Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower

2005-11-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Roger,

My Decibel Products catalog shows that a DB224E-JJ antenna can achieve
nearly omnidirectional coverage when side-mounted on a tower with a DB5001
Side Mount Kit, with all dipoles pointing inward toward the tower.  This
kit positions the antenna mast 18 inches away from the tower.  Other
spacings will probably affect the pattern significantly.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Roger White wrote:

 I am going to put up a Andrews dB224JJ (220 MHz antenna) on our tower
 at TI in Dallas. I have had an antenna on this tower up at 250-270 ft.
 for many years (a 6dB Stationmaster for 145 MHz and a 6dB Stationmaster
 for 224 MHz). Our 2 meter antenna is now a dB224, with the dipoles
 situated around the antenna mast as if for a top of the tower mount
 with an omni pattern. The 220 antena is an anemic 3 dB gain Antenx,
 which is not much better than a wet noodle with some gain.

 I seem to remember somewhere (maybe an old dB Products catalog) where
 for an antenna of the dB224, if you face all four dipoles toward the
 tower, you stand a chance of getting s more omni pattern (at least it
 is suppose to have somewhat equal gain ripple around the tower). The
 tower is 25 ft. wide on each face. The antenna will be offset from one
 leg around 5 to 6 feet at least.

 Does anyone have any experience in mounting this type of antenna in
 this manner?

 Roger W5RD


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower

2005-11-28 Thread Roger White
Ok, many thanks. I do not have the old catalog and remember something about 
the orientation of the dipoles toward the tower. But, I imagine since this 
tower is so wide, it will affect the pattern no matter what, but the site 
has cheap rent :), so beggars can't be choosers!

73,
Roger
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 
ft.) faced tower


 Roger,

 My Decibel Products catalog shows that a DB224E-JJ antenna can achieve
 nearly omnidirectional coverage when side-mounted on a tower with a DB5001
 Side Mount Kit, with all dipoles pointing inward toward the tower.  This
 kit positions the antenna mast 18 inches away from the tower.  Other
 spacings will probably affect the pattern significantly.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 Roger White wrote:

 I am going to put up a Andrews dB224JJ (220 MHz antenna) on our tower
 at TI in Dallas. I have had an antenna on this tower up at 250-270 ft.
 for many years (a 6dB Stationmaster for 145 MHz and a 6dB Stationmaster
 for 224 MHz). Our 2 meter antenna is now a dB224, with the dipoles
 situated around the antenna mast as if for a top of the tower mount
 with an omni pattern. The 220 antena is an anemic 3 dB gain Antenx,
 which is not much better than a wet noodle with some gain.

 I seem to remember somewhere (maybe an old dB Products catalog) where
 for an antenna of the dB224, if you face all four dipoles toward the
 tower, you stand a chance of getting s more omni pattern (at least it
 is suppose to have somewhat equal gain ripple around the tower). The
 tower is 25 ft. wide on each face. The antenna will be offset from one
 leg around 5 to 6 feet at least.

 Does anyone have any experience in mounting this type of antenna in
 this manner?

 Roger W5RD


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower

2005-11-28 Thread Paul Guello
What broadcasters do to get the best pattern on a
large tower is to mount the antenna on the leg coming
straignt off the leg. (perpendicular with the opposite
face)
Paul 

--- Roger White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, many thanks. I do not have the old catalog and
 remember something about 
 the orientation of the dipoles toward the tower.
 But, I imagine since this 
 tower is so wide, it will affect the pattern no
 matter what, but the site 
 has cheap rent :), so beggars can't be choosers!
 
 73,
 Roger
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna
 Orientation on a large (?25 
 ft.) faced tower
 
 
  Roger,
 
  My Decibel Products catalog shows that a DB224E-JJ
 antenna can achieve
  nearly omnidirectional coverage when side-mounted
 on a tower with a DB5001
  Side Mount Kit, with all dipoles pointing inward
 toward the tower.  This
  kit positions the antenna mast 18 inches away from
 the tower.  Other
  spacings will probably affect the pattern
 significantly.
 
  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
  Roger White wrote:
 
  I am going to put up a Andrews dB224JJ (220 MHz
 antenna) on our tower
  at TI in Dallas. I have had an antenna on this
 tower up at 250-270 ft.
  for many years (a 6dB Stationmaster for 145 MHz
 and a 6dB Stationmaster
  for 224 MHz). Our 2 meter antenna is now a dB224,
 with the dipoles
  situated around the antenna mast as if for a top
 of the tower mount
  with an omni pattern. The 220 antena is an anemic
 3 dB gain Antenx,
  which is not much better than a wet noodle with
 some gain.
 
  I seem to remember somewhere (maybe an old dB
 Products catalog) where
  for an antenna of the dB224, if you face all four
 dipoles toward the
  tower, you stand a chance of getting s more omni
 pattern (at least it
  is suppose to have somewhat equal gain ripple
 around the tower). The
  tower is 25 ft. wide on each face. The antenna
 will be offset from one
  leg around 5 to 6 feet at least.
 
  Does anyone have any experience in mounting this
 type of antenna in
  this manner?
 
  Roger W5RD
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower

2005-11-28 Thread Roger White
That is the manner in which our 2 meter dB224 is mounted at present.

Roger
W5RD

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Guello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 
ft.) faced tower


 What broadcasters do to get the best pattern on a
 large tower is to mount the antenna on the leg coming
 straignt off the leg. (perpendicular with the opposite
 face)
 Paul

 --- Roger White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, many thanks. I do not have the old catalog and
 remember something about
 the orientation of the dipoles toward the tower.
 But, I imagine since this
 tower is so wide, it will affect the pattern no
 matter what, but the site
 has cheap rent :), so beggars can't be choosers!

 73,
 Roger
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna
 Orientation on a large (?25
 ft.) faced tower


  Roger,
 
  My Decibel Products catalog shows that a DB224E-JJ
 antenna can achieve
  nearly omnidirectional coverage when side-mounted
 on a tower with a DB5001
  Side Mount Kit, with all dipoles pointing inward
 toward the tower.  This
  kit positions the antenna mast 18 inches away from
 the tower.  Other
  spacings will probably affect the pattern
 significantly.
 
  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
  Roger White wrote:
 
  I am going to put up a Andrews dB224JJ (220 MHz
 antenna) on our tower
  at TI in Dallas. I have had an antenna on this
 tower up at 250-270 ft.
  for many years (a 6dB Stationmaster for 145 MHz
 and a 6dB Stationmaster
  for 224 MHz). Our 2 meter antenna is now a dB224,
 with the dipoles
  situated around the antenna mast as if for a top
 of the tower mount
  with an omni pattern. The 220 antena is an anemic
 3 dB gain Antenx,
  which is not much better than a wet noodle with
 some gain.
 
  I seem to remember somewhere (maybe an old dB
 Products catalog) where
  for an antenna of the dB224, if you face all four
 dipoles toward the
  tower, you stand a chance of getting s more omni
 pattern (at least it
  is suppose to have somewhat equal gain ripple
 around the tower). The
  tower is 25 ft. wide on each face. The antenna
 will be offset from one
  leg around 5 to 6 feet at least.
 
  Does anyone have any experience in mounting this
 type of antenna in
  this manner?
 
  Roger W5RD
 
 
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