[Repeater-Builder] New Repater Sytem Help!!!

2005-11-22 Thread kfd29
We installed a small repeater system on our new fire station and are 
not getting the coverage we expected at all.  Our antenna sits about 
27m up on top of the building.  The repeater is a 50watt VHF w/ 
duplexer.  I believe it's the old coax we are using, which I think is 
about 15 yrs old and may have been hit by lighting in the past.  If 
anyone can help us out it would be great!!  I have many questions but 
for now,,, what type of coax should we get if this needs to be 
replaced?  What about a lighting arrestor, necessary?  Would a rusty, 
old tripod work fine or will it cause some kind of interference?  and 
with this height, about what kind of range can we except (we use 
mostly 5watt portables).  Thanks for the help!! We are trying to save 
money in our small dept by troubleshooting it the best we can before 
calling the pros lol.  

Please e-mail me w/ your advice, or questions
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repater Sytem Help!!!

2005-11-22 Thread Andrew G.



Just so you don't have to spend more money on a new repeater after a few thunderstorms, a lightning arrestor is a must. A polyphaser is the arrestor of choice on our systems. The old feedline could be the problem as far as your coverage problems go.  Some things to help determine what you problem might be are:Is there any desense between your TX and RX?  What kind of antenna are you using?  Terrain issue maybe?Also I would see about measuring the power out of the coax at the antenna end and do a quick calculation on what your losses are. For a VHF repeater, 1/2" Andrews Heliax is a pretty good choice for VHF for the $$. Andy
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Repater Sytem Help!!!

2005-11-22 Thread N9WYS










I second this suggestion. I use
Polyphaser arresters, and have been quite happy with them. Youll know
when they take a hit. wink



I also have some questions for the original
poster, though.



You mentioned that the antenna is about
27m up on top of the building. Did you mean 27 FEET? Afterward you
asked about a rusty tripod  I dont think they make them 27 METERS
tall. grin



Did you replace an older repeater? What
brand did you settle on? Finally, why didnt the department budget to
replace the infrastructure along with the repeater?



Just curious.

Mark  N9WYS











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New Repater Sytem Help!!!







Just so you don't have to spend more money on a new repeater after a
few thunderstorms, a lightning arrestor is a must. A polyphaser is the arrestor
of choice on our systems. The old feedline could be the problem as far as your
coverage problems go.





Some things to help determine what you problem might be are:











Is there any desense between your TX and RX?





What kind of antenna are you using?





Terrain issue maybe?











Also I would see about measuring the power out of the coax at the
antenna end and do a quick calculation on what your losses are. For a VHF
repeater, 1/2 Andrews Heliax is a pretty good choice for VHF for the $$. 











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