Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mask filters?

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, IM Ashford wrote:
> These filters are constant impedance designs so the transmitters 
> unwanted sideband power gets dumped into a load on the Hybrid port. 
> This also helps with group delay at edges of the filtered response.
> 
> ... cant see why a ham would make a filter with twice as many cavities than
> needed, just to keep SWR low out of band..

Perfectly matching your noise and reflected power to a dummy load, 
minimizing mixing and out of band signals. 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mask filters?

2010-02-22 Thread IM Ashford
Kris,

These filters are constant impedance designs so the transmitters unwanted
sideband power gets dumped into a load on the Hybrid port. This also helps
with group delay at edges of the filtered response.


... cant see why a ham would make a filter with twice as many cavities than
needed, just to keep SWR low out of band..

The only possible use would be as a combiner for two repeater transmitters
because one hybrid port acts as a wideband input. Problem is, if you are on
2m with two repeaters 60kHz apart each resonator has to be pass F1 and short
F2.

mange tout
Ian
G8PWE


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mask filters?


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> In the commercial world of broadcasting, there is a hybrid filter used
> called a mask filter. The mask filter is two -90 degree hybrids, a dummy
> load, and a pair of bandpass cavities between them. They suppress
> sidebands and keep the TV transmitter's radiation within the 6MHz
> channel.
>
> Has anyone heard of a similar concept used for filtering amateur
> repeaters?
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[Repeater-Builder] Mask filters?

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Kirby

In the commercial world of broadcasting, there is a hybrid filter used 
called a mask filter. The mask filter is two -90 degree hybrids, a dummy 
load, and a pair of bandpass cavities between them. They suppress 
sidebands and keep the TV transmitter's radiation within the 6MHz 
channel.

Has anyone heard of a similar concept used for filtering amateur 
repeaters?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst