Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-09 Thread George Philips
Dear Glenn,

I would very much like to get a copy on CD.  Only wonder how I could
reimburse the expense of sending it to me.

I sent you a message direct to your address but did not receive a reply.
Hence this message.

73,

George, VU2GT.

- Original Message -
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding


 I can send you a copy on CD if you want.

 73
 Glenn

 At 02:20 AM 08/06/05, you wrote:
 Hi chaps!  Greetings from India.
 
 Can anyone tell me whether this handbook is available in hard copy?  The
 thought of downloading 812 pages is a bit daunting.
 
 73,
 
 George, VU2GT
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding
 
 
   Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding
for
   Electronic Equipments and Facilities
http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
 ,
   this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two
volumes
   about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers
grounding
 for
   safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
 read
   and eye opener.
  
   73
   Glenn
   WB4UIV
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-08 Thread Tony lelieveld
Glenn,

I went to the below mentioned link and it comes back with page not found.
If I delete the last part referring to the file name, I get into tscm.com
but there is no reference to the grounding article.  Is there perhaps
anything missing?

Tnx

Tony VE3DWI 


 Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
 Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
,
 this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes
 about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
for
 safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
read
 and eye opener.

 73
 Glenn
 WB4UIV






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tony,

You can download both volumes at this URL:

http://www.combatindex.com/mil_docs/html/hdbk/0100/MIL-HDBK-419.html

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Tony lelieveld wrote:

 Glenn,

 I went to the below mentioned link and it comes back with page not found.
 If I delete the last part referring to the file name, I get into tscm.com
 but there is no reference to the grounding article.  Is there perhaps
 anything missing?

 Tnx

 Tony VE3DWI

  Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
  Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
 ,
  this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes
  about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
 for
  safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
 read
  and eye opener.
 
  73
  Glenn
  WB4UIV


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-08 Thread John Place
Try this for info also:  http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_ptd_home.aspx


Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:

Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for 
Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF , 
this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes 
about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding for 
safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good read 
and eye opener.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



You should see a solution to all types of grounding issues here. At 11:23 
PM 08/01/05, you wrote:
  

Hello to the list and here is my question. The repeater site I am
working at has little dirt and lots of rock. I have to use a jackhammer
for the fence post holes, I can't hardly wait - ha ha. What are your
thoughts? What have you done, if faced with the same problem. If
this topic has been beat like a dead horse, let me know and I will go
dig thru the archives. Thank you.

Rod KC7VQR





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-08 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Here is a good link. That one did work just before I sent the link. Here is 
a link that is working:
http://combatindex.com/mil_docs/html/hdbk/0100/MIL-HDBK-419.html

73
Glenn
WB4UIV


At 09:51 PM 08/08/05, you wrote:
Glenn,

I went to the below mentioned link and it comes back with page not found.
If I delete the last part referring to the file name, I get into tscm.com
but there is no reference to the grounding article.  Is there perhaps
anything missing?

Tnx

Tony VE3DWI


  Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
  Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
,
  this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes
  about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
for
  safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
read
  and eye opener.
 
  73
  Glenn
  WB4UIV







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-07 Thread George Philips
My thanks to everyone who responded to the query I posted on the group.  Do
appreciate the help.

73,

George, VU2GT.


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 depending on your connect speed weather ADSL, ISDN, or whatever standards
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-06 Thread George Philips
Hi chaps!  Greetings from India.

Can anyone tell me whether this handbook is available in hard copy?  The
thought of downloading 812 pages is a bit daunting.

73,

George, VU2GT

- Original Message -
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding


 Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
 Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
,
 this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes
 about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
for
 safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
read
 and eye opener.

 73
 Glenn
 WB4UIV






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-06 Thread Mark A. Holman
depending on your connect speed weather ADSL, ISDN, or whatever standards 
your ISP has you need a good brooadband ISP but for some funky reason 56K is 
in most parts like you are lucky to get on-line.
- Original Message - 
From: George Philips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding


 Hi chaps!  Greetings from India.

 Can anyone tell me whether this handbook is available in hard copy?  The
 thought of downloading 812 pages is a bit daunting.

 73,

 George, VU2GT

 - Original Message -
 From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding


 Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
 Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
 ,
 this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two 
 volumes
 about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
 for
 safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
 read
 and eye opener.

 73
 Glenn
 WB4UIV







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-06 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
I can send you a copy on CD if you want.

73
Glenn

At 02:20 AM 08/06/05, you wrote:
Hi chaps!  Greetings from India.

Can anyone tell me whether this handbook is available in hard copy?  The
thought of downloading 812 pages is a bit daunting.

73,

George, VU2GT

- Original Message -
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding


  Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for
  Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF
,
  this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes
  about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding
for
  safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good
read
  and eye opener.
 
  73
  Glenn
  WB4UIV







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-04 Thread rrath
Thank you to all that replied. I will be using the salt method and will 
see how well that works. Thank you all again.

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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-01 Thread rrath
Hello to the list and here is my question. The repeater site I am 
working at has little dirt and lots of rock. I have to use a jackhammer 
for the fence post holes, I can't hardly wait - ha ha. What are your 
thoughts? What have you done, if faced with the same problem. If 
this topic has been beat like a dead horse, let me know and I will go 
dig thru the archives. Thank you.

Rod KC7VQR




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-01 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Down load a copy of MIL-HDBK-419 Grounding, Bonding, and Shielding for 
Electronic Equipments and Facilities http://tscm.com/MIL-HDBK-419A.PDF , 
this is the military handbook on grounding. It is large and in two volumes 
about 812 pages. One is theory, the other is practice. Covers grounding for 
safety, lightning, nuclear blast and most everything else. A very good read 
and eye opener.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



You should see a solution to all types of grounding issues here. At 11:23 
PM 08/01/05, you wrote:
Hello to the list and here is my question. The repeater site I am
working at has little dirt and lots of rock. I have to use a jackhammer
for the fence post holes, I can't hardly wait - ha ha. What are your
thoughts? What have you done, if faced with the same problem. If
this topic has been beat like a dead horse, let me know and I will go
dig thru the archives. Thank you.

Rod KC7VQR





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Grounding

2005-08-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Rod,

The electric utility industry is faced with the same problem when they
install towers for transmission lines.  The standard practice is to drill a
hole into the rock, perhaps ten feet or so, and drop a 4/0 stranded copper
wire down into it.  The hole is then filled with a slurry made from sodium
Bentonite clay.  This clay is also called Montmorillonite.  Its great
virtue is that it expands in the hole, essentially making the 4/0 wire much
larger in surface area and ensuring a low-resistance connection to Mother
Earth.  The enormous pressure developed as it expands causes the rock to
fracture and make more pathways for current.

This was exactly the way a good grounding system was created for a nearby
(at Vandenberg AFB) rocket launch pad that was constructed in an area that
is mostly granite rock a few feet below the surface.  The Bentonite can be
purchased in pellet form from any company that supplies the petroleum
drilling industry.  It's the stuff used to plug wells once they've been
pumped dry.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello to the list and here is my question. The repeater site I am
 working at has little dirt and lots of rock. I have to use a jackhammer
 for the fence post holes, I can't hardly wait - ha ha. What are your
 thoughts? What have you done, if faced with the same problem. If
 this topic has been beat like a dead horse, let me know and I will go
 dig thru the archives. Thank you.

 Rod KC7VQR


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