RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Anyone else hear if this is true? -M From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=104168/grpspId=1705063108/msgId= 91828/stime=1243960041/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3 __ NOD32 4123 (20090602) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Comprod are former employes of Sinclair,they start thir own company many years ago. i have been using their antenna,2 dipole,for almost 10 years now,in a salt environnement near the st-laurence river and it never fail. the quality is there and price too,at least in CND prices. i also have an SRL210A4 Sinclair on top of a tower at 250 feet for 30 years ,,it never fail too but she is beginning to show some fatigue now ,, i would never use fiberglass antenna for repeater,static,grounding,,quality,i would prefer find used dipole ,rebuilt it and put it back online then using these but this is my personnal choice from my experiences.it is like putting a capacitor at 125 feets high and transmit 73/s all gervais,ve2ckn From: Eric Grabowski Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? I came across this company that lists dipole arrays for 220 MHz on page 38 of their online catalog. I have no idea what the prices are, but thought I would pass it along since I haven't seen it mentioned before on this list. http://www.astronwireless.com/ Eric KH6CQ --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:20 AM I haven't bought any of their antennas for ham projects yet. I've purchased one of their VHF dipole arrays for a commercial job, but I wasn't on-site when it was delivered, unpacked, or installed, so I didn't get to examine it. Most of what I've heard has been positive. They share a lot of similarity with Sinclair's products; I heard (maybe even here) that some of their engineers, or maybe company founders, were ex-Sinclair employees. They seem to be much more popular in Canada then down here in the states. I have some of Comprod's filtering products and have been happy with those. I've been very happy with Sinclair's dipole arrays, which is what I was leaning toward buying, but the price is getting a little out of hand. The Decibel dipole arrays were a good value, too bad they quit making them for the UHF ham split. These antennas will all be top-mounted, and I refuse to use fiberglass omnis for such installations, so my choices for dipole arrays are fairly limited. If Telewave made dipole arrays that included the mast and internal harness I'd consider them too, but they don't. TX-RX's dipole arrays (made by RFI) are another option, but I haven't yet found anybody using them, and I'm not sure I want to be the $2000 guinea pig. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John Dewitt Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:29 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning the COMPROD line of antennas. I was at one of their seminars and was very impressed with the construction and workmanship. Thank You. John Installer/Tech Midstate Communications 1st Lieut, S.T.V.F.D. KB3DOL www.midstatecomm. com http://www.midstate comm.com http://stvfd. homestead. com/ http://stvfd. homestead. com/ www.repeater. net/n2hlt http://www.repeater .net/n2hlt --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci. com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:05 AM I was about to order some Sinclair dipole arrays for upcoming projects (SD318 series 8-bay UHF). Last time I ordered one, probably 5 or 6 years ago, I thought it was around $1400. This time, all of my usual vendors are giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? I'm still waiting for a callback from the factory. I may go with Comprod instead - about $400 less each. --- Jeff WN3A No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Don't you remember?? He promised you CHANGE... That is to the RIGHT of the decimal. ;-p Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo What didn't go way up? The number of digits to the left of the decimal point in my checking account balance hasn't gone up. I'm still waiting for all of that stimulus package trickle-down money that our new president promised me. (snip) --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning the COMPROD line of antennas. I was at one of their seminars and was very impressed with the construction and workmanship. Thank You. John Installer/Tech Midstate Communications 1st Lieut, S.T.V.F.D. KB3DOL www.midstatecomm.com http://stvfd.homestead.com/ www.repeater.net/n2hlt --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:05 AM I was about to order some Sinclair dipole arrays for upcoming projects (SD318 series 8-bay UHF). Last time I ordered one, probably 5 or 6 years ago, I thought it was around $1400. This time, all of my usual vendors are giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? I'm still waiting for a callback from the factory. I may go with Comprod instead - about $400 less each. --- Jeff WN3A
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
I haven't bought any of their antennas for ham projects yet. I've purchased one of their VHF dipole arrays for a commercial job, but I wasn't on-site when it was delivered, unpacked, or installed, so I didn't get to examine it. Most of what I've heard has been positive. They share a lot of similarity with Sinclair's products; I heard (maybe even here) that some of their engineers, or maybe company founders, were ex-Sinclair employees. They seem to be much more popular in Canada then down here in the states. I have some of Comprod's filtering products and have been happy with those. I've been very happy with Sinclair's dipole arrays, which is what I was leaning toward buying, but the price is getting a little out of hand. The Decibel dipole arrays were a good value, too bad they quit making them for the UHF ham split. These antennas will all be top-mounted, and I refuse to use fiberglass omnis for such installations, so my choices for dipole arrays are fairly limited. If Telewave made dipole arrays that included the mast and internal harness I'd consider them too, but they don't. TX-RX's dipole arrays (made by RFI) are another option, but I haven't yet found anybody using them, and I'm not sure I want to be the $2000 guinea pig. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dewitt Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:29 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning the COMPROD line of antennas. I was at one of their seminars and was very impressed with the construction and workmanship. Thank You. John Installer/Tech Midstate Communications 1st Lieut, S.T.V.F.D. KB3DOL www.midstatecomm.com http://www.midstatecomm.com http://stvfd.homestead.com/ http://stvfd.homestead.com/ www.repeater.net/n2hlt http://www.repeater.net/n2hlt --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:05 AM I was about to order some Sinclair dipole arrays for upcoming projects (SD318 series 8-bay UHF). Last time I ordered one, probably 5 or 6 years ago, I thought it was around $1400. This time, all of my usual vendors are giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? I'm still waiting for a callback from the factory. I may go with Comprod instead - about $400 less each. --- Jeff WN3A No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
What didn't go way up? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? I was about to order some Sinclair dipole arrays for upcoming projects (SD318 series 8-bay UHF). Last time I ordered one, probably 5 or 6 years ago, I thought it was around $1400. This time, all of my usual vendors are giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
What didn't go way up? The number of digits to the left of the decimal point in my checking account balance hasn't gone up. I'm still waiting for all of that stimulus package trickle-down money that our new president promised me. Jumping in price by 50% over the course of a few years seems kinda steep me. I can't believe that either labor nor materials jumped by that much over that timeframe. Maybe it's the drop in the value of a US dollar? I think US Dollar to Candadian Dollar conversion rate is close to 1:1 now. --- Jeff WN3A
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Don't know if I would put them that low! They are (if I remember right) a spin-off from TX/RX (just look at their duplexers/combiners etc.). James Ken Arck wrote: Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
I think for a while Cushcraft was using a different name for some of their commercial products, and the name was something like Com Prod or Communication Products or something similiar (I think I saw it used in a Tessco catalog), but I'm quite certain that the current Laird/Cushcraft products are nothing like the Comprod headquartered in Quebec. I had a couple of Cushcraft's commercial dipole arrays a while back. They were built a lot like Decibel dipole arrays, including the triangle-shaped molded tees in the harness. If you looked at them from afar, you would think they were Decibels until you got up close. The dipoles had a an aluminum sleeve (for lack of a better term) on the side of the element where the center conductor of the coax attached, making the element thicker along that quarter-wave segment. I don't know if their current antennas are made the same way. In any event, they were nothing like Comprod's antennas. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Some of Comprod's cavity filter products look a lot like TX-RX, but not all. They make a line of duplexers and filters that are square cavities, more like EMR's. TX-RX does make some square cavities; I have some square TX-RX cavities that are high-power models for 900 MHz paging. I have a couple of Comprod UHF duplexers - they don't look anything like TX-RX. Go here and look at the page that has model #66-40-44 on it. The Comprod duplexer I have are built like this, but the exterior of the ones I have aren't gold alodine, they're painted with grey epoxy paint, about the same shade Wacom used to use before they switched to black a few years before the company went 10-7: http://www.comprodcom.com/en/filters/duplexers/pdf/duplexer.pdf Comprod's dipole arrays look lot like Sinclair's. Go figure. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Delancy Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Don't know if I would put them that low! They are (if I remember right) a spin-off from TX/RX (just look at their duplexers/combiners etc.). James Ken Arck wrote: Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
As I said, last I heard :-) That being said, I am not knocking Cushcraft - I've used their antennas in everything from repeater service to EME use and never had an real complaints (I especially liked their 4 dipole arrays for repeater service). Ken At 09:42 AM 6/2/2009, Jeff DePolo wrote: I think for a while Cushcraft was using a different name for some of their commercial products, and the name was something like Com Prod or Communication Products or something similiar (I think I saw it used in a Tessco catalog), but I'm quite certain that the current Laird/Cushcraft products are nothing like the Comprod headquartered in Quebec. I had a couple of Cushcraft's commercial dipole arrays a while back. They were built a lot like Decibel dipole arrays, including the triangle-shaped molded tees in the harness. If you looked at them from afar, you would think they were Decibels until you got up close. The dipoles had a an aluminum sleeve (for lack of a better term) on the side of the element where the center conductor of the coax attached, making the element thicker along that quarter-wave segment. I don't know if their current antennas are made the same way. In any event, they were nothing like Comprod's antennas. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:26 PM To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just a note.. Last I heard, Comprod stuff is actually Cushcraft stuff Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.nethttp://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00 -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
About 1 year ago price of metals about doubled, some trippled like lead now they are almost back where they were so it will take some time before the raw material cost factor catches up to the lower price of the raw metals if it ever will. Then there was the fuel surcharge for trucking the raw materials and the finished product. tom [Original Message] From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/2/2009 12:36:06 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? What didn't go way up? The number of digits to the left of the decimal point in my checking account balance hasn't gone up. I'm still waiting for all of that stimulus package trickle-down money that our new president promised me. Jumping in price by 50% over the course of a few years seems kinda steep me. I can't believe that either labor nor materials jumped by that much over that timeframe. Maybe it's the drop in the value of a US dollar? I think US Dollar to Candadian Dollar conversion rate is close to 1:1 now. --- Jeff WN3A Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:05 -0400, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? Yeah Jeff, I think they when commodities prices (metal) went higher, and the Canadian dollar started falling. This was one of the reasons we decided to experiment with 2-bay antennas at our not as important sites... amongst other things, like them being a heck of a lot easier to deal with on the tower... etc. Also watch out for something we ran into... find out if your distributor has them IN-STOCK. We had to wait for the factory to make them, ship them to the distributor, then the distributor shipped them here, complete with running them over with a fork-lift, going through the insurance claim (their insurance, not ours), and waiting for two more to be made... That was last fall... -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Don't overlook Comprod. Very similar antennas, and I think they're cheaper. We are on low-band, and they are re-designing the phasing harnesses and feeders so that we can run high power (aka 2kw) instead of their normal 300w rating. I was very impressed with them. When we called Sinclair and asked for such a beast, they just blew us off. Comprod got an engineer on the phone with us and the new low-band, high-power bays and phasing harnesses are in the works for 2 and 4 bay arrays. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:05 -0400, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.comjd0%40broadsci.com wrote: giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? Yeah Jeff, I think they when commodities prices (metal) went higher, and the Canadian dollar started falling. This was one of the reasons we decided to experiment with 2-bay antennas at our not as important sites... amongst other things, like them being a heck of a lot easier to deal with on the tower... etc. Also watch out for something we ran into... find out if your distributor has them IN-STOCK. We had to wait for the factory to make them, ship them to the distributor, then the distributor shipped them here, complete with running them over with a fork-lift, going through the insurance claim (their insurance, not ours), and waiting for two more to be made... That was last fall... -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com nate%40natetech.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
At 6/2/2009 09:35, you wrote: What didn't go way up? The number of digits to the left of the decimal point in my checking account balance hasn't gone up. I'm still waiting for all of that stimulus package trickle-down money that our new president promised me. Jumping in price by 50% over the course of a few years seems kinda steep me. I can't believe that either labor nor materials jumped by that much over that timeframe. Heck, even the cheap ham antennas aren't so cheap anymore: current AES price for a Comet GP9 is $220. I think that's about double what it was when it first became available. Maybe it's the drop in the value of a US dollar? I think US Dollar to Candadian Dollar conversion rate is close to 1:1 now. The main reason why I stopped using West Crystal. They didn't raise their prices, but they got too expensive. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
I came across this company that lists dipole arrays for 220 MHz on page 38 of their online catalog. I have no idea what the prices are, but thought I would pass it along since I haven't seen it mentioned before on this list. http://www.astronwireless.com/ Eric KH6CQ --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:20 AM I haven't bought any of their antennas for ham projects yet. I've purchased one of their VHF dipole arrays for a commercial job, but I wasn't on-site when it was delivered, unpacked, or installed, so I didn't get to examine it. Most of what I've heard has been positive. They share a lot of similarity with Sinclair's products; I heard (maybe even here) that some of their engineers, or maybe company founders, were ex-Sinclair employees. They seem to be much more popular in Canada then down here in the states. I have some of Comprod's filtering products and have been happy with those. I've been very happy with Sinclair's dipole arrays, which is what I was leaning toward buying, but the price is getting a little out of hand. The Decibel dipole arrays were a good value, too bad they quit making them for the UHF ham split. These antennas will all be top-mounted, and I refuse to use fiberglass omnis for such installations, so my choices for dipole arrays are fairly limited. If Telewave made dipole arrays that included the mast and internal harness I'd consider them too, but they don't. TX-RX's dipole arrays (made by RFI) are another option, but I haven't yet found anybody using them, and I'm not sure I want to be the $2000 guinea pig. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John Dewitt Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:29 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? Just wondering what your thoughts are concerning the COMPROD line of antennas. I was at one of their seminars and was very impressed with the construction and workmanship. Thank You. John Installer/Tech Midstate Communications 1st Lieut, S.T.V.F.D. KB3DOL www.midstatecomm. com http://www.midstate comm.com http://stvfd. homestead. com/ http://stvfd. homestead. com/ www.repeater. net/n2hlt http://www.repeater .net/n2hlt --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci. com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump? To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:05 AM I was about to order some Sinclair dipole arrays for upcoming projects (SD318 series 8-bay UHF). Last time I ordered one, probably 5 or 6 years ago, I thought it was around $1400. This time, all of my usual vendors are giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? I'm still waiting for a callback from the factory. I may go with Comprod instead - about $400 less each. --- Jeff WN3A No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00
