[SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius/GM300 - Email found in subject

2004-10-07 Thread wn1b8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Scott,
>  After you pulled and bypassed the final, what was the lowest 
power you
> could get out of it while still being stable? I'm thinking about 
doing
> the same to a VHF maxtrac to use as an exciter for a cont duty PA, 
but
> it only needs about 400mw to drive it to full output. Thanks.
> 
> Kevin
> K2KMB 
> 

Hi Kevin,

That is a very good question.  I didn't try adjusting the PO as it 
fell right about where I wanted it.  I received the service manual 
and schematic for it yesterday and had just a few minutes to look it 
over last night.  It would appear that the 1-10 watt version is 
basically what I have made, the 45 watt PA up through the driver, 
which is now the final. Same transistor but a few capacitor value 
changes. If this is the case, Motorola rates this as a 1 to 10 watt 
radio.  I would think you should be able to lower it to 1 watt. You 
may have to go back a stage to get your 500 mW.

I seem to recall someone else's post that indicated thay had used 
the input to the PA module which gave them 700 mW.  You might want 
to look for this post.

73,

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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RE: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius/GM300 - Email found in subject

2004-10-06 Thread Kevin Bednar

Scott,
 After you pulled and bypassed the final, what was the lowest power you
could get out of it while still being stable? I'm thinking about doing
the same to a VHF maxtrac to use as an exciter for a cont duty PA, but
it only needs about 400mw to drive it to full output. Thanks.

Kevin
K2KMB 

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--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steaven Rogers, W4YI" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone here used a Radius or GM300 to make a repeater?  I have
a 
> pair of Radius (M120) UHF mobiles wired up and working, but I
would like 
> to add a third one to use as a link to a second repeater. Can
anyone 
> give any input on how to go about hooking up the third radio to
make it 
> work properly?.  This will be used for temporary installations
only.  
> Aside from the heat issue are there any other pitfalls or concerns
I 
> should look at for.  These will be run on LOW power when being
used to 
> help with the heat.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steaven, W4YI


Hi Steaven,

I have been playing around with the GM300s for a couple of weeks now
with plans to use them as UHF link radios.  In my humble opinion, they
are a nice little radio and should do a good job.  This, of course, will
be proven or disproven in due time. Here are some of my
observations:

The heat issue can be a problem.  Turning the power output down only
adds to the heat problem.  Instead, I took Kevin's (and others') advice
and pulled and bypassed the final.  The radio does about 3.5 watts this
way.  The output is very clean (I looked -70 dB and didn't detect a
thing) and stable.  I observed this into load with a
1:1 SWR as well as a 2.5:1 SWR. Aside from the (still) moderate heat
produced, there were no detectable problems during a 35 minute keydown
period.  To overcome the heat issue, I simply added a computer processor
fan to the back of the radio pair that triggers on from the receiver's
COR (or tone squelch) and shuts off one to two minutes after the carrier
or tone drops. (See Kevin's web site for the circuitry) 

My radios didn't display any significant drop in power until I tuned
down around the low end of 433 MHz.

The 16 pin connector has descriminator output, mic input, and PTT
available on it making interfacing quite easy.

The one drawback I have detected is the built in Tx delay. When added to
the inherrent delay from an aftermarket tone decoder, which I am using
on the VHF receiver married to this transmitter, the overall delay
borders on the undesirable.  I have a GM300 service manual and schematic
en route, but without it I haven't determined a work-around.  I suspect
this delay is intentional and can be altered through minor component or
circuitry changes.

I hope this helps.  Good luck.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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