Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT ACSSB - how does it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

2009-11-12 Thread Derek J. Lassen

Have a look at http://www.kangaus.com/kk7b.htm

At 01:50 11/12/2009 -0800, you wrote:



This problem (generating the 90 degree phase 
shift audio) is all that is keeping me from an 
experiment to generate a SSB signal using a 
little known technique I ran across in an old 
QST.  It seems that a phase modulated FM signal 
can be combined with amplitude modulation with 
the audio 90 degree phase shifted and generate a 
SSB signal.  The experiments referenced wound up 
with a SSB signal with full carrier.


My first foray into sideband operation back in 
the late '50s was with a command transmitter 
with the grids modified to push pull and 
applying push pull audio to the screens.  This 
generated a double sideband suppressed carrier signal.


I suspect that I could modify a GE Prog 
transmitter by rewiring the grids of a 60 Watt 
final to push pull and applying push pull audio 
to the screens and applying 90 degree phase 
shifted audio to the normal phase modulation 
input would generate a SSB suppressed carrier signal.


I suspect the pre-emphasis in the phase 
modulation circuit would have to be defeated, or 
does a phase modulation scheme automatically generate the pre-emphasis?


73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, DCFluX  wrote:

From: DCFluX 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] acssb - how does 
it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:02 PM



I was playing with the ideas of making adapters, 
but it is supprisingly difficult to throw audio 
exactly 90 degrees out of phase over a broad frequency range.






[Repeater-Builder] OT ACSSB - how does it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

2009-11-12 Thread Jim Brown
This problem (generating the 90 degree phase shift audio) is all that is 
keeping me from an experiment to generate a SSB signal using a little known 
technique I ran across in an old QST.  It seems that a phase modulated FM 
signal can be combined with amplitude modulation with the audio 90 degree phase 
shifted and generate a SSB signal.  The experiments referenced wound up with a 
SSB signal with full carrier.

My first foray into sideband operation back in the late '50s was with a command 
transmitter with the grids modified to push pull and applying push pull audio 
to the screens.  This generated a double sideband suppressed carrier signal.

I suspect that I could modify a GE Prog transmitter by rewiring the grids of a 
60 Watt final to push pull and applying push pull audio to the screens and 
applying 90 degree phase shifted audio to the normal phase modulation input 
would generate a SSB suppressed carrier signal.

I suspect the pre-emphasis in the phase modulation circuit would have to be 
defeated, or does a phase modulation scheme automatically generate the 
pre-emphasis?

73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, DCFluX  wrote:

From: DCFluX 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] acssb - how does it work and is it possible  
for the hobbyist to scratch build
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:02 PM







 



  



  
  
  I was playing with the ideas of making adapters, but it is supprisingly 
difficult to throw audio exactly 90 degrees out of phase over a broad frequency 
range.