Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
Jon; Using the dsb dongle which is a CM108 chip based usb audio interface one of the internal I/O pins of the device is mapped for each ptt and cor.. BUT.. COR is not really needed as the device DSP can handle signal to noise squelch and will work better on its own on raw discriminator.. PTT is required and if you build your own dongle.. you add a ptt transistor inside the device... It is a USB Sound FOB... I ordered 5 of them for about $7.00 ea... Information on the modifications is published... Google CM108 usb sound fob app_rpt and you should find several links.. or start at the allstar link page.. Doug Jon Bivin - WB0VTM wrote: hey Doug, How is COR and PTT accomplished on this? Is it through the dongle? Or the comports? Thanks, Jon - WB0VTM - Original Message - *From:* Doug Bade mailto:k...@thebades.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
Personally, I have always liked eQSO. I've used it since about 2002. I have also used Echolink. For several years I had my repeater set up to interface with both Echolink eQSO. -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:45:04 PM PDT From: wa5jxy wa5...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
Asterisk is your answer, You can build a cheap interface to use with asterisk, try 6 bucks. Anyway just go to the website Asterisk Radio Network or Asterisk Amateur Radio Network and send an e-mail and those guys will help you out. 73 Will a5jxy wrote: OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY
RE: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
Ok here are some prices for the Cisco solution. Cisco 2600XM router 50 to 200 bucks on eBay depends on what cards might be in router. VIC-2E/M 12 to 40 Bucks on eBay, NM-2V 33 bucks buy now on eBay. This is what you need on each site minimum. If you hooked up with a ham that is a Cisco Jock, you should be able to do each site for less than 200 bucks. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wa5jxy Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
There is an extension to asterisk called app_rpt. It can run with conferences or not or you can build your own conference bridge. It uses sub 10.00 USB dongles for the radio interface. AllStarLink etc are just conference bridges and registries offering packaged install distros but the underlying install software is an app_rpt extension. You can install it on any linux distro or use ready made versions. I suspect it will do what you want... but there is a learning curve... I am currently playing with a distro called Limey Linux which is made for embedded Flash type installs.. like SD cards or CF cards.. 128mb size area. I am using a D945GCLF motherboard.. sub 100 with cpu and ram.. In any case the application is probably very suitable for your needs.. and free There is also are companies that produce apps like XIPAR... there are free parts and chargeable parts.. but looks like they offer the bridge software too.. If you want to stick with telephony the app_rpt system will work with FXS,FXO and similar cards for radio interfaces.. but the usb dongles are capable of handling much lower level interface to the radio at baseband..and do ctcss etc in the DSP They are all based on the connectivity of asterisk so sounds like you are familiar with that part. Doug wa5jxy wrote: OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
hey Doug, How is COR and PTT accomplished on this? Is it through the dongle? Or the comports? Thanks, Jon - WB0VTM - Original Message - From: Doug Bade To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap There is an extension to asterisk called app_rpt. It can run with conferences or not or you can build your own conference bridge. It uses sub 10.00 USB dongles for the radio interface. AllStarLink etc are just conference bridges and registries offering packaged install distros but the underlying install software is an app_rpt extension. You can install it on any linux distro or use ready made versions. I suspect it will do what you want... but there is a learning curve... I am currently playing with a distro called Limey Linux which is made for embedded Flash type installs.. like SD cards or CF cards.. 128mb size area. I am using a D945GCLF motherboard.. sub 100 with cpu and ram.. In any case the application is probably very suitable for your needs.. and free There is also are companies that produce apps like XIPAR... there are free parts and chargeable parts.. but looks like they offer the bridge software too.. If you want to stick with telephony the app_rpt system will work with FXS,FXO and similar cards for radio interfaces.. but the usb dongles are capable of handling much lower level interface to the radio at baseband..and do ctcss etc in the DSP They are all based on the connectivity of asterisk so sounds like you are familiar with that part. Doug wa5jxy wrote: OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY
[Repeater-Builder] ROIP - Cheap
OK, I have searched the ROIP posts, and I have to say all the posts I have viewed just miss the point of what I am looking for. Yes, there are MANY ROIP commercial product related posts. All What I am looking for is a SIMPLE and CHEAP solution for ROIP for AMATEUR service. OK, I understand the commercial product line and the need for small business solutions (). Raytheon NXU etc. What about the amateur service trying to break into the ROIP solution? I built a P25 repeater for amateur service just because the technology is there. It works and is cheaper than buying a complete P25 commercial repeater. Now I want to build a ROIP interface similar to IRLP and Echolink without a central server owned by someone else. I have the dedicated fiber infrastructure (10GB backbone) in place I can utilize for ROIP. What I need is a schematic so I can build my own ROIP cards for PC or a cheap already built card available on ebay. There must be a Asterisk and cheap card solution out there. Anybody already done this? I have an Asterisk PBX server already built and working. Anybody set up Asterisk for ROIP and what card(s) did you use? I see then for $159 on ebay but I already have MANY parts and can build them cheaper, but still need a schematic or pre-built card. If not, how about starting a discussion to do this? My goal is to link several repeaters via ROIP other than echolink or IRLP. Thanks! Neil WA5JXY
