Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Tuning HELP

2008-07-27 Thread Wesley Bazell
Hi Michael.

Would Recommend Ron Wright N9EE in Tampa Who owns an 2 meter Repeater in 
Tampa(very Knowligable.

Wesley AB8KD
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  ·I wonder if anyone in the TAMPA area or even anywhere on the 
west coast of Florida, could help with tuning a 220 duplexer?  I'd like a real 
tune up rather than some backyard methods that were suggested !  All kiddin' 
aside I suppose you pay for what you get and I'd like to know they were done 
right.  Any help would be appreciated.

  ·  -Mike, K4CVL  (941) 376-6453





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Tuning HELP

2008-07-27 Thread Michael Ryan
I have already spoken to Ron. He was not able to help or offer
suggestion(s).  Thanks for the idea though.  - Mike

 

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Hi Michael.

Would Recommend Ron Wright N9EE in Tampa Who owns an 2 meter Repeater in
Tampa(very Knowligable.

Wesley AB8KD 
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Tuning HELP

. I wonder if anyone in the TAMPA area or even anywhere on the west coast of
Florida, could help with tuning a 220 duplexer? I'd like a real tune up
rather than some backyard methods that were suggested ! All kiddin' aside I
suppose you pay for what you get and I'd like to know they were done right.
Any help would be appreciated. 

. -Mike, K4CVL (941) 376-6453

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-16 Thread DCFluX

That would be the best, but you have avalibility and cost issues.

On 4/16/05, Per Molund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Or maybe Invar alloy for maximum temperature stability?
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-16 Thread Joe

At 07:23 PM 4/15/2005 -0700, you wrote:
The problem with the stability is that most of these were constructed
using a Galvinised steel rod to set the tuning correct?

I solved that problem by putting some slop into the connection between 
the rod and the plunger.  It's kind of hard to explain, but I put two nuts 
on the threaded rod above the plunger, and two nuts below the plunger.  I 
then locked each set of nuts so that the plunger had about 1/16 of play on 
the threaded rod.  This made tuning a little more difficult.  If you past 
either the notch or the peak, you had to back up and take out the slack 
before the tuning went the other way.  Once I had it tuned, I turned the 
threaded rod one-half the distance that it took to take out the slack.  At 
this point, the top nuts and bottom nuts are not touching the threaded 
rod.  Therefore, there was no thermal pull on the plunger when the 
galvanized rod changed length.

By now, you are probably wondering why I went through all the 
trouble!  First, 22oMhz duplexers were hard to come by in the 
1980's.  Second, I'm a very stubborn person and I was going to figure out a 
way to keep them stable.

73, Joe, K1ike






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-15 Thread Gary Hoff

Not in Indiana, but a comment.  I Used one of those Duplexers years ago.  Be 
careful where you locate it.  Extremely sensitive to temperature variations. 
We had it on a mountaintop and retired it after the first winter.
Gary - K7NEY
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 I think we located the old repeater and duplexers that used to be
 here in our little one horse town in northern indiana but I am
 sure that after sitting in storage ,being moved from place to place
 and just years of neglect they will probably need to be cleaned and
 retuned
 is there anyone out there in northern indiana who could help me with
 this task ? the tuning part that is  (I can clean them )
 I do not have service monitors or spectrum analyzers all i have is a
 wattmeter and  an old signal generator (HP tube type heavier than
 most new cars)
 these duplexers are a homemade 2 meter duplexer from  an old qst
 artical by John j. Bilodeau w1gan.
 they are made from 4 inch copper pipe
 i have the equipment to tune them like the artical says with simple
 equipment but if it could be done better I would opt for that method
 they had worked very well for years and I would like to see the
 repeater up and running again

 anyone who could help please e-mail me
 thanks
 Paul (n9fco)











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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-15 Thread Dave VanHorn



anyone who could help please e-mail me
thanks
Paul (n9fco)

How far are you from Muncie?

I've got the gear.  





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-15 Thread Mathew Quaife

I'm not an expert, but would be willing to help you tune them, I just got
mine tuned, once I figured out what I was doing wrong, well not wrong, just
did not know about the third set of cans changing things.  Always willing to
help.

Mathew
W9MWQ


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I think we located the old repeater and duplexers that used to be 
here in our little one horse town in northern indiana but I am 
sure that after sitting in storage ,being moved from place to place 
and just years of neglect they will probably need to be cleaned and 
retuned 
is there anyone out there in northern indiana who could help me with 
this task ? the tuning part that is  (I can clean them )
I do not have service monitors or spectrum analyzers all i have is a 
wattmeter and  an old signal generator (HP tube type heavier than 
most new cars)
these duplexers are a homemade 2 meter duplexer from  an old qst 
artical by John j. Bilodeau w1gan. 
they are made from 4 inch copper pipe 
i have the equipment to tune them like the artical says with simple 
equipment but if it could be done better I would opt for that method
they had worked very well for years and I would like to see the 
repeater up and running again

anyone who could help please e-mail me 
thanks 
Paul (n9fco)










 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-15 Thread Joe

I had a set of sewer pipe duplexers like what you are describing for 
220Mhz years ago.  I built a wood box, put a small light bulb and a 
thermostat inside and set it to about 90 degrees.  These kept them fairly 
stable year-round.

73, Joe, k1ike

At 07:44 AM 4/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
Not in Indiana, but a comment.  I Used one of those Duplexers years ago.  Be
careful where you locate it.  Extremely sensitive to temperature variations.
We had it on a mountaintop and retired it after the first winter.
Gary - K7NEY






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexer tuning - help

2005-04-15 Thread DCFluX

The problem with the stability is that most of these were constructed
using a Galvinised steel rod to set the tuning correct?  Try a
replacing it with a more similar metal to copper like brass or copper
threaded rod if you can find it. or a plastic rod that has good
tempreture charecteristics.  What would be ideal are some threaded
bushings with set screws and then the rod doesn't need to be threaded.

On 4/15/05, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I had a set of sewer pipe duplexers like what you are describing for
 220Mhz years ago.  I built a wood box, put a small light bulb and a
 thermostat inside and set it to about 90 degrees.  These kept them fairly
 stable year-round.
 
 73, Joe, k1ike
 
 At 07:44 AM 4/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
 Not in Indiana, but a comment.  I Used one of those Duplexers years ago.  Be
 careful where you locate it.  Extremely sensitive to temperature variations.
 We had it on a mountaintop and retired it after the first winter.
 Gary - K7NEY
 
 
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