Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
The Channel 2 Color Ant is for all of 6 Meter. The BW is for the FM portion only. Merry Christmas To All! Fred W5VAY - Original Message - From: Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant More importantly to this group, how do I interface it to my repeater ?? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
Was that on a GE TV? Thanks Fred, Merry Christmas to all / Happy New Year too. Neil - WA6KLA FHS wrote: The Channel 2 Color Ant is for all of 6 Meter. The BW is for the FM portion only. Merry Christmas To All! Fred W5VAY - Original Message - From: Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant More importantly to this group, how do I interface it to my repeater ?? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
mch wrote: You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. The only difference is that color requires more signal then bw, and digital requires more signal then color. (Just like stereo FM requires more signal then mono.) Hence the fact, if one looked, that color antennas were just higher gain, and digital antennas are more gain yet. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
How do you interface an antenna to your repeater? There should be an antenna port on your repeater or duplexer t which you connect the antenna. The same issues relate to repeaters, BTW - there are no antennas for FM vs AM vs SSB vs APRS vs packet vs Etc., Etc. Etc. They are all the SAME and only vary in the fact that they are usually a more narrow bandwidth, but that's a function of frequency coverage, not mode used. Joe M. Daron J. Wilson wrote: More importantly to this group, how do I interface it to my repeater ?? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
Wouldn't that be equivallent to 'ghosting' on analog TV? Wouldn't directional antennas be better for that reason? Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yes, that is true, to a point. The 8VSB modulation used by DTV is prone to multipath interference. This is easily seen with a spectrum analyzer when turning an antenna...multipath will show up as a notch (or multiple notches) in what is supposed to be a flat noise-like energy spectrum form the DTV transmitter. Depending on where the notch is in the spectrum and its depth, the digital decoder and loose lock on the signal with the result being the dreaded blue TV screen. Thus, the best DTV performance is from antennas that are more directional which reject any off-axis multipath signals better. Multipath is why indoor antenna reception of DTV is so touchy. However, the later generations of tuner chipsets are getting much better at multipath compensation. Hap Griffin VP-Engineering SCETV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
But isn't that relative to your distance (or path) from the station you want to receive? The lower gain antennas would work just fine if the signal is strong enough. What you said is effectively (in FM terms): Simplex antennas need higher gain to make up for the weaker signals over repeaters. So why aren't there repeater antennas and simplex antennas? (aside from the quality aspects) Joe M. Jim B. wrote: The only difference is that color requires more signal then bw, and digital requires more signal then color. (Just like stereo FM requires more signal then mono.) Hence the fact, if one looked, that color antennas were just higher gain, and digital antennas are more gain yet. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
- Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant mch wrote: You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. The only difference is that color requires more signal then bw, and digital requires more signal then color. (Just like stereo FM requires more signal then mono.) Hence the fact, if one looked, that color antennas were just higher gain, and digital antennas are more gain yet. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Actually, it requires considerably less signal than analog TV (color or BW). The coding gains of digital allow it to operate much closer to the noise floor than analog. If you look at the power assignments of television broadcast stations, the DTV power to replicate coverage is in nearly all cases much less, unless the analog station is on VHF and the paired DTV station is on UHF. For instance, I am the CE for an eleven station network...most of our megewatt UHF analog stations are coverage matched very well by their 50 KW digital counterparts. The rule of thumb is that average digital power is 12 dB less than peak analog power. Hap Griffin WZ4O Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
Yes...I believe that's what I said. Directional is better for DTV. Hap Griffin WZ4O - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant Wouldn't that be equivallent to 'ghosting' on analog TV? Wouldn't directional antennas be better for that reason? Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yes, that is true, to a point. The 8VSB modulation used by DTV is prone to multipath interference. This is easily seen with a spectrum analyzer when turning an antenna...multipath will show up as a notch (or multiple notches) in what is supposed to be a flat noise-like energy spectrum form the DTV transmitter. Depending on where the notch is in the spectrum and its depth, the digital decoder and loose lock on the signal with the result being the dreaded blue TV screen. Thus, the best DTV performance is from antennas that are more directional which reject any off-axis multipath signals better. Multipath is why indoor antenna reception of DTV is so touchy. However, the later generations of tuner chipsets are getting much better at multipath compensation. Hap Griffin VP-Engineering SCETV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
Hap Griffin wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant mch wrote: You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. The only difference is that color requires more signal then bw, and digital requires more signal then color. (Just like stereo FM requires more signal then mono.) Hence the fact, if one looked, that color antennas were just higher gain, and digital antennas are more gain yet. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Actually, it requires considerably less signal than analog TV (color or BW). The coding gains of digital allow it to operate much closer to the noise floor than analog. If you look at the power assignments of television broadcast stations, the DTV power to replicate coverage is in nearly all cases much less, unless the analog station is on VHF and the paired DTV station is on UHF. For instance, I am the CE for an eleven station network...most of our megewatt UHF analog stations are coverage matched very well by their 50 KW digital counterparts. The rule of thumb is that average digital power is 12 dB less than peak analog power. Hap Griffin WZ4O Not gonna argue-experience has shown the DTV's need a much better installation on the recieve end-across the board (VHF or UHF). And not just directionality either. -eos- -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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This makes sense. I am the Chief Engineer of an FM station that recently converted to IBOC (thus having BOTH analog digital). We use the SAME antenna for both our analog digital transmissions notice that the coverage of analog compared to digital is very similar. In FM IBOC, the digital signal is 20 DB below the analog (or 1% of the analog). -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:41:09 PM CST From: Hap Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, it requires considerably less signal than analog TV (color or BW). The coding gains of digital allow it to operate much closer to the noise floor than analog. If you look at the power assignments of television broadcast stations, the DTV power to replicate coverage is in nearly all cases much less, unless the analog station is on VHF and the paired DTV station is on UHF. For instance, I am the CE for an eleven station network...most of our megewatt UHF analog stations are coverage matched very well by their 50 KW digital counterparts. The rule of thumb is that average digital power is 12 dB less than peak analog power. Hap Griffin WZ4O Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
- Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant Actually, it requires considerably less signal than analog TV (color or BW). The coding gains of digital allow it to operate much closer to the noise floor than analog. If you look at the power assignments of television broadcast stations, the DTV power to replicate coverage is in nearly all cases much less, unless the analog station is on VHF and the paired DTV station is on UHF. For instance, I am the CE for an eleven station network...most of our megewatt UHF analog stations are coverage matched very well by their 50 KW digital counterparts. The rule of thumb is that average digital power is 12 dB less than peak analog power. Hap Griffin WZ4O Not gonna argue-experience has shown the DTV's need a much better installation on the recieve end-across the board (VHF or UHF). And not just directionality either. -eos- -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Agreed...a crappy installation with mis-terminations on the dividers, etc. providing echos within the distribution system can wreck DTV reception. But in a proper installation, much less power is usually required. I can't believe it's been now almost 5 years to the month since putting my network's first DTV station on the air (the first one in South Carolina and the first to be transcoded onto digital cable...also the first to beta test the TCI wideband slot antenna). My eleventh and last goes on air in January. Hap Griffin WZ4O Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
And my reply was 'isn't directional better for ANYTHING?' (not just DTV) Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: Yes...I believe that's what I said. Directional is better for DTV. Hap Griffin WZ4O - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant Wouldn't that be equivallent to 'ghosting' on analog TV? Wouldn't directional antennas be better for that reason? Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yes, that is true, to a point. The 8VSB modulation used by DTV is prone to multipath interference. This is easily seen with a spectrum analyzer when turning an antenna...multipath will show up as a notch (or multiple notches) in what is supposed to be a flat noise-like energy spectrum form the DTV transmitter. Depending on where the notch is in the spectrum and its depth, the digital decoder and loose lock on the signal with the result being the dreaded blue TV screen. Thus, the best DTV performance is from antennas that are more directional which reject any off-axis multipath signals better. Multipath is why indoor antenna reception of DTV is so touchy. However, the later generations of tuner chipsets are getting much better at multipath compensation. Hap Griffin VP-Engineering SCETV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
- Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant And my reply was 'isn't directional better for ANYTHING?' (not just DTV) Joe M. OK...I see what you meant now...yes, I agree. Hap Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
just look at each TV Station Channel assignment I'll give the Grand Rapids, MI approximates so bear with me, WWMT Ch. 2 Digital, Ch. 3 Analog WOOD Ch 7 Digital, Ch. 8 Analog, CH. 41 Analog ( its call is WOTV, and simulcasts ) this one is also simlucast LPTV analog and studio cotrols another LPTV called Urban TV owned by LIN Television WZZM TV 12 Digital, CH. 13 Analog WXMI Ch. 17 Analog, and Ch. 19 Digital ( FOX network ) you may have to plug in Broadcasting try http://www.broadcast.net also Society of Broadcast Engineers http://www.sbe.org that has lots of links and keep you surfin til the cows come home :-) if You want into Broadcast Career lots of jobs and BTW Join SBE ! Merry Christmas Toby wrote: hi just got me a hdtv at mal mart with hdtv tuner build inside. i get the best tv picture i every had. here .. at what freqency in the uhf band is the hdtv send on... cant seem to find it anywhere on the internet...??? i useing a homebuild uhf ant with a pre amp.. would like to build the ant for for the hdtv frequency..? toby...n9fdf YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. begin:vcard fn:Mark A. Holman n:Holman;Mark A. org:Harvest Assembly of God email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Webmaster, IT Student note;quoted-printable:IT, Member IEEE, Life Member ARRL, Assoc. Member SBE, CRO=0D=0A= Welcome to the Snowy stuff of Michigan=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.ab8ru.org version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
Google the TV station call signs in your area and their web sites will tell you the DTV channel number. Chuck Toby wrote: hi just got me a hdtv at mal mart with hdtv tuner build inside. i get the best tv picture i every had. here .. at what freqency in the uhf band is the hdtv send on... cant seem to find it anywhere on the internet...??? i useing a homebuild uhf ant with a pre amp.. would like to build the ant for for the hdtv frequency..? toby...n9fdf YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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HDTV stations use the same channels as analog TV stations. If you have a channel 2, for example, and they put up a HDTV station, it may be on TV channel 19. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant ????
At 07:48 PM 12/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. ---Seems to me I remember the color antennas were being pushed as wide bandwidth. Which of course you needed for color TV! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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had some here in Florida would sell the silver non plated ant as BW the gold ones were for color so when you went in the area you know who had the color TV. good sales campaign - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant At 07:48 PM 12/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. ---Seems to me I remember the color antennas were being pushed as wide bandwidth. Which of course you needed for color TV! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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At 09:07 PM 12/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: had some here in Florida would sell the silver non plated ant as BW the gold ones were for color so when you went in the area you know who had the color TV. good sales campaign ---Back in the early 70's, I worked at an electronics store that also did quite a bit with higher end consumer audio. I remember the fun we used to have convincing customers that should use the bare copper conductor in their speaker wire for the positive connection and the tinned conductor for the negative because one was better for positive electrons and the other was better for negative ones. We never did have anyone question us Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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More importantly to this group, how do I interface it to my repeater ?? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hdtv radio shack ant You know, this subject (mail subject line) reminds me of the stories I was told about them coming out with antennas for *COLOR* TV that were interpreted to be different from BW TV antennas. Supposedly, for color TV you needed a Color TV antenna. BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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BW TV, Color TV, HDTV... they ALL use the same frequencies and the same antennas would work equally well. ---Seems to me I remember the color antennas were being pushed as wide bandwidth. Which of course you needed for color TV! There are always things like digital ready, I made sure that was on the pair of headphones for my portable CD player. Or those gold plated connectors on the PC motherboard where the bracket AROUND the pins is gold colored...those go really fast. 73 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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There are always things like digital ready, I made sure that was on the pair of headphones for my portable CD player. This is a good one .. how is audio 'digital' its not a 1 or a 0 ... its analog ... just another way to raise the price tag on the same old stuff .. ummm I would just love to have my repeater 'digital ready' .. think I could sell the old radios with the new tag ? Rick Szajkowski VA3 RZS Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR Node Owners of IRLP Node 2120 147.300 + VA3 OME 224.420 - VA3 OME Part of The Omeme Amateur Radio Club Peterborough Ont. Canada Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
