Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
Nate Duehr wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: If the Motorola radios are Professional Series (HT1250, CDM1550, etc.) you can go into CPS and select Non Standard Reverse Burst on the Advanced tab. This will program the radio to encode and decode in the 180 degree format, on a channel-by-channel basis. Kenwood will provide a firmware upgrade to accomplish the same thing- but for a fee, of course, and you must send the radio back to the depot to have this done. Non-standard. Tee Hee. Cute, Motorola. Snuck a little Marketing into their programming software, did they? :-) Nate WY0X Yeah-especially since the 120 degree shift is the 'non-standard' shift.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
Thanks to all that replied. Yes it does need to be a modified file by Kenwood and sent to me. This is a great group. Really appreciate your help! Best Regards, Alan - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question Yes. Kenwood has a firmware fix for this. No big deal at all.
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
Anyone ever have a squelch tail issue with the Kenwood TKR-850 when used with a Motorola CP-200 or CT-250 portables? I tried several reverse burst combinations at the repeater but have not been able to eliminate the squelch tail on the portables. I can program the portables if need be. Thanks!! Alan wa...@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
Yes. Kenwood has a firmware fix for this. No big deal at all. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 18:01:14 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question Anyone ever have a squelch tail issue with the Kenwood TKR-850 when used with a Motorola CP-200 or CT-250 portables? I tried several reverse burst combinations at the repeater but have not been able to eliminate the squelch tail on the portables. I can program the portables if need be. Thanks!! Alan wa...@earthlink.net mailto:wa...@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
What did they fix? Just curious. Nate -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question Yes. Kenwood has a firmware fix for this. No big deal at all.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question Yes. Kenwood has a firmware fix for this. No big deal at all.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
I am sure you can get the firmware for the reverse burst mod. I have it but you need to get a customization report before it can be released. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question Yes. Kenwood has a firmware fix for this. No big deal at all.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
The problem is reverse phasing 120 degrees (Motorola) vs. 180 degrees (mostly everyone else). Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
If the Motorola radios are Professional Series (HT1250, CDM1550, etc.) you can go into CPS and select Non Standard Reverse Burst on the Advanced tab. This will program the radio to encode and decode in the 180 degree format, on a channel-by-channel basis. Kenwood will provide a firmware upgrade to accomplish the same thing- but for a fee, of course, and you must send the radio back to the depot to have this done. I use my personal Motorola HT1250 radio when working with my local police department, which has a Kenwood TKR-840 repeater, and I can also communicate with the County Sheriff Office, which has a Motorola Quantar repeater. Because of the unique capability to select the reverse burst phasing, my radio mutes silently on either radio channel. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The problem is reverse phasing 120 degrees (Motorola) vs. 180 degrees (mostly everyone else). Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Yahoo wrote: The problem is reverse phasing 120 degrees (Motorola) vs. 180 degrees (mostly everyone else). Jeff Ah, yeah... that old tired problem. You'd think they'd pay attention and just put BOTH options in the menu in the software these days... Darn, I thought it might be something INTERESTING. You're bummin' me out here, Jeff! Heh heh... Can always just switch to DCS and avoid that silliness altogether, I guess... Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: If the Motorola radios are Professional Series (HT1250, CDM1550, etc.) you can go into CPS and select Non Standard Reverse Burst on the Advanced tab. This will program the radio to encode and decode in the 180 degree format, on a channel-by-channel basis. Kenwood will provide a firmware upgrade to accomplish the same thing- but for a fee, of course, and you must send the radio back to the depot to have this done. Non-standard. Tee Hee. Cute, Motorola. Snuck a little Marketing into their programming software, did they? :-) Nate WY0X
