RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

2008-02-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 09:32 PM 02/24/08, you wrote:
Collin,

Simply replace your existing harness that has 12 center-to-center lengths
with an identical harness that has 14 center-to-center lengths.  The two
end pieces, the ones that connect to the receiver and transmitter, can be
any length that fits.  Please use RG-214/U double-shielded cable, in lieu of
single-shielded RG-213/U cable.  You won't regret it!

Since you mention eight pieces of coax, I wonder if perhaps you have the
earlier version of the Q-202G duplexer.  All of the Q-202G duplexers that I
have converted had four cavities, and the cable harness comprised five tee
connectors and two male N plugs for a total of six pieces of cable.

Don't get wrapped up with wavelengths, because Sinclair wasn't that
concerned about it; the high-split (150-174 MHz) harness had 12 spacing,
and the low-split (138-150 MHz) harness had 14 spacing.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

And a fast test is to add a right angle adapter to each end of the existing
cable pieces.  The average right angle adapter adds about an inch, so
adding one to each end will lengthen the cable to 14 inches, plus or minus...

Now, I wouldn't use adapters for a long term solution, but it works 
for testing.

Mike WA6ILQ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

2008-02-25 Thread Jim Brown
Collin, it depends on what vintage Q-202G you have.  I have four duplexers that 
have the rexolite rod caps to adjust the notch frequency on each cavity, and I 
brought them down into the ham band by increasing the length of the jumper 
cable that connects directly to the cavity from 10.5 inches to 12.5 inches.

I also came up with a manual and Eric Lemmon scanned it into a PDF file and 
posted the manual on the repeater-builder site.

http://www.repeater-builder.com/sinclair/q202-208-218-tuning.pdf

The manual explains how to tune the duplexer to a new frequency.  What you have 
to keep in mind is that the first piece of cable connecting to each cavity is 
part of the notch circuit and that piece of cable in conjunction with the 
variable setting of the dialectric rod determines the frequency of the notch.  
Also keep in mind that this circuit produces a notch above and below the center 
frequency the cavity is tuned to, and the high and low sides of the duplexer 
have identical circuitry.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Dear Friends,
 I am working on retuning a Sinclair Q-202G duplexer to 144.810/145.410. 
 The question I have is about the new cables I will need. First will I 
 need all new cables? What I mean is there are actually eight pieces in 
 all. These need to be 1/4 wave each? Also when measuring these I know 
 the measurement is from the center of the T connector. When measuring 
 to a connection on a stub where is the measurement taken from? I have 
 some RG-213 cables which measure 12 from T center to T center. 
 Anyone that can help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks, Collin






   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

2008-02-24 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:38 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote:

Dear Friends,
I am working on retuning a Sinclair Q-202G duplexer to 144.810/145.410.
The question I have is about the new cables I will need. First will I
need all new cables?

---It depends on where the duplexer was originally. I run a Q-202G 
(six cavity) and didn't need to replace a thing when it was retuned 
down from the 150 region

Ken

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

2008-02-24 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
The cavities will probably go, the harness may not.  What is the frequency
on the label ?  Unless someone has replaced the harness that is a good
indicator as to which one you have (there were two).

Mike WA6ILQ

At 04:38 PM 02/24/08, you wrote:
Dear Friends,
I am working on retuning a Sinclair Q-202G duplexer to 144.810/145.410.
The question I have is about the new cables I will need. First will I
need all new cables? What I mean is there are actually eight pieces in
all. These need to be 1/4 wave each? Also when measuring these I know
the measurement is from the center of the T connector. When measuring
to a connection on a stub where is the measurement taken from? I have
some RG-213 cables which measure 12 from T center to T center.
Anyone that can help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Collin

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

2008-02-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
Collin,

Simply replace your existing harness that has 12 center-to-center lengths
with an identical harness that has 14 center-to-center lengths.  The two
end pieces, the ones that connect to the receiver and transmitter, can be
any length that fits.  Please use RG-214/U double-shielded cable, in lieu of
single-shielded RG-213/U cable.  You won't regret it!

Since you mention eight pieces of coax, I wonder if perhaps you have the
earlier version of the Q-202G duplexer.  All of the Q-202G duplexers that I
have converted had four cavities, and the cable harness comprised five tee
connectors and two male N plugs for a total of six pieces of cable.

Don't get wrapped up with wavelengths, because Sinclair wasn't that
concerned about it; the high-split (150-174 MHz) harness had 12 spacing,
and the low-split (138-150 MHz) harness had 14 spacing.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help with Sinclair Q-202G

Dear Friends,
I am working on retuning a Sinclair Q-202G duplexer to 144.810/145.410. 
The question I have is about the new cables I will need. First will I 
need all new cables? What I mean is there are actually eight pieces in 
all. These need to be 1/4 wave each? Also when measuring these I know 
the measurement is from the center of the T connector. When measuring 
to a connection on a stub where is the measurement taken from? I have 
some RG-213 cables which measure 12 from T center to T center. 
Anyone that can help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Collin