[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Good Suggestion Shanon! I have actually needed those chips from time to time (thanks!) What about this? I have a handful of dtmf pads from various IC2at, 3at and 4at (one other that is a knock off that starts with a S?) that was used in remote base projects. I wonder if I could make one of these work? What a great idea for programming these things (Arcom 210 btw) What would I need to make that work? Thanks, Robert KD4YDC
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Hi Robert... Bottom line is you need some sort of power to run the TT Pad. If the controller doesn't send it up the line from the microphone jack, you have to figure out how to get it there. There have been several good suggestions how to accomplish that. Are you looking for help with a pin by pin conversion? LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Suggestion Shanon! I have actually needed those chips from time to time (thanks!) What about this? I have a handful of dtmf pads from various IC2at, 3at and 4at (one other that is a knock off that starts with a S?) that was used in remote base projects. I wonder if I could make one of these work? What a great idea for programming these things (Arcom 210 btw) What would I need to make that work? Thanks, Robert KD4YDC
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Off topic? How so? The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Sounds like to me Jeremy has clearly stated that the arcom 210 was involved in is technical issue since it wasn't picking up tones no matter what he tryed. Never assume anything just because is't new. I had some of the same issues with a second controller purchased. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Jeremy asked for help OR SUGGESTIONS! So i gave my suggestions. Sorry if you didn't see it that way. I even gave the RC-210 a second chance to my great disappointment of purchasing a second controller. Needless to say it got sold on ebay right away. Eric
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At 9/5/2008 22:26, you wrote: Heck, While we re piling on, I had a Pinto oncedamned thing smoked all the time, finally caught fire. COOOL. -M Funny, I never heard of a Pinto repeater. ;) Bob NO6B
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At 9/5/2008 22:53, you wrote: We are putting up three new repeaters. I just got Hipro's new catalog and I see Arcom is listed in what looks like a favored status. Since we have limited funds, I would like to know if there are problems with it or is it just a fluke? If so we can look at other controllers. I would appreciate feedback before we spend money. Anyone please? Thank you! 73 Dave My recommendation for a 3-port controller is the SCom 7330. It's a bit more expensive that the RC-210 but IMO is of higher quality. All ports have dedicated hardware (tone CTCSS generators, voice, etc.). Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Thanks for all of the suggestions. I have found that the tones coming out of the mic are simply not hot enough for the controller. I was able to use the pad built into the Arcom RCP software. As far as purchasing a pad, I was looking in the 5 dollar range, I will probably wait until the Butler(PA) Hamfest, and search through the boxes under the tables. As far as the controller itself, It is for a club repeater and the decision to purchase it was a compromise of price and performance. For the money, the 210 is a great buy in my opinion, and I don't see how your opinion of the 210 has anything to do with my original question. Again, thanks to all who provided feedback on the microphone issue, maybe I will plug away at it next week...for now, I have a controller to program and get wired up. 73's Jeremy Lobaugh KB3BAM The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways. But he uses a base ten counting system and likes round numbers. -Scott Adams --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S- Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6ilq@ wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
I did the original programming of my NHRC-4 controller using this download. I just ran the s/w and held the mic to the computer speaker. http://www.polar-electric.com/DTMF/Index.html Chuck Lippmeier KB1HTO
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http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=104168/grpspId=1705063108/msgId=85144/stime=1220664258/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3 Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I have the controller up and running now, thanks to the DTMF encoder built into the RCP software. The Repeater-Builders Friend will have to wait for a bit, most likely until a hamfest, when I come across an old HT or a unmounted encoder, for cheap-like, I really don't need the microphone, but it was free, which fits well into my budget for the project. 73's Jeremy Lobaugh KB3BAM winmail.dat
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On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, georgiaskywarn wrote: Good Suggestion Shanon! I have actually needed those chips from time to time (thanks!) They're still available, made by a number of companies. BG Micro used to stock the California Microdevices copy of the chip. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Hello, I have (2) brand new, sealed in packs, Pipo PK-2KM DTMF encoders (which is the 16 key with A,B,C and D keys along with the optional automatic keying relay and the optional mounting frame) available to the group if anyone is interested. Goto www.pipo.net for all the specs and pics. List for $83.00 ea. I will sell for $50.00 ea. with shipping included. Please contact off list with any questions, etc. 73 and thanks, Doug N4TZD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Maybe not ALL, but all /\/\ DTMF mics DO require mic bias. Walter KD7BJJ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Motorola mics are 'pre-amped' mics. Not accurate... [paste text] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Main Entry: ac·cu·rate Listen to the pronunciation of accurate Pronunciation: \#712;a-ky#601;-r#601;t, #712;a-k(#601;-) r#601;t\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin accuratus, from past participle of accurare to take care of, from ad- + cura care Date: 1596 Most of the more common Motorola mics you might find, but not all. cheers, s.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S-Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Eric.. Your response is out of line and indicates your either inability to understand the original post or the technical needs of the situation. Clearly, at this point, this is an interface issue between two different manufacturer's products. In no way does he complain that either is not working properly. I have absolutely nothing to do with ARCOM or Ken Ark or have any opinion...but taking someone else's legitimate question and using it as a platform for a biased diatribe, is clearly out of place for common consumption. LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S- Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6ilq@ wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ
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lenaw12 wrote: Eric.. Your response is out of line and indicates your either inability to understand the original post or the technical needs of the situation. Clearly, at this point, this is an interface issue between two different manufacturer's products. In no way does he complain that either is not working properly. I have absolutely nothing to do with ARCOM or Ken Ark or have any opinion...but taking someone else's legitimate question and using it as a platform for a biased diatribe, is clearly out of place for common consumption. LW seconded. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippity-do-dah
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Use a resistor and cap to inject bias on the mic line. Robert... --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Eric, I bought a DTMF encoder to use on an ARCOM board in July. I cannot recall what we got for it but I have contacted the seller to get that info. I just don't recall what we bought..at the moment. As soon as I find that out, I will post it here for you. That board works fine on the ARCOM 210. I'll get back to you as soon as and IF I find out. - Mike From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions lenaw12 wrote: Eric.. Your response is out of line and indicates your either inability to understand the original post or the technical needs of the situation. Clearly, at this point, this is an interface issue between two different manufacturer's products. In no way does he complain that either is not working properly. I have absolutely nothing to do with ARCOM or Ken Ark or have any opinion...but taking someone else's legitimate question and using it as a platform for a biased diatribe, is clearly out of place for common consumption. LW seconded. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Eric Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippity-do-dah __ NOD32 3419 (20080905) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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Eric I really don't desire to get into a pissing contest with you over an issue that was settled literally YEARS ago but if you insist, I would be more than happy to once more post the entire exchange that took place back then. You didn't exactly come out smelling like a rose as you may remember. While we obviously will never meet everyone's needs nor will be able to please everyone, we do try and have hundreds and hundreds of satisfied customers. Both of our products and of the support they receive from us. One final suggestion if I may. I would strongly suggest you consider the laws on slander and libel should you decide to continue down this road. Ken At 11:30 AM 9/5/2008, Eric Harrison wrote: Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S-Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htmhttp://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Your right about one thing Ken, I didn't come out smelling like a rose as I never got my controller back from you or even a refund! But thats ok as I've learned the hard way on that. Glad to see you've have satisfied customers. Sorry I'm not among them. I said the controller was poorly engineered, not junk. Even Motorola came out with some poorly engineered equipment. I have just learned to steer clear of them all. Eric --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric I really don't desire to get into a pissing contest with you over an issue that was settled literally YEARS ago but if you insist, I would be more than happy to once more post the entire exchange that took place back then. You didn't exactly come out smelling like a rose as you may remember. While we obviously will never meet everyone's needs nor will be able to please everyone, we do try and have hundreds and hundreds of satisfied customers. Both of our products and of the support they receive from us. One final suggestion if I may. I would strongly suggest you consider the laws on slander and libel should you decide to continue down this road. Ken At 11:30 AM 9/5/2008, Eric Harrison wrote: Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S-Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6ilq@ wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htmhttp://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Guys... You've both made your points...now...as it's a he said, she said PLEASE take it behind the barn... LW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your right about one thing Ken, I didn't come out smelling like a rose as I never got my controller back from you or even a refund! But thats ok as I've learned the hard way on that. Glad to see you've have satisfied customers. Sorry I'm not among them. I said the controller was poorly engineered, not junk. Even Motorola came out with some poorly engineered equipment. I have just learned to steer clear of them all. Eric --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah6le@ wrote: Eric I really don't desire to get into a pissing contest with you over an issue that was settled literally YEARS ago but if you insist, I would be more than happy to once more post the entire exchange that took place back then. You didn't exactly come out smelling like a rose as you may remember. While we obviously will never meet everyone's needs nor will be able to please everyone, we do try and have hundreds and hundreds of satisfied customers. Both of our products and of the support they receive from us. One final suggestion if I may. I would strongly suggest you consider the laws on slander and libel should you decide to continue down this road. Ken At 11:30 AM 9/5/2008, Eric Harrison wrote: Fist of all I would have not wasted my money a such a poorly engineered controller, ARCOM RC-210). Second of all if it is a new controller assembled and tested at the factory then I would be contacting Ken Ark with ACOM and getting your money back (GOOD LUCK!) or having him help you trouble-shoot your problem. I have owned two of these controllers in the past and had nothing but issue after issue with them. As I said before they are a poorly engineered controller. Suggest you look at Link-Comm or S-Comm for you future controller needs. ERIC N7JYS --- In mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6ilq@ wrote: At 10:47 AM 09/03/08, you wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM Check out http://www.pipo.net/http://www.pipo.net/ I've used the PK3 a couple of times: http://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htmhttp://www.pipo.net/productlis2.htm Good stuff. Joe Oliveira is good people. Mike WA6ILQ -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
At 9/5/2008 12:29, you wrote: Eric.. Your response is out of line and indicates your either inability to understand the original post or the technical needs of the situation. How is one stating his personal experience with/opinions on a specific model of repeater-related equipment out of line? I have absolutely nothing to do with ARCOM or Ken Ark or have any opinion...but taking someone else's legitimate question and using it as a platform for a biased diatribe, is clearly out of place for common consumption. Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I disagree. Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't like about the RC-210. I've owned one myself didn't care for it either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Bob, I thought Eric's attack on Ken and the RC-210 controller was very uncalled for also. The poor fellow asking for help, or the rest of us, for that matter did not need to get drug into this several year old disagreement between Eric and Ken. All that was asked for was some help getting his Motorola DTMF Mic working properly with his new controller. There have been several threads here on this list asking everyone's opinion on what controller they prefer and why. Lot's of reading if you search through the archives. There was no need for this thread to head in this direction. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 9/5/2008 12:29, you wrote: Eric.. Your response is out of line and indicates your either inability to understand the original post or the technical needs of the situation. How is one stating his personal experience with/opinions on a specific model of repeater-related equipment out of line? I have absolutely nothing to do with ARCOM or Ken Ark or have any opinion...but taking someone else's legitimate question and using it as a platform for a biased diatribe, is clearly out of place for common consumption. Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I disagree. Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't like about the RC-210. I've owned one myself didn't care for it either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I disagree. Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't like about the RC-210. I've owned one myself didn't care for it either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions. Bob NO6B Bob and all the others who have opposite opinions The obvious track would be to start a new string that was on topic... Nowhere has anyone asked for opinions as to the quality of the Motorola mic, the microphone cable, the connector, or the ARCOM controller. If you and all the others who have opposite opinions (opposite to what I don't know) want to discuss the advantages or disadvantages of one of the particular components in the original setup, start a new topic... That way, those of us who have heard this before can ignore the same old discussion that occurred previously. Otherwise, the rest of us would like to work at resolving the original problem which is purely technical in nature at this time and not emotional. LW
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Heck, While we're piling on, I had a Pinto once.damned thing smoked all the time, finally caught fire. COOOL.. -M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lenaw12 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:11 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I disagree. Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't like about the RC-210. I've owned one myself didn't care for it either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions. Bob NO6B Bob and all the others who have opposite opinions The obvious track would be to start a new string that was on topic... Nowhere has anyone asked for opinions as to the quality of the Motorola mic, the microphone cable, the connector, or the ARCOM controller. If you and all the others who have opposite opinions (opposite to what I don't know) want to discuss the advantages or disadvantages of one of the particular components in the original setup, start a new topic... That way, those of us who have heard this before can ignore the same old discussion that occurred previously. Otherwise, the rest of us would like to work at resolving the original problem which is purely technical in nature at this time and not emotional. LW __ NOD32 3421 (20080906) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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We are putting up three new repeaters. I just got Hipro's new catalog and I see Arcom is listed in what looks like a favored status. Since we have limited funds, I would like to know if there are problems with it or is it just a fluke? If so we can look at other controllers. I would appreciate feedback before we spend money. Anyone please? Thank you! 73 Dave lenaw12 wrote: Other than being off-topic for the topic (but not this list), I disagree. Personally, I'd like to know exactly what Eric doesn't like about the RC-210. I've owned one myself didn't care for it either, but obviously many others have opposite opinions. Bob NO6B Bob and all the others who have opposite opinions The obvious track would be to start a new string that was on topic... Nowhere has anyone asked for opinions as to the quality of the Motorola mic, the microphone cable, the connector, or the ARCOM controller. If you and all the others who have opposite opinions (opposite to what I don't know) want to discuss the advantages or disadvantages of one of the particular components in the original setup, start a new topic... That way, those of us who have heard this before can ignore the same old discussion that occurred previously. Otherwise, the rest of us would like to work at resolving the original problem which is purely technical in nature at this time and not emotional. LW Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
The typical motorhead mic requires voltage on at least one pin to power the internal encoder circuit and the electret mic element. It's also common to have the audio and dc supply voltage on the same wire/lead, which at first glance seems to freak a lot of people out... but is actually easy and very smart to do. Some mic input circuits actually add the transmit receive status onto the same line using some rather inventive methods... meaning you can supply all the required power, obtain both voice and dtmf audio out of... and toggle transmit ptt status all through one pair of wires. The answer to your specific question would probably be... you might simply need to supply voltage to the mic-hi (high) lead through a modestly high value resistor. 24K or 27K 1/2 watt might be an initial value to start off. At the controller end/side of things... just make sure there's a capacitor at/on the audio lead going into the controller to isolate/prevent the dc supply from shorting toward ground. your turn... cheers, s. jlobaugh814 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am constructing one of the repeater-builders friends', and am in need of a DTMF pad, or suggestions. I have a Motorola DTMF mic that I picked up from someone @ work. I have tried it direct into the controller, through a pot, and through an amplifier w/ a matching transformer on it. The controller is an ARCOM 210 and it does not seem to be picking up the tones no matter what I try. The controller is brand new, and was purchased assembled and tested, so I can only assume that it is fully functional. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Jeremy KB3BAM
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
All Motorola mics are 'pre-amped' mics. Not accurate... [paste text] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Main Entry: ac·cu·rate Listen to the pronunciation of accurate Pronunciation: \#712;a-ky#601;-r#601;t, #712;a-k(#601;-)r#601;t\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin accuratus, from past participle of accurare to take care of, from ad- + cura care Date: 1596 Most of the more common Motorola mics you might find, but not all. cheers, s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
The original project used the style keypad that was meant to add DTMF to handhelds back in the day, I came across someone that had a bunch at a ham fest for $5 a pop. Check your or your friends junk box for and dead HTs from the late 70s and 80s for a keypad unit that detaches. A quick ebay search turns up this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Digitran-DTMF-Pad-Keypad-for-HAM-Mobile-Portable-Radio_W0QQitemZ350093213928QQihZ022QQcategoryZ25300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem But it does not have the letter column. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:27 AM, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Motorola mics are 'pre-amped' mics. Not accurate... [paste text] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Main Entry: ac·cu·rate Listen to the pronunciation of accurate Pronunciation: \ˈa-kyə-rət, ˈa-k(ə-)rət\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin accuratus, from past participle of accurare to take care of, from ad- + cura care Date: 1596 Most of the more common Motorola mics you might find, but not all. cheers, s. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
That appears to be old phone pad. Probably will work ok. You will need to figure out where and how to interface. 73 Dave DCFluX wrote: The original project used the style keypad that was meant to add DTMF to handhelds back in the day, I came across someone that had a bunch at a ham fest for $5 a pop. Check your or your friends junk box for and dead HTs from the late 70s and 80s for a keypad unit that detaches. A quick ebay search turns up this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Digitran-DTMF-Pad-Keypad-for-HAM-Mobile-Portable-Radio_W0QQitemZ350093213928QQihZ022QQcategoryZ25300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem But it does not have the letter column. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:27 AM, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Motorola mics are 'pre-amped' mics. Not accurate... [paste text] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Main Entry: ac·cu·rate Listen to the pronunciation of accurate Pronunciation: \ˈa-kyə-rət, ˈa-k(ə-)rət\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin accuratus, from past participle of accurare to take care of, from ad- + cura care Date: 1596 Most of the more common Motorola mics you might find, but not all. cheers, s. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
skipp025 wrote: All Motorola mics are 'pre-amped' mics. Not accurate... [paste text] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accurate Main Entry: ac·cu·rate Listen to the pronunciation of accurate Pronunciation: \#712;a-ky#601;-r#601;t, #712;a-k(#601;-)r#601;t\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin accuratus, from past participle of accurare to take care of, from ad- + cura care Date: 1596 Most of the more common Motorola mics you might find, but not all. cheers, s. Well, I was leaving out the old carbon mics... ;c}
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions
- Original Message - From: wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for DTMF encoder...or suggestions [snip] Well, I was leaving out the old carbon mics... ;c} I've got a couple of those... they were great for busting out car windows for extrications!!
