[Repeater-Builder] Cable lengths

2010-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Here's an excerpt from a TX RX publication that ties in with this 
discussion

Adverse cable length between Duplexer and transmitter using varactor or 
broadband hybrid combining type
transmitter outputs. Even though the Duplexer VSWR is flat on frequency, the 
reflected impedance of the
Duplexer off resonance, transformed by changing cable lengths, can cause 
parasitics to be generated.

Change the length of cable between the transmitter and duplexer, traversing 
through a half wave in increments of between 1 and 2 inches until the 
desensitization ceases or is minimal. A ferrite isolator will also cure this 
condition when it is installed between the transmitter and duplexer. 
However, this is a much more expensive remedy.


Chuck
WB2EDV 



[Repeater-Builder] Cable lengths again

2010-02-04 Thread Al Wolfe
Have a Phelps Dodge 526 UHF duplexer that's missing the cables from the 
tee to the cans. Google came up with one vague reference where someone 
thought these cables were 12 inches long. Is there a chart or formula 
somewhere to determine their proper length?

Thanks,
Al, K9SI



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable lengths again

2010-02-04 Thread Joe
Good timing, I just now have one on the bench tune up.  This 526 was 
originally on 454/459MHz.  Both cables from the tee to the cans are 12 
inches.  This is measured from the far end of the N connector on both 
ends.  In other words, it includes the length of the N connector.  The 2 
cables are Intercomp RG-214/U, so if you use something else you will 
have to take Velocity Factor in mind.  Interestingly, the 4 inter-cavity 
cables are PDCC Type RG-8A/U cable.  I don't know if this was an economy 
choice, or if the cables needed to be more flexible to make the sharp bends.

Or, someone replaced some or all of the cables on the duplexer I have 
here.  I'll see if I can check a couple of other 526's.

73, Joe, K1ike



Al Wolfe wrote:
 Have a Phelps Dodge 526 UHF duplexer that's missing the cables from the 
 tee to the cans. Google came up with one vague reference where someone 
 thought these cables were 12 inches long. Is there a chart or formula 
 somewhere to determine their proper length?

 Thanks,
 Al, K9SI



 



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[Repeater-Builder] Cable lengths - critical?

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Miller
Hi guys.
We finally secured a brck type UHF amp for our hamtronics machine.

The Hamtronics puts out 7 watts after all the filtering into my Bird 
Termaline wattmeter.  This needs to be knocked down to below 4 watts 
so as to not over drive the outboard amp.  I had 2 options - one is to 
insert a pass-can into the TX line before the new amp. I have one at 
home. Tuned it to the correct frequency and it has an insertion loss 
of about 3db or so.  The other suggestion from Hamtronics is to drop 
the V+ to the internal PA of the repeater to 11 volts or so (I can 
insert 3 or 4 diodes in series with the V+ to the PA to do this). 
But , in any case, we will need to make 2 patch cords.  Is the length 
critical (i.e. electrical 1/4 wave or odd multiple thereof) work or 
will any convenienient short length work? We have some 9913 for this.  

Also, the way the repeater is configured right now, at the TX port of 
the repeater (before the filtering) there is a circulator.  Should the 
circulator now be installed after the outboard amp? Or leave it where 
it is?

Thanks.

Ian
VA2IR
VE2RMP Repeater Group



[Repeater-Builder] Cable Lengths and Connectors

2004-01-08 Thread John Clark
I am building notch filters for my 6m repeater project (out of 1 5/8 heliax)
The connecting cables between the filters are all 1/4 wavelength, per the 
design instructions.
The cable connecting the notch filters to the radio will need to have 
connectors in the line (to pass through the cabnet, etc) and be about one 
wavelength long.
Should I put the connectors at the 1/4 wavelength, or should I avoid putting 
connectors there? Does it matter?
To put it another way, where is the place of least loss to put a connector in a 
cable?
Should I use BNC, PL-259, or what?

John- KI4AWK



 

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