[Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax

2005-12-01 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A

Trying to help a friend locate some data on Phelps-Dodge FX-14-50 (or
FX-14-50H) cable, probably from the early or mid 70's.  It's 1/4, aluminum
shield, jacketed cable.  In particular he's looking for the velocity factor.
The cable is in use as buried sample lines in AM array, and he needs an
accurate Vf figure to locate a fault by TDR.  Anyone have an old
Phelps-Dodge catalog on hand?

--- Jeff


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax

2005-12-01 Thread Tony Faiola


Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote:
 Trying to help a friend locate some data on Phelps-Dodge FX-14-50 (or
 FX-14-50H) cable, probably from the early or mid 70's.  It's 1/4, aluminum
 shield, jacketed cable.  In particular he's looking for the velocity factor.
 The cable is in use as buried sample lines in AM array, and he needs an
 accurate Vf figure to locate a fault by TDR.  Anyone have an old
 Phelps-Dodge catalog on hand?
 
   --- Jeff
 
 
 Jeff DePolo WN3A - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Broadcast and Communications Consultant 

Hello Jeff:

I found a 1974 Phelps Dodge catalog in my library.  It covers the 50 Ohm 
Aluminum Sheathed foamflex cables, FX12-50 and FX 12-50H, but nothing on 
the FX-14-50.

Interesting thing is that the specs don't mention the VF, only 
dimensions, loss, etc.

If you would like, send me your fax number, and I'll fax you the pages 
of the cables from the catalog.

Ciao, 73, Tony, K3WX







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax

2005-12-01 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
T
Thanks for the offer Tony.  My friend has that same catalog which lacks a Vf
spec which is why I thought I'd try checking here.

Does anyone remember if ComProd (before it became Phelps-Dodge) made coax?
That was before my time.  Anyone have an old CommProd catalog?

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 Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote:
  Trying to help a friend locate some data on Phelps-Dodge 
 FX-14-50 (or
  FX-14-50H) cable, probably from the early or mid 70's.  
 It's 1/4, aluminum
  shield, jacketed cable.  In particular he's looking for the 
 velocity factor.
  The cable is in use as buried sample lines in AM array, and 
 he needs an
  accurate Vf figure to locate a fault by TDR.  Anyone have an old
  Phelps-Dodge catalog on hand?
  
  --- Jeff
  
  
  Jeff DePolo WN3A - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Broadcast and Communications Consultant 
 
 Hello Jeff:
 
 I found a 1974 Phelps Dodge catalog in my library.  It covers 
 the 50 Ohm 
 Aluminum Sheathed foamflex cables, FX12-50 and FX 12-50H, but 
 nothing on 
 the FX-14-50.
 
 Interesting thing is that the specs don't mention the VF, only 
 dimensions, loss, etc.
 
 If you would like, send me your fax number, and I'll fax you 
 the pages 
 of the cables from the catalog.
 
 Ciao, 73, Tony, K3WX
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax

2005-12-01 Thread Tony Faiola
Hello Jeff:

I thought I had an old comprod catalog, but can't find it.  However, I 
did have an old 1974 vintage Prodelin catalog.  It had their line of 
Spir 0 foam coaxial cable listed.

It did have listed in it a very similar 1/2 type cable with a VF of 
81%.  Perhaps they made this cable for com products or vice versa.  The 
VF for the 75 and 50 ohm cable of this size and 3/8 and 7/8 were also 
the same.

Again, if you want me to fax the page out of this catalog, let me know.

I'll bet the VF is 81% on that vintage cable.  During that era, they all 
competed with the same spec cable.

Ciao, 73, Tony, K3WX

Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote:
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 Thanks for the offer Tony.  My friend has that same catalog which lacks a Vf
 spec which is why I thought I'd try checking here.
 
 Does anyone remember if ComProd (before it became Phelps-Dodge) made coax?
 That was before my time.  Anyone have an old CommProd catalog?
 
 
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Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote:

Trying to help a friend locate some data on Phelps-Dodge 

FX-14-50 (or

FX-14-50H) cable, probably from the early or mid 70's.  

It's 1/4, aluminum

shield, jacketed cable.  In particular he's looking for the 

velocity factor.

The cable is in use as buried sample lines in AM array, and 

he needs an

accurate Vf figure to locate a fault by TDR.  Anyone have an old
Phelps-Dodge catalog on hand?

 --- Jeff


Jeff DePolo WN3A - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Broadcast and Communications Consultant 

Hello Jeff:

I found a 1974 Phelps Dodge catalog in my library.  It covers 
the 50 Ohm 
Aluminum Sheathed foamflex cables, FX12-50 and FX 12-50H, but 
nothing on 
the FX-14-50.

Interesting thing is that the specs don't mention the VF, only 
dimensions, loss, etc.

If you would like, send me your fax number, and I'll fax you 
the pages 
of the cables from the catalog.

Ciao, 73, Tony, K3WX







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax/Jeff

2005-12-01 Thread albemarle7





Jeff,
I have information on Cablewave Systems FXA 14-50 
1/4 (810951-002). Foamflex copper center, low loss cellular polyethylene foam 
dielectric and smooth wall aluminum outer conductor.
Cablesize: 1/4 inch
Imp 50 ohm
velocity of Propagation percent 81
Max. Freq 90% fco Ghz 19.2 etc., etc.
Aprotective black outer jacket will have a "J" suffix (FXA 
38-50J)
If this is what you want, give me your FAX number and I will send it to 
you.

My old Prodelin and Phelps Dodge/Cel Wave catalogs listwhat you 
wantbut no velocity factor given.
I am in Trenton, NJ and its payback timethank you for the two Icom's 
you left for me on my repeater a couple years ago. Hope this helps.
Gary Katona K2UQ














  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax

2005-12-01 Thread albemarle7





Jeff,
I FAXed you the Cablewave Systems data sheet on the 
1/4 inch hardline earlier this evening. Hope you received it and it's what your 
looking for. I did talk to my friend in Connecticut this evening and he said 
Cablewave Systems is now called Radio Frequency Systems (RFS) and relocated to 
Meriden, Ct. Theywere a ham friendly and he thinks they still are. 
Hope this helps.
Gary K2UQ
 













  




  
  
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