Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world... The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 16450/16550 UART is more important Doug KD8B At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' mailto:atec77%40hotmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup? Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in DOS mode, never a DOS window). Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it. Dennis On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world... The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 16450/16550 UART is more important Doug KD8B At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' mailto:atec77%40hotmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
There is no DOS startup internal to XP, however you can make a DOS boot floppy from the Format A: floppy screen. The trick is you need to partition the hard drive into 2 partitions 1 fat32 and pretty much needs to be less than 1024 mb and the rest as NTFS for XP to use...Copy all the DOS programs to the fat32 partition, and when you boot from floppy with the boot disk you created in XP foramtting tab, the DOS fat32 partition will be visible as C : to the floppy command and interpretter... go to C:xx as you would normally and it will run fine The only way to have DOS startup from XP is to have a DOS disk overlaid with XP in fat32 mode.. not NTFS, and that is far from a stock install... The entire process I listed above can be done on a new XP install by short installing the hard drive by 1 meg or so, and reserve that to convert to a fat 32 partition later...then let XP install the rest of the drive as it normally would.. after that you can go into disk manger and format the remaining extra disk space as fat32 and put whatever DOS stuff you want on it then a boot floppy will get you to it... It sounds a lot more complicated than it is... Doug At 01:07 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote: Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup? Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in DOS mode, never a DOS window). Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it. Dennis On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade mailto:kd8b%40thebades.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world... The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 16450/16550 UART is more important Doug KD8B At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' mailto:atec77%40hotmail.commailto:atec77%40hotmail.comatec77@ hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.netmailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.netmailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.commailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.commailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
I meant short installing by 1gb... 1024 mb... sorryor whatever you can spare from the XP drive for DOS programs and that depends on how many you have.. or wish to collect :-) Doug At 03:31 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote: There is no DOS startup internal to XP, however you can make a DOS boot floppy from the Format A: floppy screen. The trick is you need to partition the hard drive into 2 partitions 1 fat32 and pretty much needs to be less than 1024 mb and the rest as NTFS for XP to use...Copy all the DOS programs to the fat32 partition, and when you boot from floppy with the boot disk you created in XP foramtting tab, the DOS fat32 partition will be visible as C : to the floppy command and interpretter... go to C:xx as you would normally and it will run fine The only way to have DOS startup from XP is to have a DOS disk overlaid with XP in fat32 mode.. not NTFS, and that is far from a stock install... The entire process I listed above can be done on a new XP install by short installing the hard drive by 1 meg or so, and reserve that to convert to a fat 32 partition later...then let XP install the rest of the drive as it normally would.. after that you can go into disk manger and format the remaining extra disk space as fat32 and put whatever DOS stuff you want on it then a boot floppy will get you to it... It sounds a lot more complicated than it is... Doug At 01:07 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote: Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup? Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in DOS mode, never a DOS window). Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it. Dennis On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade mailto:kd8b%40thebades.netmailto:kd8b%40thebades.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] des.net wrote: CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world... The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 16450/16550 UART is more important Doug KD8B At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' mailto:atec77%40hotmail.commailto:atec77%40hotmail.comatec77@ hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.netmailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.netmailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.netmailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.netmailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.commailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.commailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.commailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.commailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
I would think a disk manager with dual boot dos /xp or what ever as required but you may need to set the bios correctly for the slow comms on the ports used which is what I do here for programming things in my area of expertise although I just boot to dos from xp ( which is almost a simulation) and run things there . To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:07:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Thank you all for the advice. However, I have had no success with using XP (or finding a DOS startup option..are you sure you're not confusing XP with WIn98SE?). Maybe you have a dual boot setup? Remember I need to use Moto RSS for the MT-1000 and Spectra. The only machine I have had luck with is a P1 processor at 166 mhz running WIn98SE. I've tried faster laptops and desktops...P2s and P3's with both XP and WIn98 with no luck at all. (Win98 is always started in DOS mode, never a DOS window). Thank you again for all the replies...I appreciate it. Dennis On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF-27's are probably as easy or easier to find and maybe cheaper on Ebay... We have been using them for DOS radio RSS programming for a long time... and generally the batteries cost more than the laptop...many are 300/350 mhz processors, some 500-550 mhz... I have one (PIII 500) set up for DOS and XP, I use it for all RSS we operate up to and including M/A-Com RPM... I use a boot floppy to get to DOS and have all the DOS RSS in a fat32 partition. It has a real serial port and a touch screen to boot... I think I paid $90.00 for it plus shipping...and it has a win2k COAas well...Probably a good choice for 99.9% of what needs to be programmed in the radio world... The HT600/P200 sw I think is the quirkiest about CPU, the rest seem pretty flexible.. in the PII and PIII sub 600 mhz areaa real 16450/16550 UART is more important Doug KD8B At 06:51 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' mailto:atec77%40hotmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: mailto:forsale-swap%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola%40mailman.qth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:motorola-Radios%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mailto:sacramento.cyclist%40gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA _ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290_t=764581033_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07_m=EXT
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
Try Rick with Comcell Communications, 928-279-6251. On 6/11/08, Dennis Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Does it NEED to be a toughbook? I got nice results with DOS programs and the HP 1000CX (a trimmed-down version of the HP200LX). Why not try anything that runs DOS?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
At 02:53 PM 6/12/2008, Barry C' wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? ---I use a new generation Athlon based laptop (3800) which I boot directly to DOS and have no problem at all with RSS for the MSF5000 at least. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming
yes, hence the ..or equivalent... part. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the machine just need a suitable port and speed ? , the toughbook isn't a must ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming Good evening everyone, Subject says it all. Thought I had one lined up but the seller flaked. Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my MT-1000 and Spectras. Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608. Thanks! Dennis -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA at CarPoint.com.au It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 -- Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
