[Repeater-Builder] Service Monitor Question

2009-07-13 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi Everyone,
 I'm thinking about buying a used service monitor for various projects,  
and I've come across a few units that look good (from a price point) but 
I can't find any data on them.

1) Racal Dana 6113G Digital Radio Test Set Service Monitor
2) Cushman  CE-4000
3) HP 8924C
4) Ramsey COM3

I realize these are NOT the preferred field service units (I like IFR 
myself), but for now I just want something usable here and there. 
Opinions on them are welcome or pros/cons.

Thanks!
Tony


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitor Question

2009-07-13 Thread Chris Curtis
The 8924c is nice.  I have one of those.  The 8920b manual will be of help
with that unit.
I've owned a com3.  Was quick and easy but less featured, and less
expensive.

Chris
Kb0wlf

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 Hi Everyone,
  I'm thinking about buying a used service monitor for various projects,
 and I've come across a few units that look good (from a price point)
 but
 I can't find any data on them.
 
 1) Racal Dana 6113G Digital Radio Test Set Service Monitor
 2) Cushman  CE-4000
 3) HP 8924C
 4) Ramsey COM3
 
 I realize these are NOT the preferred field service units (I like IFR
 myself), but for now I just want something usable here and there.
 Opinions on them are welcome or pros/cons.
 
 Thanks!
 Tony
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitor Question

2009-07-13 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
I'm considering selling my IFR 1200S.  If anyone is interested, please email me 
direct - don at httpd.org.

If you're interested in a ball park selling price for a monitor of this 
caliber, google IFR 1200S and see what the going prices are these days.

The last time I tried this, I had a ham from New Mexico offer me $500.00 for 
the unit.

I also agree with Kevin, the Ramsey COM3 is *NOT* a true service monitor.  IMHO 
it *IS* a piece of junk that should have never been produced in the first place.

But I'm sure that there are people out there that will disagree . . . .

Don, KD9PT

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX 
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  Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitor Question




  I don't know about the first three units. I have always used Motorola 
  branded monitors. However, to call the Ramsey unit a service monitor 
  is an affront to every real service monitor that has ever existed. These 
  are and always will be mere toys, and I could not recommend one to 
  anyone under any circumstances. 73,

  Kevin, K9HX

  At 12:25 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote:



Hi Everyone,
I'm thinking about buying a used service monitor for various projects, 
and I've come across a few units that look good (from a price point) but 
I can't find any data on them.

1) Racal Dana 6113G Digital Radio Test Set Service Monitor
2) Cushman CE-4000
3) HP 8924C
4) Ramsey COM3

I realize these are NOT the preferred field service units (I like IFR 
myself), but for now I just want something usable here and there. 
Opinions on them are welcome or pros/cons.

Thanks!
Tony


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[Repeater-Builder] Service monitor question (was Re: Re: Cushman CE-4)

2004-12-16 Thread wb6ymh


 Although, I seem to remember Skip's Model 80 did just fine tuning 
up the 
 receiver in my Hammerlund Outercom xcvr back in the 70's.  Or 
was that the 
 60's?  Nevermind!  I learned how to tune a receiver that day, RF 
anyway.  
 Just learned about IF's last week.
 
 BTW, if I never said it back then, thanks Skip!
 
 td
 wb6mie

Wow another callsign from the good old days!  Good to see you! The 
model 80 sure did drift alot, but it was a lot easier getting a weak 
signal out of it than detuning my Heathkit Pawnee running into a 
dummy load which was the signal generator it replaced.

By the way I still have the model 80 ... and the Bird 43 we bought 
at the same time.  Amazingly enough I haven't had an urge to replace 
the Bird!

73's Skip WB6YMH







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service monitor question (was Re: Re: Cushman CE-4)

2004-12-16 Thread Neil McKie


  Hello all (Old timers week?) 

  My first signal generator (you might remember this Skip) was a 
 Heathkit TS-4A Television Sweep Alignment generator that I had 
 been using years earlier for TV repair. 

  The Marker Generator output was rather unstable but I used it 
 anyway. (ever known anything Heathkit that was stable except as 
 a door stop?) I used the third harmonic output for tuning receivers 
 on the 2 meter band.  I used the 9th harmonic output for tuning 440 
 MHz receivers. 

  In order to attempt to temperature stabilize the TS-4A, I plugged 
 it into a Sola line regulation transformer ... then placed the 
 TS-4A under a blanket for two days prior to use.  The variable 
 output attenuator loaded the oscillator as it was adjusted - so I 
 used that as the final tweak of the frequency output. 

  The attenuator I used was a Kay switchable attenuator with an HP 
 adjustable attenuator in series with that. 

  Those were fun days and I did learn a lot too. 

  It was later when I got a Motorola T-1034 Signal Generator to use. 

  The T-1034 was made by Measurments Corp. and, I believe, a 
 re-packaged FM-560. 

  These days, I have a Motorola T-1034 for occasional use - typical 
 is the UHF Micor. 

  Then I have a Cushman CE-5 and a CT Systems 5100S, both are service 
 monitors. 

  73, 

  Neil McKie - WA6KLA 


wb6ymh wrote:
 
  Although, I seem to remember Skip's Model 80 did just fine tuning
 up the
  receiver in my Hammerlund Outercom xcvr back in the 70's.  Or
 was that the
  60's?  Nevermind!  I learned how to tune a receiver that day, RF
 anyway.
  Just learned about IF's last week.
 
  BTW, if I never said it back then, thanks Skip!
 
  td
  wb6mie
 
 Wow another callsign from the good old days!  Good to see you! The
 model 80 sure did drift alot, but it was a lot easier getting a weak
 signal out of it than detuning my Heathkit Pawnee running into a
 dummy load which was the signal generator it replaced.
 
 By the way I still have the model 80 ... and the Bird 43 we bought
 at the same time.  Amazingly enough I haven't had an urge to replace
 the Bird!
 
 73's Skip WB6YMH
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Service monitor question (was Re: Re: Cushman CE-4)

2004-12-14 Thread tony dinkel

If you want to do duplex measurements here is what I would do.  Look for an 
IFR 1000S for your primary service monitor.  Then look for an IFR 500.  
Those things should be cheap and plentiful by now.  Use the 500 as the 
source and the 1000 as your calibrated receiver.  Acquire some directional 
(or non-directional) transmission line couplers off of ebay or 
rec.radio.swap.  Then measure away.

You could even get a simpler generator like an HP, dang it, forgot the 
number but I think it went up to 1200 mHz or so, or a wavetek that goes to 
512 mHz or something similar.  Yes, it is not automatic but as I recall, 
duplex testing with one service monitor was not all it was cracked up to be.

I would not suggest an HP-608 or a Model 80 unless you can afford to keep 
them powered up 24/7 in a climate controlled room.  Then theres the tube 
budget.

Although, I seem to remember Skip's Model 80 did just fine tuning up the 
receiver in my Hammerlund Outercom xcvr back in the 70's.  Or was that the 
60's?  Nevermind!  I learned how to tune a receiver that day, RF anyway.  
Just learned about IF's last week.

BTW, if I never said it back then, thanks Skip!

td
wb6mie



From: wb6ymh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Service monitor question (was Re: Re: Cushman CE-4)


The CE-5 has 1 Khz steps and does not do full duplex.  There are
various options on the IFRs some have tracking generators.

I've done a bit of googling for IFRs and Cushmans, but I guess they
are too old, I found very little information other than old for sale
ads.  (And one guy that had a picture of himself and his CE-50 along
with his other family album pictures !)

There seem to be quite a few Motorola service monitors on ebay, but
from what I remember they had a reputation for being unreliable.

I'll bet the CE-5 drifts a little less than the model 80 it's
replacing (grin).

73's Skip WB6YMH






 
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