Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Nate Duehr]

On 4/1/2010 9:57 PM, George Henry wrote:
> I suppose I should clarify: I don't do D-STAR, either. Moral objection to
> their use of a proprietary codec.

You're going to be a while on that soap box.  CODECs are almost 
literally the only way to make any money in the audio streaming, video 
streaming, and related technology worlds these days... mixed with 
Patents, you won't see any high-quality free CODECs that can properly 
encode voice at 4800 bps any time soon.

DVSI has ALL of that market locked up until someone hires a pile of 
PhD's in math and goes after them.  And even then, they'd have to make a 
significant impact on bandwidth utilized or voice quality over either 
AMBE/AMBE2, or IMBE... to have a chance of dislodging the first player 
to market... the only player to be written into multiple standards (P25, 
D-STAR, even the TDMA-based things from Kenwood/Icom... all using DVSI 
chipsets.)

Brilliant of them really... heavily patent-encumbered CODEC, super-high 
price on using the CODEC in software, sell a $20 (in low-quantity, 
slightly cheaper in high-quanity) chipset, in a market as small as 2-way 
radio... they're making a bloody killing.  I'd love to know what the 
development costs of the CODECs were... to see just how lucrative their 
lock on the market(s) is.

But anyway... good luck finding a commercial product that doesn't use 
their chipset anytime soon.  The next CODEC chipset maker is going to be 
an "also-ran" forever, unless their mathematicians and algorithms are 
uber-brilliant.

Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Kris Kirby]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Kevin Custer wrote:
> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB. 
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> 
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

If it front-panel programmable (FPP)?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[George Henry]

I suppose I should clarify:  I don't do D-STAR, either.  Moral objection to 
their use of a proprietary codec.

And the only Icom I own is my 910H satellite rig...


George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor


>
> It's Motorola, not Icom   :)
>
>
> George Henry wrote:
>>
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>> I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)
>>
>> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
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> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[John J. Riddell]

I had to laugh when it said you need a model 15 TTY to program it...
I used to fix those things many years ago !

"Klunk - klunk - klunk".   :-))

73 John VE3AMZ



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To: ; ; 

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:48 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor


> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
>
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
>
> Kevin Custer
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Joe]

We got a nibble, who wants to set the hook?

On 4/1/2010 2:57 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
> what's the name of this radio guys
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Joe]

You'll be in line after me.  I was even smarter and ordered mine 
February 29th.

Joe

On 4/1/2010 11:45 AM, DCFluX wrote:
>
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> I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.
>
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> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Jed Barton]

what's the name of this radio guys 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

  

I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE). You never know
when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!

Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were: 1-800-328-7448 or
1-800-382-5633... 

Mark - N9WYS

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[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

Kevin Custer wrote:
> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html 
> <http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html>
> 
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
> 
> Kevin Custer
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Chris Curtis]

I prefer matt helm's approach to super spying.

Kb0wlf

> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
> buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:44 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
> 
> I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE).  You
> never
> know when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!
> 
> Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were:  1-800-328-7448 or
> 1-800-382-5633...
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
> 
> Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are
> they
> available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact
> internal
>   sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?
> 
> Scott
> 
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
> 
> 
> Kevin Custer wrote:
> > Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> > http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> >
> > Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
> >
> > Kevin Custer
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Mark]

I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE).  You never
know when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!

Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were:  1-800-328-7448 or
1-800-382-5633... 

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they 
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal 
  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Kevin Custer wrote:
> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> 
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
> 
> Kevin Custer
> 
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Yahoo! Groups Links



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh]

Its "Molotora", April Fool, not "Motorola" :-}

"It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license."

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Repeater System: 
Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Rowlett  II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett III: 147.390 + 85.4
KC5OZH-R EchoLink Node: 350616
K5FER-L EchoLink Node: 394575
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 808 ARO-Equipment 
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
From: AA8K73 GMail 
Date: Thu, April 01, 2010 11:43 am
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com


It's Motorola, not Icom :)


George Henry wrote:
> 
> 
> I see it doesn't do D-STAR :-)
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[AA8K73 GMail]

It's Motorola, not Icom   :)


George Henry wrote:
>  
> 
> I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[George Henry]

I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)


George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


>
>From: Kevin Custer 
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; repea...@yahoogroups.com; 
>repeat...@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 6:48:57 AM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
>
>  
>Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
>http://www.repeater -builder. com/molotora/ gontor/gontor. html
>
>Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
>
>Kevin Custer
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[La Rue Communications]

March 32??? :) As opposed to "Smarch" - that time in between March and April?


John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
  - Original Message - 
  From: DCFluX 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor



  I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[DCFluX]

I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[James Cicirello]

APRIL 1ST PRICE? If we could afford one we would be FOOL not to buy one.

JIM   KA2AJH

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Joe  wrote:

>
>
> Excellent radio and specs! This should put GE, RCA, Aerotron, all all
> the other big names out of business. For once the Motorola bean
> counters got their act together and supported this great product.
>
> 73, Joe, k1ike
>
> > Kevin Custer wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> >> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> >> 
> >>
> >> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
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-- 
Jim Cicirello
181 Stevens Street
Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
(585)593-4655

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Tony Faiola]

This was a typical U.S. Government specification.  Were there any  
bids??  Tony, K3WX



On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jed Barton wrote:

> dare i ask the price of one of these radios.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:47 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Joe]

Excellent radio and specs!  This should put GE, RCA, Aerotron, all all 
the other big names out of business.  For once the Motorola bean 
counters got their act together and supported this great product.

73, Joe, k1ike
> Kevin Custer wrote:
>
>> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
>> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
>> 
>>
>> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
>>
>> Kevin Custer
>>
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Jed Barton]

dare i ask the price of one of these radios. 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

  

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

Kevin Custer wrote:
> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html 
> <http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html>
> 
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
> 
> Kevin Custer
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Milt]

Order from your local Molotora dealer at 00:01 on April 1 only.  Orders will 
be filled by donkey cart.  If you receive your order within 1 year you will 
be required to pay additional fees.

Milt
N3LTQ
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From: "Scott Zimmerman" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor


> Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
> available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
>  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
>
>
> Kevin Custer wrote:
>> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
>> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
>>
>> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
>>
>> Kevin Custer
>>
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>>
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Scott Zimmerman]

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they 
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal 
  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Kevin Custer wrote:
> Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
> 
> Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
> 
> Kevin Custer
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

[Captainlance]

Hmm..But can it core an apple???
Happy April 1st..
Lance/N2HBA
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  From: Kevin Custer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; repea...@yahoogroups.com ; 
repeat...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:48 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor



  Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

  Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

  Kevin Custer