[Repeater-Builder] Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater

2005-02-21 Thread mbloom0947


I suspect that many of the participants here have had experience 
selecting UHF repeaters for high-RF applications such as at 
broadcasting sites.   Which would you buy and why?  Yaesu/Vertex, 
ICOM, Kenwood, or some Motorola type?   At present I am using a pair 
of Moto GM300s with a RICK controller.  







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater

2005-02-21 Thread Maire Company

well the best one I like is the Kenwood TKR-840 as we use them for a number 
of UHF sites.
the mate is the TKR-740 VHF

thanks John
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 I suspect that many of the participants here have had experience
 selecting UHF repeaters for high-RF applications such as at
 broadcasting sites.   Which would you buy and why?  Yaesu/Vertex,
 ICOM, Kenwood, or some Motorola type?   At present I am using a pair
 of Moto GM300s with a RICK controller.








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater

2005-02-21 Thread CookTowersInc






Hello All,
The Kenwood TKR-840 is a fine repeater. But I have noted 
that
most of the Hams seem to buy the Kenwood TKR-850 and 
they
work very well. We have a Ham who has a Maggiore
High pro at one of our tower site that is very 
high
RF and works well. We have a 50,000 watt FM 
broadcast
station, a digital TV station that I have no clue what 
it
puts out. 3 cell carriers, 9 trunking systems some 
800
some 900 and a new 460 5 channel trunk. The Ham 
repeater
is in a rack right next to and in the same room as this 
whole
mess. It has a TX/RX duplexer and circulator. No fancy stuff 
just the repeater and a 1200 MHz duplex link. Seems to do just fine. The antenna 
is a DB-420 about 50 feet below the FM broadcast antenna.
Very Best,
Dean Westbrook, EE,PE.















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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater

2005-02-21 Thread Eric Lemmon

Perhaps the best answer is to see what the public-safety agencies use at
sites with several dozen UHF repeaters within a few hundred meters.  In
my area of Central California, the most common repeaters are Motorola
Quantar and MTR2000, or Kenwood TKR-840.  The brand of the repeater used
is driven by the brand of mobile and portable radios being used, since a
Kenwood mobile radio will not mute quietly on a Motorola repeater, and
(except for the Professional Series radios) vice-versa.  While many GE,
Vertex, and Icom radios will mute quietly on a Kenwood repeater, that is
not a given.

While selecting top-quality equipment is important, there is a great
deal of engineering that must go into the design of a repeater at a
dense site.  Logical placement of antennas is important; you don't want
to put your antenna right next to an antenna that has a harmonic or
subharmonic relationship to yours.

My personal preference is to use large-diameter cavity bandpass filters
on both RX and TX, double or triple ferrite circulators on TX, and
nothing but double-shielded cable or hardline throughout.  The Number
One Rule is that nothing but an on-frequency signal can get into my
receiver, and nothing but an on-frequency signal leaves my transmitter. 
In an ideal world, all of the repeaters at a dense site would be
designed to follow this Rule.  Alas, such is not the case...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

mbloom0947 wrote:
 
 I suspect that many of the participants here have had experience
 selecting UHF repeaters for high-RF applications such as at
 broadcasting sites.   Which would you buy and why?  Yaesu/Vertex,
 ICOM, Kenwood, or some Motorola type?   At present I am using a pair
 of Moto GM300s with a RICK controller.
 
 
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