Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-09-02 Thread Tony KT9AC
Does anyone know if a MSF5000 converted to narrowband operation would be 
legal under Part 90 after 2013?


Tony

Gary wrote:
 


Don't know where you got the below 512Mhz comment from (except perhaps a
sloppy comment in a recent article printed in Urgent Communications) but
here's what the R O really says;

Earlier in this proceeding, the Commission took the following actions in
order to bring
about a timely transition to narrowband technology: (1) set January 1, 
2013,

as the deadline for Industrial/Business and Public Safety Radio Pool
licensees in the 150-174 MHz and 421-512 MHz bands to either migrate 
to 12.5
kHz technology, or utilize a technology that achieves equivalent 
efficiency;

(2) prohibited any applications for new systems using 25 kHz channels, or
modification applications that expand the authorized contour of an 
existing

25 kHz station, effective January 1, 2011; (3) prohibited the manufacture
and importation of any 150-174 MHz or 421-512 MHz band equipment 
capable of

operating with only one voice path per 25 kHz of spectrum, i.e., equipment
that includes a 25 kHz mode, beginning January 1, 2011; and (4) prohibited
the certification of any equipment that includes a 25 kHz mode
beginning January 1, 2011.2

Keep in mind this applies to Part 90 services and not Part 95 or 97 radio
services.
Gary

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

Help!

The FCC rules on narrow-banding seem to be contradictory when it comes to
determining if VHF low band must be converted to narrow band.

On one hand, the FCC states that All below 512 MHz which implies 
VHF low

but on the other they specifically mention VHF high and UHF, specifically
NOT mentioning VHF low band.

I need to come up with a specific reference from FCC docs either requiring
or exempting VHF low from narrow banding requirements.

Urban legend and I heard won't get the funding if VHF low must be
narrow-banded - only something form the FCC can make the $$ flow.
And, yes, I looked but found nothing definitive.

Thanks,
Bill - WB1GOT



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[Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread wmhpowell
Help!

The FCC rules on narrow-banding seem to be contradictory when it comes to 
determining if VHF low band must be converted to narrow band.

On one hand, the FCC states that All below 512 MHz which implies VHF low 
but on the other they specifically mention VHF high and UHF, specifically NOT 
mentioning VHF low band.

I need to come up with a specific reference from FCC docs either requiring or 
exempting VHF low from narrow banding requirements.

Urban legend and I heard won't get the funding if VHF low must be 
narrow-banded - only something form the FCC can make the $$ flow.
And, yes, I looked but found nothing definitive.

Thanks,
Bill - WB1GOT




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-08-31 Thread Gary
Don't know where you got the below 512Mhz comment from (except perhaps a
sloppy comment in a recent article printed in Urgent Communications) but
here's what the R O really says;

Earlier in this proceeding, the Commission took the following actions in
order to bring
about a timely transition to narrowband technology: (1) set January 1, 2013,
as the deadline for Industrial/Business and Public Safety Radio Pool
licensees in the 150-174 MHz and 421-512 MHz bands to either migrate to 12.5
kHz technology, or utilize a technology that achieves equivalent efficiency;
(2) prohibited any applications for new systems using 25 kHz channels, or
modification applications that expand the authorized contour of an existing
25 kHz station, effective January 1, 2011; (3) prohibited the manufacture
and importation of any 150-174 MHz or 421-512 MHz band equipment capable of
operating with only one voice path per 25 kHz of spectrum, i.e., equipment
that includes a 25 kHz mode, beginning January 1, 2011; and (4) prohibited
the certification of any equipment that includes a 25 kHz mode
beginning January 1, 2011.2

Keep in mind this applies to Part 90 services and not Part 95 or 97 radio
services.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wmhpowell
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:49 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

Help!

The FCC rules on narrow-banding seem to be contradictory when it comes to
determining if VHF low band must be converted to narrow band.

On one hand, the FCC states that All below 512 MHz which implies VHF low
but on the other they specifically mention VHF high and UHF, specifically
NOT mentioning VHF low band.

I need to come up with a specific reference from FCC docs either requiring
or exempting VHF low from narrow banding requirements.

Urban legend and I heard won't get the funding if VHF low must be
narrow-banded - only something form the FCC can make the $$ flow.
And, yes, I looked but found nothing definitive.

Thanks,
Bill - WB1GOT








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