:44 AM
 That combination number is for a Mastr Progress Line
 Executive Series mobile
 radio, which was offered in three low-band splits: A (25-33
 MHz), B (33-42
 MHz), and C (42-54 MHz).  Since your radio is in the middle
 split, there are
 some modifications necessary to achieve proper operation at
 six meters.
 Unlike later GE radios, this model requires many coils to
 be changed, along
 with many capacitors, in order to operate efficiently in
 the 50-54 MHz band.
 It will take some effort, but it is do-able.  If you have
 only one crystal
 for the radio, it will be difficult to first verify that it
 works on its
 original frequencies, before starting the modification for
 6m.  Take note
 that the B and C splits both use low-side injection for the
 RX oscillator,
 but the C split crystal output is tripled while the B split
 is doubled.
 
 The prognosis for a full-duplex modification is not so
 good.  One fellow in
 my area spent many months trying to convert the same model
 of radio into a
 repeater, but could not avoid significant in-cabinet
 desense,  He finally
 used separate radios for RX and TX, with all power and
 signal lines
 filtered, and got it to work.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 kd6aaj
 Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:17 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] seeking executive mobile radio
 information
 
 I have a low-band RG64TCN22 GE Executive Mobile, including
 the slide-
 on bracket (I used a 10A key to unlock it).
 
 According to the LBI list, the maintenance manual I need is
 LBI-3748.
 It is not in the LBI section, or on the Wish
 List.
 
 Incidently I DO have LBI-4124 for Master Progressive Line,
 which is 
 on the Wish List.
 
 According to the numbers, this radio is a trunk-mount
 mobile,12VDC 
 negative ground, 38-64 Watts, 20 MHz channel spacing, 33-42
 MHz, 2 
 freq TX and 2 freq RX.
 
 I don't have the control head, but the inside is
 sparkling clean, no 
 dust, corrosion or any other signs of physical damage! The
 one 
 crystal in it reads 43 MHz. It has 2 tubes in the PA.
 
 I got it in 1993 as a left-over from the 2-way shop I used
 to work in.
 
 If I can get it to work, I could make a 6 meter repeater
 out of it.
 
 Does anyone have info on this beast?
 
 73, KD6AAJ
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

  


[Repeater-Builder] seeking executive mobile radio information

2008-10-25 Thread kd6aaj
I have a low-band RG64TCN22 GE Executive Mobile, including the slide-
on bracket (I used a 10A key to unlock it).

According to the LBI list, the maintenance manual I need is LBI-3748.
It is not in the LBI section, or on the Wish List.

Incidently I DO have LBI-4124 for Master Progressive Line, which is 
on the Wish List.

According to the numbers, this radio is a trunk-mount mobile,12VDC 
negative ground, 38-64 Watts, 20 MHz channel spacing, 33-42 MHz, 2 
freq TX and 2 freq RX.

I don't have the control head, but the inside is sparkling clean, no 
dust, corrosion or any other signs of physical damage! The one 
crystal in it reads 43 MHz. It has 2 tubes in the PA.

I got it in 1993 as a left-over from the 2-way shop I used to work in.

If I can get it to work, I could make a 6 meter repeater out of it.

Does anyone have info on this beast?

73, KD6AAJ




Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cable

2008-10-02 Thread kd6aaj
I suspect you my need hardline for that distance.
 
I have an interesting theory...
 
What if the length of coax actually were actually long enough for the tx signal 
to remain on the wire while in RX mode? Probably need to be a mile long ;)
 
Another thought; anyone ever run seperate long cables from the TX and RX 
cavities to the combiner (splitter) on the antenna side while the combiner was 
close to the antenna?
 
    
  |
TX cavity |||--coax-O\  combiner |
  
\Ocoax-|  Antenna
  
/ /|\
RX cavity |||-coax--O/ /    
\
 
73, KD6AAJ

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tom Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Tom Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cable
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:06 AM





I recently put a six meter repeater (52.810/51.110) on the air here in 
Anchorage, Alaska.  I am feeding it with about 60 feet of LMR-400 cable and am 
experiencing quite a bit of desense. I did a search for LMR-400 in duplex 
operation and came across several posts from users of this list and decided to 
sign up and investigate some more. I am running a GE Master Pro at 100 watts 
into a 8 cavity Sinclair duplexer. The antenna is a Diamond co-linear mounted 
about 35 feet above ground at the present time. I live on a hill here in town 
and currently have the repeater mounted at my home qth. When I terminate the 
duplexer into a dummy load and look at it with the spectrum analyzer it 
performs very well with no desense. Connecting up the antenna is another story 
altogether. I have been pulling my hair out over this one thinking it must be a 
duplexer problem. Originally I fed the antenna with RG-213 which I know is not 
the best choice for repeater use but it is
 what I had handy at the time. I was getting desense with the RG-213 so I 
switched to the LMR-400 since I had a roll someone had given me. I actually 
think I had slightly less desense with the RG-213.  Is the 400 really not that 
suitable for duplex operation even at 6 meters? What would be a good alternate 
choice ?
 
 
 
 
Thank You 
Tom Elmore KA1NVZ
Anchorage, Alaska  


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR Crimping Tools

2008-08-31 Thread kd6aaj
ebay for ham 2 coax. This guy has some nice ratchet crimp kits, and custom 
kits available for about $50.

Here is the ebay store as of tonight, 8-31-2008:

http://stores.ebay.com/EE-INDUSTRIES_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR Crimping Tools
 To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:22 AM
 Hello All,
 
 I'm in the market for a ratchet crimp tool for LMR400,
 LMR240, RG213, 
 and RG58. I believe I'll either need two tools or one
 handle with 
 replaceable dies.
 
 Anyone have a specific brand or model that they're
 happy with?  If 
 so, where did you get it?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Adam N2ACF



  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yahoo hiccup????

2008-08-26 Thread kd6aaj
Yahoo sucks. Anytime I email myself, it ends up in the Junk folder. Peother 
people in my addressbook (including myself) either end up in JUNK or SPAM.



--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Yahoo hiccup
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:57 AM
 no multi posting here
 
 Chuck Kelsey wrote:
  Is it just me, or is everyone getting the repeated
 posting of this, 
  maybe 6-8 times now???
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* n9wys mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:46 PM
  *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love
 Super 33+ - Was
  Antenna connectors sealing
 instructions
 
  OK, let’s all open our hymnals to page 85 and
 sing, “What a friend
  we have in 3M”…
 
  ;-)
 
  Mark – N9WYS
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 

  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Who is Scotch Kote?

2008-07-24 Thread kd6aaj
Scotch Kote is a 3M product, amber to brown in color (I've seen black, too). 
Another brand sells something called Liquid-Tape, essentialy the same thing, 
but I think Scotch Kote Dries harder, where Liquid Tape is more like tar, and 
gets tacky when hot.
 
It is designed for sealing electrical connections against moisture or dirt, 
typicaly used to seal electrical tape wrapped around coaxial connectors and 
high-voltage (up to 480VAC) connections. 
 
73, kd6aaj

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Who is Scotch Kote?
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:23 PM



 
Hi All!
 
I'm sorry to say this but after all the stuff of the past few days that when 
I saw the post on:
 
How to remove Scotch Kote ...
 
I thought he was a member that someone we wanted off the list!!
 
 
My mind is going . I can feel it!    
 
73, Brian WD9HSY





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[Repeater-Builder] Re: In desperate need of CES 1000M manual

2008-07-23 Thread kd6aaj
I gace CES Wireless a call today, 1(800)327-9956, and asked about the 
1000M for you. The gentleman I spoke with (Troy) said it is about 30 
years old! He said he would try and find some info on it, he has to ask 
another person who has been there longer than him. He's been there 20 
yrs.

I gave him my email, my callsign at yahoo.com in case he finds anything.

73, KD6AAJ


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good evening all, I just got my hands on a Aerotron repeater, with a 
 CES 1000M ANI Code reader, and a CES 520-D intelligent duplex 
 interconnect.  I cannot find a programming manual for the 1000M 
 anywhere.  I am pretty sure that this unit will support a simple 
 repeater controller, but I can't get into it!  It appears that this 
 repeater was set up soley for a phone patch, nothing else, so it is 
not 
 repeating any signals, except for when the interconnect is active.  
 Anyone out there know where I can find a copy of the 1000M manual?
 
 Thanks and 73's 
 Steve, WD0EZS





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to remove Scotch Kote

2008-07-23 Thread kd6aaj
I use Lysol® Brand Bathroom Cleaner with Citric Acid as the active ingrediant. 
It is pretty caustic. I switched to that when my wife was pregnant, not as 
nasty as chlorine bleach (or the gallon of murriatic acid I have) but 
ventilation is a must.

Or, go to the pharmacy and get some powdered citric acid and mix with water 
(wear personal protective equipment: goggles, gloves, etc). Citric Acicd is 
supposedly pretty good for PC-Board etching...have to try it some time.


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to remove Scotch Kote
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 8:50 AM
 I've tried a fair number of of orange citrus cleaning 
 compounds.  Some of the industrial versions are
 highly 
 concentrated and work very well. I would expect places 
 like McMaster Carr, Grainger and similar Industrial Supply 
 Sources to carry the serious concentrated
 versions. 
 
 Home Depot carries Zep aka Zepp, which is just OK and not 
 nearly as serious or concentrated as what I call the
 industrial 
 stuff. Citrus Magic is another consumer cleaner... Compared
 
 to the serious business industrial versions Zepp is just
 OK. 
 
 I've been on the prowl for the serious commercial stuff
 after 
 trying some of the less impressive concentrates. I would
 again 
 expect the industrial quality citrus orange cleaner to
 arrive 
 in the 1 to 3 gallon concentrate size, thick white
 jug or 
 bottle, and a MSDS paper included. I/we should have saved
 the 
 bottle from the last good concentrate I purchased many
 years 
 back... but a large bottle of the good stuff
 will last you 
 years. 
 
 cheers,
 skipp
 
  Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It seems there are a lot of orange
 cleaning compounds. A couple of
 years ago I had my roof replaced. Even though they set up
 tarps to
 catch the old shingles, the siding still suffered a lot of
 scuff marks
 as stuff slid off the roof. When the job was done, the
 roofers went
 around the house spraying this citrus-smelling stuff on the
 vinyl
 siding, waited about 10 seconds, then wiped it and the tar
 streaks
 right off. If you leave it on too long, it'll take the
 paint right off
 aluminum siding and the stuff they use to wrap around
 exposed wood on
 houses.
  
  Most of this stuff is only sold commercially, but if
 it looks orange
 in color and smells of citrus, chances are it'll do the
 job for tar,
 gum, most adhesives, and Scotch Kote.
  
  Bob M.
  ==
  --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   From: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] How to remove Scotch
 Kote
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:57 PM
   Awhile back, I had asked this list for ideas on
 how to
   remove Scotch Kote 
   weather proofing. I was at an auto detailing
 place today
   and just happened 
   to ask them their opinion on the matter. The
 woman pulled
   out a liquid in a 
   spray bottle and gave the dried puddle a few
 squirts. She
   waited a minute or 
   so, and sprayed the area again. After waiting a
 few more
   minutes, she gave 
   another spray and started to brush the area with
 a stiff
   bristle brush. Sure 
   enough the scotch cote started to come loose from
 the
   carpet.
   
   I then asked her to try the spot on the seat.
 Sure enough,
   same results.
   
   The spray was called 'California orange':
  
 http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/C-66pb8_8_07.pdf
   At almost $80 per gallon, it's a bit pricey.
   
   Here is a version in a spray can:
  
 http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/ACO_660pb8_8_07.pdf
   It's a bit more reasonable at $15 per can,
 but it's
   not available in all 
   states due to environmental restrictions.
   
   There you go. Of course, the best plan is not to
 spill the
   stuff. If you do 
   though, this stuff might help you out.
   
   Good Luck,
   Scott
   
   Scott Zimmerman
   Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
   474 Barnett Rd
   Boswell, PA 15531
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange BNC-like connector

2008-07-23 Thread kd6aaj
I remember those in electronics class at the community college. I think they 
are a propriatary connector HP used on their equipment.

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange BNC-like connector
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:21 AM











try pasternak he may show this connector. sounds like an HV connector I 
encountered back years ago. its a fooler if you don't look carefully.
mdm

 









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--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Strange BNC-like connector
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:14 AM




I've got an old piece of HP test equipment that has a very strange BNC 
connector on the back. Initially it looks just like an ordinary BNC female 
jack, and an ordinaryh BNC male connector will start to fit it, but...

It has THREE little nibs sticking out the sides at 120 degree offsets, instead 
of the usual two nibs 180 degrees apart.

I've not come upon any other connector like it. A regular BNC male will fit 
inside but the locking ring with two slots won't mate with the three nibs on 
the outside of the jack.

RF Connectors doesn't have anything like it, and I haven't seen one in the 
Mouser catalog. I could post a photo if it would be helpful.

Anyone have a clue?

Bob M.


 


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How to remove Scotch Kote

2008-07-23 Thread kd6aaj
I also like the Orange Goop® hand cleaner (the kind with no pumice or 
abrasives of any kind), http://www.goophandcleaner.com

I have used it to get Black-Jack tar off my hands when running conduit on a 
roof. Also removeing tar off the family car. Made in USA! I find it at the 
local dollar store sometimes, and buy several at a time.


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How to remove Scotch Kote
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 2:55 AM
 It seems there are a lot of orange cleaning
 compounds. A couple of years ago I had my roof replaced.
 Even though they set up tarps to catch the old shingles,
 the siding still suffered a lot of scuff marks as stuff
 slid off the roof. When the job was done, the roofers went
 around the house spraying this citrus-smelling stuff on the
 vinyl siding, waited about 10 seconds, then wiped it and the
 tar streaks right off. If you leave it on too long,
 it'll take the paint right off aluminum siding and the
 stuff they use to wrap around exposed wood on houses.
 
 Most of this stuff is only sold commercially, but if it
 looks orange in color and smells of citrus, chances are
 it'll do the job for tar, gum, most adhesives, and
 Scotch Kote.
 
 Bob M.
 ==
 --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Scott Zimmerman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Scott Zimmerman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] How to remove Scotch Kote
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:57 PM
  Awhile back, I had asked this list for ideas on how to
  remove Scotch Kote 
  weather proofing. I was at an auto detailing place
 today
  and just happened 
  to ask them their opinion on the matter. The woman
 pulled
  out a liquid in a 
  spray bottle and gave the dried puddle a few squirts.
 She
  waited a minute or 
  so, and sprayed the area again. After waiting a few
 more
  minutes, she gave 
  another spray and started to brush the area with a
 stiff
  bristle brush. Sure 
  enough the scotch cote started to come loose from the
  carpet.
  
  I then asked her to try the spot on the seat. Sure
 enough,
  same results.
  
  The spray was called 'California orange':
  http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/C-66pb8_8_07.pdf
  At almost $80 per gallon, it's a bit pricey.
  
  Here is a version in a spray can:
  http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/ACO_660pb8_8_07.pdf
  It's a bit more reasonable at $15 per can, but
 it's
  not available in all 
  states due to environmental restrictions.
  
  There you go. Of course, the best plan is not to spill
 the
  stuff. If you do 
  though, this stuff might help you out.
  
  Good Luck,
  Scott
  
  Scott Zimmerman
  Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
  474 Barnett Rd
  Boswell, PA 15531
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
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