Re: ICSD database updated to 76,480 inorganic structures

2004-04-01 Thread Alan Hewat
At 21:10 31/03/2004, Armel Le Bail wrote:

...who are the cows producing the milk ? You and me...

Armel, you can't be a cow and also consume butter  milkmaids !

The AMCSD... target is a global database of all minerals, 
and maybe more, the funds come from the NSF...
IUCr journals propose now the possibility to place your 
papers in open access, the cost is 800 US$ ...expensive.

IUCr, like the American Mineralogists, have to get money 
from somewhere to continue publishing. Is that really a better 
solution ? Even you and I are paid salaries (unlike cows). 

IUCr have done a great job in putting ALL Acta papers on-line.
They have also declined your proposal that they contribute 
data to COD and recommend that people support existing 
databases instead. So how about helping raise money from 
the French equivalent of NSF for that purpose ?

Alan.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE  [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax (33) 4.76.20.76.48
(33) 4.76.20.72.13 (.26 Mme Guillermet) http://www.ill.fr/dif/AlanHewat.htm 
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ICSD database updated to 76,480 inorganic structures

2004-03-31 Thread Alan Hewat

The ICSD-WWW database on http://icsdweb.fiz-karlsruhe.de/ or http://icsd.ill.fr/ has 
been updated to 76,480 inorganic structures for licensed users, with now over 6000 new 
entries being added each year. Unlicensed users have full-feature access to a demo 
3000+ structure database.

Notes and examples of how to produce photo-realistic crystal structure drawings from 
ICSD generated VRML files using textures or POV-Ray ray-tracing have been added on 
http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/help/VRML-help.html

Note that there are various ways of obtaining full access to ICSD-WWW, ranging from 
becoming a registered user of  http://icsdweb.fiz-karlsruhe.de/ to a licence to 
operate your own ICSD-WWW server. See the above WWW-site for details. Armel will be 
pleased to know that the PHP-MySQL server software is available as open source (but 
copyright) code from http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/install/

Alan.
Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE  [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax (33) 4.76.20.76.48
(33) 4.76.20.72.13 (.26 Mme Guillermet) http://www.ill.fr/dif/AlanHewat.htm 
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Re: ICSD database updated to 76,480 inorganic structures

2004-03-31 Thread Armel Le Bail

Armel will be pleased to know that the PHP-MySQL server software is 
available as open source (but copyright) code from 
http://icsd.ill.fr/icsd/install/
Not enough Alan, I want not only the butter but also the
money for the butter. The complete stuff fully open.
500 more CIFs in COD that week, coming from the AMCSD (the
American Mineralogy Crystal Structure Database has now more
than 5000 fully open entries, and the COD has  12000).
   AMCSD : http://www.geo.arizona.edu/AMS/amcsd.php
   COD  : http://www.crystallography.net/
Armel



Re: ICSD database updated to 76,480 inorganic structures

2004-03-31 Thread Alan Hewat
At 15:56 31/03/2004, Armel Le Bail wrote:

Not enough Alan, I want not only the butter but also the
money for the butter. 

And the milkmaid as well I suppose Armel ? 

ICSD also contains papers from the American Mineralogist, and even provides direct 
links to the original paper in electronic form where that is available. (Bob Downs is 
working on making more back issues available on-line).

Alan.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE  [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax (33) 4.76.20.76.48
(33) 4.76.20.72.13 (.26 Mme Guillermet) http://www.ill.fr/dif/AlanHewat.htm 
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