Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-16 Thread Dave VanHorn

At 11:37 AM 4/15/2005, DCFluX wrote:
>Here is the schematic for a Compressor/Expandor/Limiter. I got busy
>with other high priority projects, so is any one daring enough to
>write the software?


Project has begun.
Did you do PCBs for these, or should I?






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-15 Thread Neil McKie


  When I get the 'others' uncovered, I will let 
 you know what they are ... 

  Neil 

skipp025 wrote:
> 
> >  Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >   All I have here is Motorola, GE, RCA and a
> > couple of others.
> 
> I've got an RCA Series 1000 repeater still on
> the air and it just wont die. Says a lot about
> how well it was made,
> 
> The RCA Series 500 and 700/750 radios are also
> great link radios.
> 
> I used to dig out the large RCA VHF Mobiles from
> the dumpster at the Motorhead Service Station.
> (along with Master Pro's and other trade in's)
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> They look like GE Master II's in a way...
> 
> Someday I'll do something with those radios...
> 
> cheers,
> skipp
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-15 Thread Dave VanHorn

At 11:37 AM 4/15/2005, DCFluX wrote:
>Here is the schematic for a Compressor/Expandor/Limiter. I got busy
>with other high priority projects, so is any one daring enough to
>write the software?

Oh, I see, it's a dpot. Nevermind..

Ok, this looks relatively easy.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-15 Thread Dave VanHorn

At 11:37 AM 4/15/2005, DCFluX wrote:
>Here is the schematic for a Compressor/Expandor/Limiter. I got busy
>with other high priority projects, so is any one daring enough to
>write the software?

Interesting, I'm an AVR assembler guy.
:)

I guess you could call me daring.

Offhand, what's the ADC spec?





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-15 Thread Russ Stafford


I my self own 26 Maggiore repeaters that are on the air every day and I nor 
my users have any problems. They just work on and on!
But they are the newer ones' not the old build for Clegg or Midlands.
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH.
Trustee, W3PS.

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From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals


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>  I don't have any problems with Maggiore equipment ... but then
> again, I don't own any either.
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>  All I have here is Motorola, GE, RCA and a couple of others.
>
>  Neil McKie - WA6KLA
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> pm3349714 wrote:
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>> Well Mr. Barbour I see you are at it again. Since you don't have the
>> guts to reply to my emails or my postings on the list I have no choice
>> but to defend myself on this list. If you read the postings including
>> your own you will see if the equipment is set up properly then there is
>> no problem. I think I and everyone else on this list knows that you
>> don't like our equipment by now. I also have noticed how you belittle
>> people on this list often. I am pretty sure that the repeater you are
>> talking about is pre 1982 which makes it one of the ones that was made
>> with either Clegg boards or midland. All equipment is now manufactured
>> by us and we stand by it 100% and even back it with a 2 year warranty.
>> As a matter of fact there is a Motorola repeater in my area thats
>> modulation is spiking up to 10khz. I guess it just matters on who sets
>> it up. If you where working on one of our machines and didn't know how
>> to fix it or adjust it maybe you should have called us and we would
>> have been glad to assist you. We have many satisfied customers that do
>> not have any of the problems you speak of.
>>
>> Paul Maggiore AA3VI V.P.
>> Maggiore Electronic Lab
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-14 Thread Neil McKie


  I don't have any problems with Maggiore equipment ... but then 
 again, I don't own any either. 

  All I have here is Motorola, GE, RCA and a couple of others. 

  Neil McKie - WA6KLA 


pm3349714 wrote:
> 
> Well Mr. Barbour I see you are at it again. Since you don't have the
> guts to reply to my emails or my postings on the list I have no choice
> but to defend myself on this list. If you read the postings including
> your own you will see if the equipment is set up properly then there is
> no problem. I think I and everyone else on this list knows that you
> don't like our equipment by now. I also have noticed how you belittle
> people on this list often. I am pretty sure that the repeater you are
> talking about is pre 1982 which makes it one of the ones that was made
> with either Clegg boards or midland. All equipment is now manufactured
> by us and we stand by it 100% and even back it with a 2 year warranty.
> As a matter of fact there is a Motorola repeater in my area thats
> modulation is spiking up to 10khz. I guess it just matters on who sets
> it up. If you where working on one of our machines and didn't know how
> to fix it or adjust it maybe you should have called us and we would
> have been glad to assist you. We have many satisfied customers that do
> not have any of the problems you speak of.
> 
> Paul Maggiore AA3VI V.P.
> Maggiore Electronic Lab
>





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-14 Thread Bob Dengler

Actually, the biggest problem I have with users' deviation on my system is 
not enough of it; none of my users deviate more than 5 kHz.  I have one 
user that likes to stay several inches away from the mic & talk softly, 
yielding about 1 kHz deviation on average.  For those users I've been 
contemplating just the opposite: a circuit that closes the squelch on 
inadequately-deviated users.  This should be easier to implement since the 
noise from noisy stations will be detected as adequate deviation & keep COS 
valid.  COS would only be interrupted if insufficient audio was detected on 
the discriminator for several seconds.

Essentially this would be nothing more than VOX ANDed with COS.

Bob NO6B






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-13 Thread Bob Dengler

At 4/13/2005 05:54 PM, you wrote:

>Nope, I'm reading the peaks on my service monitor.  I have a soft spoken
>voice for the most part, almost have to yell to get to 4 Khz, and most
>general users hits around 4 to 4.5, but the few tops out over 6 sometimes
>6.5 Khz.

Sounds like your TX audio input is underdriven & your deviation control is 
set too high.  Turn up the audio output from your controller until 
everyone's peaks are at the same level (will "sound' distorted & overdriven 
on your output TX).  Then turn the deviation control in the TX down so that 
the deviation is 5 kHz peak.  Once this is done, turn down your 
controller's TX audio out until it "sounds" good to you.  This will end up 
being anywhere from 1:1 deviation in/out ratio  to maybe a bit more to 
compensate for slightly underdeviated users.

Bob NO6B






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-13 Thread Dave VanHorn

At 07:54 PM 4/13/2005, Mathew Quaife wrote:

>Nope, I'm reading the peaks on my service monitor.  I have a soft spoken
>voice for the most part, almost have to yell to get to 4 Khz, and most
>general users hits around 4 to 4.5, but the few tops out over 6 sometimes
>6.5 Khz.

Could it be that the audio isn't flat, and at low or high 
frequencies, you have more deviation than the tone you use to set your levels?






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals

2005-04-13 Thread Mathew Quaife

Nope, I'm reading the peaks on my service monitor.  I have a soft spoken
voice for the most part, almost have to yell to get to 4 Khz, and most
general users hits around 4 to 4.5, but the few tops out over 6 sometimes
6.5 Khz.

Mathew


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From: Laryn Lohman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:52 PM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Audio limiting on incoming signals



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "w9mwq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I have set the deviation level of the repeater to 4.5 Khz, which for 
> most users is excellent, however I have a few users whom no matter 
> what radio they use, alwys clips well over 6 Khz wide.


Matt, is the 6kc a measured figure?  Maybe it just seems like 6kc
because they modulate your system with a higher AVERAGE deviation.
Therefore they will sound louder, but with the same peak deviation of
4.5kc.  What is your repeater transmitter?

Laryn K8TVZ







 
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