Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Good place to inject CTCSS in to the Mastr2 control shelf from the TP-3200 panel? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: AJ wrote: Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR Nope, not quite. PTT from the 3200 would go to the CTCSS decode input of the NHRC. COS from the MII would go to the COS on the NHRC. Rx audio from the MII is raw discriminator, best place is high side of the vol pot (NOT the wiper!) CTCSS tone encode out from the 3200 would go to a CG input on the MII.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Pretty good chance you can't. Typically the CG encoder is in the TX compartment. You'll need to run a shielded line from an unused terminal on the door to your external encoder and jumper that terminal to the CG input of the exciter. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: AJ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? Good place to inject CTCSS in to the Mastr2 control shelf from the TP-3200 panel? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: AJ wrote: Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR Nope, not quite. PTT from the 3200 would go to the CTCSS decode input of the NHRC. COS from the MII would go to the COS on the NHRC. Rx audio from the MII is raw discriminator, best place is high side of the vol pot (NOT the wiper!) CTCSS tone encode out from the 3200 would go to a CG input on the MII.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Mike Pugh wrote: tsoli...@tir.com wrote: Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. I'd like to see this diagram as well, since I had been thinking about this for quite some time... However, at least on my copy of the original message, there is no diagram below Can it be sent again, or be sent directly to me? Thanks in advance. Mike Pugh KA4MKG If you've ever hooked a normal ham controller to a repeater, you don't need a drawing. The PTT output from the tone panel would go to the CTCSS input on the controller. The encode tone out would go wherever the CTCSS injection is on the exciter. Get COS for the controller the way you normally would from the rx. Run raw discriminator audio to the rx input of the tone panel. Transmit audio can either be taken from the tone panel or directly from the rx the way you normally would if you didn't have the tone panel. About as simple as it gets.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:49 AM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Pugh wrote: tsoli...@tir.com tsoliver%40tir.com wrote: Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. I'd like to see this diagram as well, since I had been thinking about this for quite some time... However, at least on my copy of the original message, there is no diagram below Can it be sent again, or be sent directly to me? Thanks in advance. Mike Pugh KA4MKG If you've ever hooked a normal ham controller to a repeater, you don't need a drawing. The PTT output from the tone panel would go to the CTCSS input on the controller. The encode tone out would go wherever the CTCSS injection is on the exciter. Get COS for the controller the way you normally would from the rx. Run raw discriminator audio to the rx input of the tone panel. Transmit audio can either be taken from the tone panel or directly from the rx the way you normally would if you didn't have the tone panel. About as simple as it gets.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
AJ wrote: Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR Nope, not quite. PTT from the 3200 would go to the CTCSS decode input of the NHRC. COS from the MII would go to the COS on the NHRC. Rx audio from the MII is raw discriminator, best place is high side of the vol pot (NOT the wiper!) CTCSS tone encode out from the 3200 would go to a CG input on the MII.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:10 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in fact using a CSI TP-3200 shared repeater tone panel (single unit in the 19 form factor). I know of a number of less common CSI (Ventura, CA) tone panels... if you're panel wasn't the CSI Washington or Com-Spec TP-3200 then there's only one mfgr left using the CSI label. I'm at a bit of a loss on this one Given the NHRC-7 controller with it's PL encode and PL decode pins, what exactly would the interface be between the TP3200 and the NHRC-7? Ideas? I'm going to roll over and drop out of this thread. You need to talk directly with some of the GE Master II people who have done external controller connections. Don't forget to check the Repeater-Builder.com web page for related information. good luck, s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Yup-that's what I said ;c} tsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Of course, the copy of the manual on RB doesn't have images... Go figure LOL :) Thanks for the help! 73s, AJ, K6LOR On 2/12/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: Yup-that's what I said ;c} tsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
tsoli...@tir.com wrote: Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. I'd like to see this diagram as well, since I had been thinking about this for quite some time... However, at least on my copy of the original message, there is no diagram below Can it be sent again, or be sent directly to me? Thanks in advance. Mike Pugh KA4MKG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
The RB copy is what we got from Com-Spec. If anybody wants to scan their paper manual and email us the more complete file(s) we will replace the existing copy. Mike WA6ILQ At 01:03 PM 02/12/09, you wrote: Of course, the copy of the manual on RB doesn't have images... Go figure LOL :) Thanks for the help! 73s, AJ, K6LOR On 2/12/09, wd8chl mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.comwd8...@gmail.com wrote: Yup-that's what I said ;c} mailto:tsoliver%40tir.comtsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.comwd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
I am in fact using a CSI TP-3200 shared repeater tone panel (single unit in the 19 form factor). I know of a number of less common CSI (Ventura, CA) tone panels... if you're panel wasn't the CSI Washington or Com-Spec TP-3200 then there's only one mfgr left using the CSI label. I'm at a bit of a loss on this one Given the NHRC-7 controller with it's PL encode and PL decode pins, what exactly would the interface be between the TP3200 and the NHRC-7? Ideas? I'm going to roll over and drop out of this thread. You need to talk directly with some of the GE Master II people who have done external controller connections. Don't forget to check the Repeater-Builder.com web page for related information. good luck, s.
