Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
At 9/3/2007 11:31 PM, you wrote: >On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: > > > Maybe I'm just a crab, but I wonder if you'd be better off buying a > > good used IFR or H-P service monitor that has more features, for > > about the same price. Keep in mind that a new service monitor with > > a few very useful options- the R2600D comes to mind- is in the > > $15,000 class. You get what you pay for! But, hey, if you have > > only the basic needs for measurement of power, center frequency, > > and audio deviation, maybe the Ramsey unit is ideal. Choose wisely. > >Eric's not a crab, he's right... > >It took me three years of searching and asking every single person I >knew, but I eventually found an IFR 1500 for $2000 from a private >seller who even performed a repair on it when he pulled it out of >storage and found that it had a video sync problem. There were lots of IFR 1200s at Dayton this year; the market prices should be dropping as more analog-only test equipment hits the surplus market. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Eric Lemmon wrote: > Maybe I'm just a crab, but I wonder if you'd be better off buying a > good used IFR or H-P service monitor that has more features, for > about the same price. Keep in mind that a new service monitor with > a few very useful options- the R2600D comes to mind- is in the > $15,000 class. You get what you pay for! But, hey, if you have > only the basic needs for measurement of power, center frequency, > and audio deviation, maybe the Ramsey unit is ideal. Choose wisely. Eric's not a crab, he's right... It took me three years of searching and asking every single person I knew, but I eventually found an IFR 1500 for $2000 from a private seller who even performed a repair on it when he pulled it out of storage and found that it had a video sync problem. I wouldn't spend $4K on the Ramsey box. I was tempted MANY times -- and told not to do it by friends who had already found their "dream machines', and they were right. Another friend found an HP 8920B for $500... which really was a deal "too good to be true"... it's off-frequency. He'll have to have some calibration work done... but if the repairs are done properly and for a reasonably low cost, he'll have an amazing piece of equipment there that'll last him a very long time. (And even with it having problems, I'm jealous.) -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Eric, Vince, etc.: I'm going to add a P:S: to this thread. I'm looking to upgrade to the HP 8920 series that has a tracking generator; mine does not. Anyone interesting in entertaining some type of swap, trade, buyout, whatever, I'm all ears! If this is going to happen, I need to talk to someone out there in the group that knows of a reputable dealer who sells HP service monitors. Let's save some bandwidth and keep it off the list. Private email to don at httpd dot org if anyone wants particulars. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions > Vince, > > I agree with Don's comment. I looked at the COM3010 specs, and watched > the Ramsey video, and I conclude that it is a very basic, no-frills unit > that might (I can't say will!) satisfy a first-time buyer's expectations. > On the other hand, if you already have used an IFR, H-P, Motorola, or > General Dynamics communications service monitor, you will be disappointed. > > From what I can see, the Ramsey COM3010 doesn't have a scope or spectrum > display, it can't display analog information as a bar graph, it can't > decode CTCSS and CDCSS into their exact values, it has no dummy protection > (accidentally transmitting into the receive port), it doesn't have a 10 > MHz frequency standard input, and it doesn't have the time base precision > that the high-tier machines have. I don't like the idea that date and > time cannot be adjusted by the user. > > Maybe I'm just a crab, but I wonder if you'd be better off buying a good > used IFR or H-P service monitor that has more features, for about the same > price. Keep in mind that a new service monitor with a few very useful > options- the R2600D comes to mind- is in the $15,000 class. You get what > you pay for! But, hey, if you have only the basic needs for measurement > of power, center frequency, and audio deviation, maybe the Ramsey unit is > ideal. Choose wisely. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:29 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions > > > Vince, > > You may want to investigate getting into an IFR-1200S service monitor for > about the same amount of money. I picked one up on E-Bay for $3750.00 > some time ago. > > Also look at: http://www.kgelectronics.com/ > <http://www.kgelectronics.com/> > > He used to work for IFR and repairs / sells them. If he doesn't have what > you want he can usually find out where you can get one. > > Hope this helps, > > Don, KD9PT > > > - Original Message - > From: Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions > > Agreed, thats the only thing holding me up from taking the plunge. > > > George Henry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a > > 'scope > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > > > *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM > > *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor > > Opinions > > > > I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service > > Monitor > > for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is > > familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would love > > to > > hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K plunge. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > <http://img.msgtag.com/arh/rhBkkbuxf/xtiFfmerefdrCvj/fqxlm.gif> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > !DSPAM:1016,46d9e5dd428145209328925! > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
That stopped me too, then I found a Motorola R2600 on Ebay for less than 4k KB2SSE Ken On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 14:05 -0400, Vincent Caruso wrote: > Agreed, thats the only thing holding me up from taking the plunge. > > > George Henry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a > 'scope... > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > > *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM > > *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor > Opinions > > > > I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service > Monitor > > for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list > is > > familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would > love to > > hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K > plunge. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > >
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Vince,
I agree with Don's comment. I looked at the COM3010 specs, and watched the
Ramsey video, and I conclude that it is a very basic, no-frills unit that might
(I can't say will!) satisfy a first-time buyer's expectations. On the other
hand, if you already have used an IFR, H-P, Motorola, or General Dynamics
communications service monitor, you will be disappointed.
>From what I can see, the Ramsey COM3010 doesn't have a scope or spectrum
>display, it can't display analog information as a bar graph, it can't decode
>CTCSS and CDCSS into their exact values, it has no dummy protection
>(accidentally transmitting into the receive port), it doesn't have a 10 MHz
>frequency standard input, and it doesn't have the time base precision that the
>high-tier machines have. I don't like the idea that date and time cannot be
>adjusted by the user.
Maybe I'm just a crab, but I wonder if you'd be better off buying a good used
IFR or H-P service monitor that has more features, for about the same price.
Keep in mind that a new service monitor with a few very useful options- the
R2600D comes to mind- is in the $15,000 class. You get what you pay for! But,
hey, if you have only the basic needs for measurement of power, center
frequency, and audio deviation, maybe the Ramsey unit is ideal. Choose wisely.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Vince,
You may want to investigate getting into an IFR-1200S service monitor for about
the same amount of money. I picked one up on E-Bay for $3750.00 some time ago.
Also look at: http://www.kgelectronics.com/ <http://www.kgelectronics.com/>
He used to work for IFR and repairs / sells them. If he doesn't have what you
want he can usually find out where you can get one.
Hope this helps,
Don, KD9PT
- Original Message -
From: Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Agreed, thats the only thing holding me up from taking the plunge.
George Henry wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a
'scope...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> >
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> >
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM
> *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor
Opinions
>
> I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service
Monitor
> for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is
> familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would
love to
> hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K
plunge.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
<http://img.msgtag.com/arh/rhBkkbuxf/xtiFfmerefdrCvj/fqxlm.gif>
!DSPAM:1016,46d9aa96413921259319195!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Vince, You may want to investigate getting into an IFR-1200S service monitor for about the same amount of money. I picked one up on E-Bay for $3750.00 some time ago. Also look at: http://www.kgelectronics.com/ He used to work for IFR and repairs / sells them. If he doesn't have what you want he can usually find out where you can get one. Hope this helps, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Vincent Caruso To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions Agreed, thats the only thing holding me up from taking the plunge. George Henry wrote: > > > > > The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a 'scope... > > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM > *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions > > I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor > for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is > familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would love to > hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K plunge. > > Thanks in advance > > !DSPAM:1016,46d9aa96413921259319195!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
Agreed, thats the only thing holding me up from taking the plunge. George Henry wrote: The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a 'scope... - Original Message - *From:* Vincent Caruso <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would love to hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K plunge. Thanks in advance
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
The major complaint that I have heard about it is the lack of a 'scope... - Original Message - From: Vincent Caruso To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would love to hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K plunge. Thanks in advance
[Repeater-Builder] Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor Opinions
I am seriously thinking of purchasing a Ramsey COM3010 Service Monitor for my home bench and was wondering if anyone else on the list is familiar with this, owns one or has worked with one. I would love to hear the pros and cons on this product before taking the 4K plunge. Thanks in advance
