Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater

2009-05-21 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote:

> Some people use voice detection to make/provide a COS/COR 
> logic, some folks "tack on" a CTCSS (PL) Decoder and some 
> actually open the radio to find a usable "tap point" in 
> the receiver circuit. Depending on how tricky (and how much 
> money) you want to invest in the package... voice operation 
> can work, or it can be quirky, jerky and a real pain to 
> deal with. An Icom 2AT "probably blows" enough CTCSS tone 
> through the regular speaker audio output where you could 
> easily tack a decent CTCSS Decoder on for decent full CTCSS 
> Operation. 
> 
> No kits yet... but I'm thinking about it... 
> 
> cheers, 
> skipp 
> 
> www.radiowrench.com/sonic 


I have a 2A made into a 'remote base' radio, ie, mounted in a metal box 
and screwed to a rack chassis, with a terminal strip for 
gozinta/gozouta. If I remember, I tapped the high side of the volume pot 
for a TS-32. Encode went in following the instructions for the version 
of the SS-32 that was made for portables and small radios of the late 
70-s/early 80's...it's out there somewhere...and I did find COS 
somewhere too...probably with help from the old ACC notes.
Now I have a 4A from my dad's estate I may see if I can do the same 
thing with...


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater

2009-05-21 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote:
> Hi Fred, 
> 
> It would probably be more accurate to call it a cross band 
> port hole or window unless both bands are full repeaters with 
> audio and COS/COR working together. 

worm hole?




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater

2009-05-21 Thread Brian
Hey

If you want a simple kit the partical Basic controller kit is very 
reasonable.
www.ics-ctrl.com

73
Brian
ka9pmm

skipp025 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> It would probably be more accurate to call it a cross band
> port hole or window unless both bands are full repeaters with
> audio and COS/COR working together.
>
> It's been done many times with both mobiles and portables
> with an example like the Motorola Radius/Maxtrac Radios wired
> "back to back".
>
> One of the group members here wired two HT (portables) into
> a repeater, which could just as easily be converted to a
> cross-band port hole (window). I've seen that project twice
> at the Dayton Hamvention and it looks pretty nice.
>
> I've wired the Icom 2at and 02at (and higher band) portables
> into both cross-band and full repeater operation. The hardest
> task is dealing with (finding) valid receive signal logic
> from the receiver... used to provide the PTT (transmit)
> direct or through some type of controller circuit.
>
> Some people use voice detection to make/provide a COS/COR
> logic, some folks "tack on" a CTCSS (PL) Decoder and some
> actually open the radio to find a usable "tap point" in
> the receiver circuit. Depending on how tricky (and how much
> money) you want to invest in the package... voice operation
> can work, or it can be quirky, jerky and a real pain to
> deal with. An Icom 2AT "probably blows" enough CTCSS tone
> through the regular speaker audio output where you could
> easily tack a decent CTCSS Decoder on for decent full CTCSS
> Operation.
>
> No kits yet... but I'm thinking about it...
>
> cheers,
> skipp
>
> www.radiowrench.com/sonic
>
> > "Fred"  wrote:
> > Hello:
> > I would like to build a low power 5 watt cross-band
> > repeater for 2m/440 use. I recall seeing this set up
> > using 2 HT's, also 2 mobile rigs. Has anyone built
> > something to suit my needs, or are there kits available?
> > Thank you
> > 73 de Fred W1POP
>
> 
> 
>
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater

2009-05-21 Thread skipp025
Hi Fred, 

It would probably be more accurate to call it a cross band 
port hole or window unless both bands are full repeaters with 
audio and COS/COR working together. 

It's been done many times with both mobiles and portables 
with an example like the Motorola Radius/Maxtrac Radios wired 
"back to back". 

One of the group members here wired two HT (portables) into 
a repeater, which could just as easily be converted to a 
cross-band port hole (window). I've seen that project twice 
at the Dayton Hamvention and it looks pretty nice. 

I've wired the Icom 2at and 02at (and higher band) portables 
into both cross-band and full repeater operation. The hardest 
task is dealing with (finding) valid receive signal logic 
from the receiver... used to provide the PTT (transmit) 
direct or through some type of controller circuit. 

Some people use voice detection to make/provide a COS/COR 
logic, some folks "tack on" a CTCSS (PL) Decoder and some 
actually open the radio to find a usable "tap point" in 
the receiver circuit. Depending on how tricky (and how much 
money) you want to invest in the package... voice operation 
can work, or it can be quirky, jerky and a real pain to 
deal with. An Icom 2AT "probably blows" enough CTCSS tone 
through the regular speaker audio output where you could 
easily tack a decent CTCSS Decoder on for decent full CTCSS 
Operation. 

No kits yet... but I'm thinking about it... 

cheers, 
skipp 

www.radiowrench.com/sonic 



> "Fred"  wrote:
> Hello:
> I would like to build a low power 5 watt cross-band 
> repeater for 2m/440 use. I recall seeing this set up 
> using 2 HT's, also 2 mobile rigs. Has anyone built 
> something to suit my needs, or are there kits available?
> Thank you
> 73 de Fred W1POP 




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Homebrew low power Repeater

2009-05-21 Thread william
Hello:Dave
ypur proyet is a verry good idea, I will like to have more information on the 
way it put together, i like to know it be posible to make i wiht tow hi power 
mobiles radios it be great.
thanks for the atencion to this meassge.
William N1LIU73'S


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave E Stephens Sr  wrote:
>
> i built a low power (in band) repeater using 2 IC-2at's and a NHRC-2 
> controler. that thing worked great for a 3 watt repeater. now you can do the 
> same using a 2, 3, or 4 a, or at walkie. its rather simple. to be honest, if 
> you have the knowledge to pass the tech ham test, you can build this. start 
> off with the NHRC-2 controller. read how the thing works and then get the 2 
> walkies. trust me. its easy
>  
> Rev. Dave Stephens Sr
> KF6WJA 
> Grants Pass Or
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Fred  wrote:
> 
> From: Fred 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Homebrew low power Repeater
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:13 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello:
> I would like to build a low power 5 watt crossband repeater for 2m/440 use. I 
> recall seeing this set up using 2 HT's, also 2 mobile rigs.
> Has anyone built something to suit my needs, or are there kits available ?
> Thank you
> 73 de Fred W1POP
>