RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-23 Thread Morris Dillingham
Well, that's good news.  Maybe that's why I could find no references to the
replacement procedure.  I suppose that NHRC is being cautious in case
mileage varies.

 

73 de
Morris KI4IUA



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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56
split

 


I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never had to
change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and tune per the
manual.

I use a Bird milliWatt meter that has a 250 mW full scale and an internal 50
Ohm load to finish the tuning, after going through the test points with a
Simpson 260.  Peaking the previous stage and dipping for the input to the
next stage as per the tuning instructions will give you a working exciter as
long as there is no component issue in the exciter.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Morris Dillingham mdi...@nnwifi.com wrote:

From: Morris Dillingham mdi...@nnwifi.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56
split
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:20 PM

Now that you have helped me close out the old Spectrum issues, can anyone
point me to the list of caps and their new values to convert the exciter
board of a Master II station? On the NHRC site I see mention of the need to
change out a dozen or so caps but no other references.

73 de 
Morris KI4IUA













RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-23 Thread Morris Dillingham
Since we are retuning to 147.330 transmit and 147.930 receive, we are at the
end of the band that should help.  Thanks to all for the reassurance.

73 de 
Morris KI4IUA
 


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 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n...@no6b.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:36 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to
 56 split
 
 At 3/22/2009 15:03, you wrote:
 I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never had
 to
 change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and tune per
 the manual.
 
 Same experience here, except that if you want to put one on the 144.390
 APRS frequency you may find that some exciters don't quite make it down
 that far.
 
 Bob NO6B
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread Morris Dillingham
Now that you have helped me close out the old Spectrum issues, can anyone
point me to the list of caps and their new values to convert the exciter
board of a Master II station?  On the NHRC site I see mention of the need to
change out a dozen or so caps but no other references.

73 de 
Morris KI4IUA
 


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread Jim Brown
I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never had to 
change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and tune per the 
manual.

I use a Bird milliWatt meter that has a 250 mW full scale and an internal 50 
Ohm load to finish the tuning, after going through the test points with a 
Simpson 260.  Peaking the previous stage and dipping for the input to the next 
stage as per the tuning instructions will give you a working exciter as long as 
there is no component issue in the exciter.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Morris Dillingham mdi...@nnwifi.com wrote:
From: Morris Dillingham mdi...@nnwifi.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:20 PM












Now that you have helped me close out the old Spectrum issues, can 
anyone

point me to the list of caps and their new values to convert the exciter

board of a Master II station?  On the NHRC site I see mention of the need to

change out a dozen or so caps but no other references.



73 de 

Morris KI4IUA

 




 

  




 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread no6b
At 3/22/2009 15:03, you wrote:
I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never had to 
change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and tune per 
the manual.

Same experience here, except that if you want to put one on the 144.390 
APRS frequency you may find that some exciters don't quite make it down 
that far.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 n...@no6b.com wrote:
 I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never 
 had to change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and 
 tune per the manual.
 
 Same experience here, except that if you want to put one on the 
 144.390 APRS frequency you may find that some exciters don't quite 
 make it down that far.

What sort of temperature coeffiecent does the exciter have? If I want to 
find the limits of lock, do I need to freeze it or heat it up to 140 
degrees?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread Nate Duehr

On Mar 22, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Kris Kirby wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 n...@no6b.com wrote:
 I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never
 had to change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency  
 and
 tune per the manual.

 Same experience here, except that if you want to put one on the
 144.390 APRS frequency you may find that some exciters don't quite
 make it down that far.

 What sort of temperature coeffiecent does the exciter have? If I  
 want to
 find the limits of lock, do I need to freeze it or heat it up to 140
 degrees?

I'll say this:  Many people put their repeaters in temperature  
controlled environments and then hunt needlessly for 2C ICOM's.

There's a chart in the LBIs for where/when the temperature  
compensation kicks in.  More folks should read it.  (GRIN!)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
n...@natetech.com






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-22 Thread Jim Brown
Hey - I thought we were talking about the standard osc/multiplier exciters for 
VHF.  The only thing I have ever had to do to move a PLL exciter down into the 
ham band is replace the aluminum slug in the PLL coil with a ferrite slug.  My 
installs are non temperature controlled and the temps range from -10 to about 
100 deg F.  No problems with maintaining a lock over that range, but the 
exciter was optimized at room temp for the correct lock voltage on only one 
frequency.  The applications have all been repeaters with no frequency 
switching.

I understand that some component values are changed for a factory change in 
frequency from commercial frequencies down into the ham band, but I have not 
had to make any changes other than the slug change when converting a 66 range 
PLL exciter.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote:
From: Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion  to 56 
split
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 5:40 PM












On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 n...@no6b.com wrote:

 I have retuned 10+ GE Mastr II exciters - base/moble and have never 

 had to change a component.  Put the ICOM in for the new frequency and 

 tune per the manual.

 

 Same experience here, except that if you want to put one on the 

 144.390 APRS frequency you may find that some exciters don't quite 

 make it down that far.



What sort of temperature coeffiecent does the exciter have? If I want to 

find the limits of lock, do I need to freeze it or heat it up to 140 

degrees?



--

Kris Kirby, KE4AHR

Disinformation Analyst