Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals
One chance in very many here - What freq crystals are you needing? I have a set for a new Kendecom that I sold and kept the crystals as they were wrong for the new buyer - these are International - Dave / NØATH You can have them for the postage if I can find them and they would work for you - 146.325R / 146.925T 73 - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals I might be looking to recrystal a Kendecom Mark 4. Is ICM still the best place to go for xtals? What's a good set running these days? Mike WM4B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals
Mike, ICM is still selling crystals. they make an excellent xtal for $19.95 for I think 2 weeks. I use BOMAR which are also good, but ICM is still one of the best. 73, ron, n9ee/r - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com I might be looking to recrystal a Kendecom Mark 4. Is ICM still the best place to go for xtals? What s a good set running these days? Mike WM4B
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just bought some from ICM for a Marti transmitter 20 bucks and about 2 weeks delivery - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals I might be looking to recrystal a Kendecom Mark 4. Is ICM still the best place to go for xtals? What's a good set running these days? Mike WM4B
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Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Thanks! Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Mike, ICM is still selling crystals. they make an excellent xtal for $19.95 for I think 2 weeks. I use BOMAR which are also good, but ICM is still one of the best. 73, ron, n9ee/r - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals I might be looking to recrystal a Kendecom Mark 4. Is ICM still the best place to go for xtals? What ’ s a good set running these days? Mike WM4B image001.jpgimage002.jpg
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Mike, To let you know that is $19.95 each xtal, $40 + ship for a pair. Bomar has $50 min. All you need is the radio type, freq, where to ship and method of payment. They accept credit cards. Good luck in making your change. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Thanks! Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Mike, ICM is still selling crystals. they make an excellent xtal for $19.95 for I think 2 weeks. I use BOMAR which are also good, but ICM is still one of the best. 73, ron, n9ee/r - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com I might be looking to recrystal a Kendecom Mark 4. Is ICM still the best place to go for xtals? What s a good set running these days? mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Mike mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com WM4B mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Ralph, Before you make a decision on your supplier, please read the following article: www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/temperature-compensation.html Unless you have a testing laboratory Another respectable option: do the following: http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/no6b-crystal-heater.html Then, your result will be even better where temp stability is concerned. *If one of the elements are FM for transmit, then I'd send them to the crystal house. Kevin Custer
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Joe, I don't see a connection between how long the order takes and whether or not the crystals are flawless. Knowing that a properly-made and -compensated crystal takes time, I'd shy away from a company that has a very short turnaround. Perhaps the longer turnaround time with orders at ICM is due to ICM getting a lot of new business from disgruntled customers of other crystal suppliers. If you ever get the opportunity to tour the Bomar crystal plant, do so, and take plenty of pictures and keep careful notes. Follow a particular crystal order through the process from order-taking to shipment. Then, do the same thing at ICM. Write an article about your findings, and draw some conclusions. I am quite certain it will be interesting! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc I just went (actually, AM GOING) through an order with ICM. Boy have they changed in the last 10 years. Orders take much longer than they used to. I went with ICM because this particular order I wanted to be flawless. I should have stuck with Bomar. Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: I use Bomar these days for crystals for the ham bands. I have had good luck installing them myself and re-adjusting them in a year or so back to the right frequency. I recently worked on a GE Delta radio that had been crystaled using CUMEX and found the receive crystal had drifted over 2 kHz in the several years it had been in service. It was so far off it would not adust back to the original frequency until I ran the adjustment slug on down through the coil form and added another slug on top of it. Now with two slugs in the coil, it wound up back on frequency. I don't know if it will continue to drift, or if it has settled down, but for now it is working just fine. I used Marden for crystals until I got into a beef with them on a receive frequency and gave up after sending an operating crystal back to them a couple of times and telling them what frequency it operated on, and them sending it back and telling me what frequency they thought it operated on. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:w7hsg%40comcast.net wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Radio recommendations ?? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:32:48 + On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better radio for repeater service since all solid state transmitters are very inefficient when run below their designed output. A 30 watt Mitrek running at 15 watts will probably last forever, but a 50 watt Mitrek running at 20 watts gets way too hot for my tastes. It would probably be ok with a fan, but I really didn't want a fan for numerous reasons. Well the radio is only specified to run a certain percentage in transmit anyway, but at this point, you can probably get a dump-truck load of Mitreks for the asking. That will give you enough radios to keep the repeater running until Doomsday. All you need is a few channel elements, and you can skip using lightning protection altogether. If a Mitrek falls in the forest, does it make a noise? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
My last few crystal orders went to West Crystal (www.westcrystal.com) in BC, Canada. In the 80's and early 90's I ordered from Bomar exclusively, and then started running into problems and switched to ICM. I was very happy with ICM for the next ten years or so, but their prices started to get pretty steep so I decided to try West Crystal on the recommendation of Dave KA9FUR and several others on this list and I've been pleased thus far. --- Jeff WN3A -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc Joe, I don't see a connection between how long the order takes and whether or not the crystals are flawless. Knowing that a properly-made and -compensated crystal takes time, I'd shy away from a company that has a very short turnaround. Perhaps the longer turnaround time with orders at ICM is due to ICM getting a lot of new business from disgruntled customers of other crystal suppliers. If you ever get the opportunity to tour the Bomar crystal plant, do so, and take plenty of pictures and keep careful notes. Follow a particular crystal order through the process from order-taking to shipment. Then, do the same thing at ICM. Write an article about your findings, and draw some conclusions. I am quite certain it will be interesting! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc I just went (actually, AM GOING) through an order with ICM. Boy have they changed in the last 10 years. Orders take much longer than they used to. I went with ICM because this particular order I wanted to be flawless. I should have stuck with Bomar. Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: I use Bomar these days for crystals for the ham bands. I have had good luck installing them myself and re-adjusting them in a year or so back to the right frequency. I recently worked on a GE Delta radio that had been crystaled using CUMEX and found the receive crystal had drifted over 2 kHz in the several years it had been in service. It was so far off it would not adust back to the original frequency until I ran the adjustment slug on down through the coil form and added another slug on top of it. Now with two slugs in the coil, it wound up back on frequency. I don't know if it will continue to drift, or if it has settled down, but for now it is working just fine. I used Marden for crystals until I got into a beef with them on a receive frequency and gave up after sending an operating crystal back to them a couple of times and telling them what frequency it operated on, and them sending it back and telling me what frequency they thought it operated on. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:w7hsg%40comcast.net mailto:w7hsg%40comcast.net wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:kris%40catonic.us mailto:kris%40catonic.us To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Radio recommendations ?? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:32:48 + On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better radio for repeater service since all solid state transmitters are very inefficient when run below their designed output. A 30 watt Mitrek running at 15 watts will probably last forever, but a 50 watt Mitrek running at 20 watts gets way too hot for my tastes. It would probably be ok with a fan, but I really didn't want a fan for numerous reasons. Well the radio is only specified to run a certain percentage in transmit anyway, but at this point, you can probably get a dump-truck load of Mitreks for the asking. That will give you enough radios to keep the repeater running until Doomsday. All you need is a few channel elements, and you can skip using lightning protection altogether. If a Mitrek falls in the forest, does it make a noise? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Fine. If they have to take longer to provide the product, don't tell me delivery will be 4 weeks than take longer. The apology letter I received from them said nothing about a backlog of orders. As for the flawless part, I did not directly relate that to the time. I said I went with them due to their reputation. That is the reason why I didn't order from Bomar. In all the orders from Bomar, they always took how long they said. While I've never had a problem with them, I wanted to take out the extra 'insurance' of purchasing from ICM. I wasn't aware of the fact that the delivery time would suffer as much as it has. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, I don't see a connection between how long the order takes and whether or not the crystals are flawless. Knowing that a properly-made and -compensated crystal takes time, I'd shy away from a company that has a very short turnaround.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Just out of curiosity, how long were you quotes, and how long did it actually take? At 10:30 AM 11/04/07, you wrote: Fine. If they have to take longer to provide the product, don't tell me delivery will be 4 weeks than take longer. The apology letter I received from them said nothing about a backlog of orders. As for the flawless part, I did not directly relate that to the time. I said I went with them due to their reputation. That is the reason why I didn't order from Bomar. In all the orders from Bomar, they always took how long they said. While I've never had a problem with them, I wanted to take out the extra 'insurance' of purchasing from ICM. I wasn't aware of the fact that the delivery time would suffer as much as it has. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, I don't see a connection between how long the order takes and whether or not the crystals are flawless. Knowing that a properly-made and -compensated crystal takes time, I'd shy away from a company that has a very short turnaround. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Repeater Builder uses BOMAR for the most part, ICM for the rest. http://www.bomarcrystal.com/ Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Ralph, Check out BOMAR crystals. You might be surprised at their prices. Also, I believe that Repeater-Builder, the company, uses them. Check in with Kevin and Scott to get all of the particulars. Go here: http://www.bomarcrystal.com/home3.htm Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG Yahoo! Groups Links !DSPAM:1016,472d1a3b914631450673570!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Ralph, Before you make a decision on your supplier, please read the following article: www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/temperature-compensation.html Unless you have a testing laboratory equal to that found in a commercial crystal house, I suspect that your good luck is more likely blind luck, and does not justify putting new crystals in previously-compensated channel elements. I and many others believe that the $30 extra spent for a full compensation is money well spent. Otherwise, your crystal that you think is doing just fine may have deficiencies that you don't know about, and don't have the equipment to detect. I'm not just talking about rare cases here- a local 220 repeater was notorious for drifting rapidly off frequency during extended net operation and distorted audio. It was a converted Mastr II that the owner recrystaled himself. When confronted with the complaint that the frequency drifted, he was in denial because he said he bought the crystal from ICM! Once the crystal was sent back to ICM with the ICOM and fully compensated for $30, the repeater worked perfectly. Not only was the drifting problem solved, but the audio clarity was profoundly improved. It seems that the ICOM was originally compensated for a factory-made crystal that had different characteristics from the new crystal made by ICM. Since ICM was not given the ICOM in advance, ICM had no way to test or modify the ICOM to work properly with the new crystal. In my book, it makes sense to always get the full compensation of a new crystal to the ICOM or channel element. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
Eric, Thanks for the reply Lab is not equal to testing lab but is OK. Cumex were cheap crystals and managed to compensate ok. Bomar which everyone seems to recommend makes much better crystals. I have a small oven and an ERI counter good to .1 hz at 440. I can cycle and adjust within reason. Ralph -- Original message -- From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ralph, Before you make a decision on your supplier, please read the following article: www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/temperature-compensation.html Unless you have a testing laboratory equal to that found in a commercial crystal house, I suspect that your good luck is more likely blind luck, and does not justify putting new crystals in previously-compensated channel elements. I and many others believe that the $30 extra spent for a full compensation is money well spent. Otherwise, your crystal that you think is doing just fine may have deficiencies that you don't know about, and don't have the equipment to detect. I'm not just talking about rare cases here- a local 220 repeater was notorious for drifting rapidly off frequency during extended net operation and distorted audio. It was a converted Mastr II that the owner recrystaled himself. When confronted with the complaint that the frequency drifted, he was in denial because he said he bought the crystal from ICM! Once the crystal was sent back to ICM with the ICOM and fully compensated for $30, the repeater worked perfectly. Not only was the drifting problem solved, but the audio clarity was profoundly improved. It seems that the ICOM was originally compensated for a factory-made crystal that had different characteristics from the new crystal made by ICM. Since ICM was not given the ICOM in advance, ICM had no way to test or modify the ICOM to work properly with the new crystal. In my book, it makes sense to always get the full compensation of a new crystal to the ICOM or channel element. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG ---BeginMessage--- Ralph, Before you make a decision on your supplier, please read the following article: www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/temperature-compensation.html Unless you have a testing laboratory equal to that found in a commercial crystal house, I suspect that your good luck is more likely blind luck, and does not justify putting new crystals in previously-compensated channel elements. I and many others believe that the $30 extra spent for a full compensation is money well spent. Otherwise, your crystal that you think is doing just fine may have deficiencies that you don't know about, and don't have the equipment to detect. I'm not just talking about rare cases here- a local 220 repeater was notorious for drifting rapidly off frequency during extended net operation and distorted audio. It was a converted Mastr II that the owner recrystaled himself. When confronted with the complaint that the frequency drifted, he was in denial because he said he bought the crystal from ICM! Once the crystal was sent back to ICM with the ICOM and fully compensated for $30, the repeater worked perfectly. Not only was the drifting problem solved, but the audio clarity was profoundly improved. It seems that the ICOM was originally compensated for a factory-made crystal that had different characteristics from the new crystal made by ICM. Since ICM was not given the ICOM in advance, ICM had no way to test or modify the ICOM to work properly with the new crystal. In my book, it makes sense to always get the full compensation of a new crystal to the ICOM or channel element. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]net Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
I use Bomar these days for crystals for the ham bands. I have had good luck installing them myself and re-adjusting them in a year or so back to the right frequency. I recently worked on a GE Delta radio that had been crystaled using CUMEX and found the receive crystal had drifted over 2 kHz in the several years it had been in service. It was so far off it would not adust back to the original frequency until I ran the adjustment slug on down through the coil form and added another slug on top of it. Now with two slugs in the coil, it wound up back on frequency. I don't know if it will continue to drift, or if it has settled down, but for now it is working just fine. I used Marden for crystals until I got into a beef with them on a receive frequency and gave up after sending an operating crystal back to them a couple of times and telling them what frequency it operated on, and them sending it back and telling me what frequency they thought it operated on. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Radio recommendations ?? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:32:48 + On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better radio for repeater service since all solid state transmitters are very inefficient when run below their designed output. A 30 watt Mitrek running at 15 watts will probably last forever, but a 50 watt Mitrek running at 20 watts gets way too hot for my tastes. It would probably be ok with a fan, but I really didn't want a fan for numerous reasons. Well the radio is only specified to run a certain percentage in transmit anyway, but at this point, you can probably get a dump-truck load of Mitreks for the asking. That will give you enough radios to keep the repeater running until Doomsday. All you need is a few channel elements, and you can skip using lightning protection altogether. If a Mitrek falls in the forest, does it make a noise? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc
I just went (actually, AM GOING) through an order with ICM. Boy have they changed in the last 10 years. Orders take much longer than they used to. I went with ICM because this particular order I wanted to be flawless. I should have stuck with Bomar. Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: I use Bomar these days for crystals for the ham bands. I have had good luck installing them myself and re-adjusting them in a year or so back to the right frequency. I recently worked on a GE Delta radio that had been crystaled using CUMEX and found the receive crystal had drifted over 2 kHz in the several years it had been in service. It was so far off it would not adust back to the original frequency until I ran the adjustment slug on down through the coil form and added another slug on top of it. Now with two slugs in the coil, it wound up back on frequency. I don't know if it will continue to drift, or if it has settled down, but for now it is working just fine. I used Marden for crystals until I got into a beef with them on a receive frequency and gave up after sending an operating crystal back to them a couple of times and telling them what frequency it operated on, and them sending it back and telling me what frequency they thought it operated on. 73 - Jim W5ZIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability. Used to use CUMEX in El Paso but they seem to be gone Ralph, W7HSG From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Radio recommendations ?? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:32:48 + On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better radio for repeater service since all solid state transmitters are very inefficient when run below their designed output. A 30 watt Mitrek running at 15 watts will probably last forever, but a 50 watt Mitrek running at 20 watts gets way too hot for my tastes. It would probably be ok with a fan, but I really didn't want a fan for numerous reasons. Well the radio is only specified to run a certain percentage in transmit anyway, but at this point, you can probably get a dump-truck load of Mitreks for the asking. That will give you enough radios to keep the repeater running until Doomsday. All you need is a few channel elements, and you can skip using lightning protection altogether. If a Mitrek falls in the forest, does it make a noise? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals for peaking generator?
Depending on the model of Motorola peaking generator you possess determines the type and freq. of the xtal you can use in it. The later model accomodates 20-32pF xtals from about 4-5 MHz to about 15 MHz, negating the need for the xtal to be 1/2 the output freq. for a 10.7 MHz out. Any use of series resonant xtals will result in the output to be at some higher indirect multiple freq. WA9ZZU George Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody got a surplus 5350 KHz crystal (10.7 MHz out) crystal for a Motorola peaking generator that they'd be willing to part with? I'd also be interested in crystals in the 7700 to 7800 range, to cover roughly 462 - 468. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Rich Garcia wrote: Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Yup. They indicated my crystal was shipped, however I never received. Next time I'm not using USPS Parcel! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Hi Guys, If you ever want crystals again, think about going off-shore, our crystal company, Rakon, located in Auckland, New Zealand produces some of the best crystals around. And they are not that expensive at all. Got a pair a couple of months ago, and cost $29 each (about US$18). They do ship worldwide. They can be found at rakon.co.nz Just an added comment, I have used USPS to ship nearly 90% of items I purchase from the States. In all cases, I have received the parcels in good condition, and quick. I recently ordered a TS-480S, was mailed on a US Wednesday (NZ Thursday), and was at my door on the Monday, 4-5 days depending on how one looks at it. I have used DHL, FedEx and one other company, and the hassles I had to get the parcel, and the cost. NZ mail, which USPS sends it to, lets NZ customs decide, all the others automatically put the extra customs tax on regardless, even if there is an exception. Part of their policy. (Got a little off) Regards, and thanks for reading my 5 cents worth. (2 cents is no longer used in NZ, and soon to be no 5 cents either.) Kevin, ZL1KFM. - Original Message - From: Nick Papadonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Rich Garcia wrote: Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Yup. They indicated my crystal was shipped, however I never received. Next time I'm not using USPS Parcel! Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
I tried http://www.rakon.co.nz but it times out. Am I using the correct URL? - Original Message - From: Kevin Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Hi Guys, If you ever want crystals again, think about going off-shore, our crystal company, Rakon, located in Auckland, New Zealand produces some of the best crystals around. And they are not that expensive at all. Got a pair a couple of months ago, and cost $29 each (about US$18). They do ship worldwide. They can be found at rakon.co.nz Just an added comment, I have used USPS to ship nearly 90% of items I purchase from the States. In all cases, I have received the parcels in good condition, and quick. I recently ordered a TS-480S, was mailed on a US Wednesday (NZ Thursday), and was at my door on the Monday, 4-5 days depending on how one looks at it. I have used DHL, FedEx and one other company, and the hassles I had to get the parcel, and the cost. NZ mail, which USPS sends it to, lets NZ customs decide, all the others automatically put the extra customs tax on regardless, even if there is an exception. Part of their policy. (Got a little off) Regards, and thanks for reading my 5 cents worth. (2 cents is no longer used in NZ, and soon to be no 5 cents either.) Kevin, ZL1KFM. - Original Message - From: Nick Papadonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Rich Garcia wrote: Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Yup. They indicated my crystal was shipped, however I never received. Next time I'm not using USPS Parcel! Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals
Rakon has offices and plants in several countries besides New Zealand. The North American sales office can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Rakon home page is at www.rakon.com 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Ronny Julian wrote: I tried http://www.rakon.co.nz but it times out. Am I using the correct URL? - Original Message - From: Kevin Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Hi Guys, If you ever want crystals again, think about going off-shore, our crystal company, Rakon, located in Auckland, New Zealand produces some of the best crystals around. And they are not that expensive at all. Got a pair a couple of months ago, and cost $29 each (about US$18). They do ship worldwide. They can be found at rakon.co.nz... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals
Link worked for me, so is a valid link. Kevin. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Rakon has offices and plants in several countries besides New Zealand. The North American sales office can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Rakon home page is at www.rakon.com 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Ronny Julian wrote: I tried http://www.rakon.co.nz but it times out. Am I using the correct URL? - Original Message - From: Kevin Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Hi Guys, If you ever want crystals again, think about going off-shore, our crystal company, Rakon, located in Auckland, New Zealand produces some of the best crystals around. And they are not that expensive at all. Got a pair a couple of months ago, and cost $29 each (about US$18). They do ship worldwide. They can be found at rakon.co.nz... Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Years ago, I worked for local county radio shop ... (ok I was the county radio shop for those who remember.) The various fire departments in the county wanted to change to a dispatch frequency so, after getting licensed et al, a couple of the fire departments asked me to assist changing frequencies on all the pagers. I called International and Jan and obtained prices. Then I met with the department chiefs describing Internationl is expensive but the crystals are stable ... vs ... Jan is cheap but you'll pay for it later as the stability is poor to none at all. The two fire departments chose International Crystal. Over the next few years, the crystals purchased from International Crystal - were very frequency stable and seldom needed adjustment. One other much larger fire department chose Jan Crystals and had the city hired radio shop change the crystals ... not involving me. Over the next few years, their pagers were reportedly in the radio shop frequently for readjustment. Hope the above assists you in making your decision. Neil McKie - WA6KLA Paul Guello wrote: I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
I thought Bomar only charged $10.00 per xtal so long as you don't need them right away. I've used Jan for years, this is the first xtal that I have had a problem with. Mathew YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Bomar gave me a couple of bum crystals and then a few that drifted back in the days 2M crystal radios. I used them since they were a few towns away from me in NJ but I quit using them. In the past 5 years I have used West Crystal in Ontario 4 times and they gave me EXCELLENT FAST!!! service. I sent the element in and back came a perfect element for several Mastr II's. Since West is over the border PLEASE follow this suggestion...do not use UPS use the Postal Service it is faster cheaper and you have less hassles. Mark on the form, Amateur Radio Parts for Service and you should have no trouble. I did not do that one time and West Crystal got charged by UPS all sorts of Import and Custom fees. The other 3 times when I used the Post Office we had no problems at all. Rich -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Guello Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:53 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Sorry my error they are not in Ontario but in Kelowna, BC brain spaz there. Either way a fine friendly bunch of people. Rich -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Garcia Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Bomar gave me a couple of bum crystals and then a few that drifted back in the days 2M crystal radios. I used them since they were a few towns away from me in NJ but I quit using them. In the past 5 years I have used West Crystal in Ontario 4 times and they gave me EXCELLENT FAST!!! service. I sent the element in and back came a perfect element for several Mastr II's. Since West is over the border PLEASE follow this suggestion...do not use UPS use the Postal Service it is faster cheaper and you have less hassles. Mark on the form, Amateur Radio Parts for Service and you should have no trouble. I did not do that one time and West Crystal got charged by UPS all sorts of Import and Custom fees. The other 3 times when I used the Post Office we had no problems at all. Rich -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Guello Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:53 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
RichWest Crystal is not in Ontario...it is in British Columbia...some 3,000 miles to the west ! John VE3AMZ Waterloo Ontario. - Original Message - From: Rich Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Jan has been very troublesome in the 25+ years I have been a ham, you hear of a lot of complaints. Bomar gave me a couple of bum crystals and then a few that drifted back in the days 2M crystal radios. I used them since they were a few towns away from me in NJ but I quit using them. In the past 5 years I have used West Crystal in Ontario 4 times and they gave me EXCELLENT FAST!!! service. I sent the element in and back came a perfect element for several Mastr II's. Since West is over the border PLEASE follow this suggestion...do not use UPS use the Postal Service it is faster cheaper and you have less hassles. Mark on the form, Amateur Radio Parts for Service and you should have no trouble. I did not do that one time and West Crystal got charged by UPS all sorts of Import and Custom fees. The other 3 times when I used the Post Office we had no problems at all. Rich -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Guello Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:53 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
http://www.westcrystal.com/index2.html From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:26:14 - Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
International Crystal -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:41:22 PM CDT From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals, TC'ing and stuff
All, I use West Crystal in Canada,take advantage of the currency exchange rate! I inquired (on the phone) to West Crystal about their recrystaling of elements and ICOM's. I ask them if they do Temperature Compensation of the element, and after quite a while the engineer finally admitted they simply install the new crystal and Net it on frequency by changing the parallel capacitor to achieve on frequency in the center of the trimmer action. I'm not saying anyone should not use West Crystal for your needs, just beware that when they try to persuade you to send your element to them for recrystaling, it won't be TC'ed, but it will be on frequency. My point here is that Netting and TC'ing aren't the same thing... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals for uhf mastr II
Thats normal,put 'em in... - Original Message - From: Larry Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals for uhf mastr II : I was wondering about the physical size of the crystals for : a ge mastr II uhf mobile? : I ordered some crystals and when they came in they are the small type. : The same size a : mitrek takes. The crystals that are in the icoms I have are bigger. Was : wondering if I have : the right icoms.. : : : Larry KB8VUM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals for uhf mastr II
From what Sentry told me, many xtal makers no longer make the larger sized shells. Size of the shell is not what makes the crystal work. - Original Message - From: Larry Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals for uhf mastr II I was wondering about the physical size of the crystals for a ge mastr II uhf mobile? I ordered some crystals and when they came in they are the small type. The same size a mitrek takes. The crystals that are in the icoms I have are bigger. Was wondering if I have the right icoms.. Larry KB8VUM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
