[Repeater-Builder] R100 stays keyed up

2009-12-30 Thread Rob
Hi all,

I have a Motorola R100 2-10w UHF repeater on the bench. It was working 
fine (pulled from of working service) until a frequency programming 
change (only 25 kHz). Now it stays keyed unless I change the repeater 
disable switch on the board. It does pass receiver audio normally but 
the repeater never drops the carrier. In fact it keys up immediately 
upon power on. I disconnected the receiver to make sure it nothing was 
causing the transmitter to trigger.

I am not too familiar with troubleshooting these repeaters as they have 
always worked well in the past. Am I looking at a codeplug corruption 
issue or is it a coincidental hardware issue.

Any tips or sharing of common failures appreciated. Thanks.

- Rob



Re: [Repeater-Builder] R100 stays keyed up

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I'd start at http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/r100/r100-index.html
and download the service manual.  Start at the transmitter PTT line and see
if it's pulled low.
If it is, backtrack on the schematic / transmitter board and see 
what's doing it.
If it's not, then I'd look at the codeplug.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 08:52 AM 12/30/09, you wrote:
Hi all,

I have a Motorola R100 2-10w UHF repeater on the bench. It was working
fine (pulled from of working service) until a frequency programming
change (only 25 kHz). Now it stays keyed unless I change the repeater
disable switch on the board. It does pass receiver audio normally but
the repeater never drops the carrier. In fact it keys up immediately
upon power on. I disconnected the receiver to make sure it nothing was
causing the transmitter to trigger.

I am not too familiar with troubleshooting these repeaters as they have
always worked well in the past. Am I looking at a codeplug corruption
issue or is it a coincidental hardware issue.

Any tips or sharing of common failures appreciated. Thanks.

- Rob







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] R100 stays keyed up

2009-12-30 Thread DCFluX
Some repeaters have the option of letting the VCO run continuiously
and they key the power amp circuits, The benefit is the PTT rise time
goes from 50-100mS down to like 4mS. The disadvatage is that any
radios in close proximity to the repeater hear the VCO running due to
leakage, is that the case here? Do you actually have full power out of
the repeater all the time?

Also you might try removing the programing cable from the repeater as
it appears to share the PTT line.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] R100 stays keyed up

2009-12-30 Thread Rob
DCFluX wrote:
 Some repeaters have the option of letting the VCO run continuiously
 and they key the power amp circuits, The benefit is the PTT rise time
 goes from 50-100mS down to like 4mS. The disadvatage is that any
 radios in close proximity to the repeater hear the VCO running due to
 leakage, is that the case here? Do you actually have full power out of
 the repeater all the time?
 
 Also you might try removing the programing cable from the repeater as
 it appears to share the PTT line.
 


It is full output (10W) as measured on the Telewave meter. I did remove 
the programming cable when I did the power cycling.

Thanks,

- Rob